Do other parents really complain?

[okeydokey]

I would almost bet my last dime that the complainer is the mother of the girl that didn't make the squad.

Again, its a uniform for the squad and there is nothing wrong with wearing it.

As long as the dress code is the same for everyone in the school, I see no problem. Not just for cheerleaders.

 

[Granny square]

I would almost bet my last dime that the complainer is the mother of the girl that didn't make the squad.

Again, its a uniform for the squad and there is nothing wrong with wearing it.

See that is the problem. Lol, the sort of mom that says "others are mean because they are jealous." If you don't like Greek clubs, you must not have been asked, etc.

I have boys that were/are homeschooled. I believe however that if you are a part of the school you choose to follow the rules. Rules say limited skin (and I agree boys are going to be interested regardless) then the rule stands for all. It is a reasonable expectation.

Our highschool had no dress code, '81 and has a code now. But I also went to a college with rampant underage drinking, and girls going in and out the house windows now we'd suspend them or put them on probation.

 

[mamacatnv]

Honey, I'll bet it was the mother of a kid who wouldn't be caught dead being a cheerleader.

Oh I doubt that. These sorts of things come from folks (parents and students) who are bitter. Bitter generally comes from disappointment, ie. not making the cheer squad

 

[jrmasm]

Oh I doubt that. These sorts of things come from folks (parents and students) who are bitter. Bitter generally comes from disappointment, ie. not making the cheer squad

Or it could be the parent was bitter after getting called to come to the school and bring dress code approved clothing for their child.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

Or it could be the parent was bitter after getting called to come to the school and bring dress code approved clothing for their child.

If I had to bring clothes for my daughter because she didn't fit the dress code, I'd be angry with her and annoyed that I didn't notice before I left the house. I wouldn't blame a cheerleader for my daughter not fitting the dress code. Likewise, I wouldn't complain to the school if my daughter failed a test that the cheerleaders and football players didn't take until the following Monday because they were on a bus to a game. I'm of the belief that my daughter is responsible for herself and doesn't need to worry about what other people are doing.

 

[mamacatnv]

Here's the problem. It's pretty simple.

I'm a parent. I would prefer that there was no dress code beyond safety issues, like no dangling chains. I think there is a huge amount of sexism around dress codes, but that's another debate entirely.

But, if the school has a consistent dress code, I am willing to do battle with my teenaged daughters to enforce it. The school's reasons for the dress code are that school is their place of business and the kids should be sufficiently covered up so as not to be distracting. I have used the stated reasons with my kids repeatedly.

When the school administration says that is peachy for one particular group of girls to wear cheerleading uniforms that are far more revealing than the dress code allows, that absolutely guts the argument that they have asked me to make to my kid. That's gaslighting.

This is where I don't agree. I too have a teenage daughter and we have discussed dress code. If my DD tried to argue "but the cheerleaders get to do it" my automatic response would be, "then try out to be a cheerleader" my response would not be to call the school and make a stink. My back up response would be something along the lines of what the cheerleaders get to wear on game day has nothing to do with the dress code for the general population.

Again, I am not a fan of all things equal. I have no issue with cheerleaders who earned that uniform getting to wear it to school.

Oh and just for the record, I have never seen a high school with bare midriff's for their cheerleaders. College, yes, high school, no, not that I have seen.
Doesn't mean they don't exist, I have just not seen them

 

[Granny square]

Again, I am not a fan of all things equal. I have no issue with cheerleaders who earned that uniform getting to wear it to school.

Lol, same for the swimmers and wrestlers?

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

Lol, same for the swimmers and wrestlers?

I'm not the poster you quoted, but I will answer for me. Personally, if they want to wear their swimming suit or leotard on days when they have a meet, I don't really have a problem with it. I think that they will be cold and I would hate dealing with a bathing suit when I needed to go to the bathroom, but I feel like they have earned certain privileges and one of those is wearing a uniform on game or meet days.

It also might be pertinent to point out that a cheerleading uniform does cover more than the uniform for swimmers or wrestlers.

 

[mamacatnv]

Or it could be the parent was bitter after getting called to come to the school and bring dress code approved clothing for their child.

I would not be bitter at the school I would be ticked off with my kid who tried to get away with a dress code violation and I would not likely be taking appropriate clothing. I would let my kid deal with the consequences of their intentional disregard for THEIR appropriate dress and no way would I even entertain the argument "the cheerleaders get to do it" that IMO is just silly

 

[mamacatnv]

Lol, same for the swimmers and wrestlers?

I see the LOL and while I understand your point, I think a bit of common sense needs to come into play too, thus the reason I don't think that all things all the time are equal

 

[Granny square]

I'm not the poster you quoted, but I will answer for me. Personally, if they want to wear their swimming suit or leotard on days when they have a meet, I don't really have a problem with it. I think that they will be cold and I would hate dealing with a bathing suit when I needed to go to the bathroom, but I feel like they have earned certain privileges and one of those is wearing a uniform on game or meet days.

It also might be pertinent to point out that a cheerleading uniform does cover more than the uniform for swimmers or wrestlers.

It is a matter of degree. That is sort of the original premise. Someone complained either out of bitterness or principle because the uniform standard is stretched for some not all. When it comes to liberties like that I think there is a point to it.

That doesn't make me jealous or a helicopter with a rejected daughter. I just agree with the standard. There isn't any reason the chreer squad can't come up with something appropriate. Hell our college squad has cold weather uniforms.

I would not let one of my kids pull a stink over it though. They've learned in the work world that all is not fair.

 

[Janepod]

See that is the problem. Lol, the sort of mom that says "others are mean because they are jealous." If you don't like Greek clubs, you must not have been asked, etc.

"She's just jealous" is the most frustrating thing someone can say in a discussion or argument. You can't respond to it without sounding defensive. It's such a petty, demeaning argument. Very childish.

But cheerleader envy "must be a regional thing," as they love to say on the Dis. My friends who have girls all tell their daughters that they can join cheerleading when *boys* start cheering for the *girls'* teams.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

It is a matter of degree. That is sort of the original premise. Someone complained either out of bitterness or principle because the uniform standard is stretched for some not all. When it comes to liberties like that I think there is a point to it.

That doesn't make me jealous or a helicopter with a rejected daughter. I just agree with the standard. There isn't any reason the chreer squad can't come up with something appropriate. Hell our college squad has cold weather uniforms.

I would not let one of my kids pull a stink over it though. They've learned in the work world that all is not fair.

My problem is, if you saw my post back on the first or second page, we selected uniforms that would fit the dress code and someone STILL complained stating that we were violating UIL (the group in charge of athletics in Texas) because wearing the uniforms at school was a form of the school paying the cheerleaders by providing us clothing.

I think people will find a reason to complain about just about anything.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

Why does everything our kids do have to be equal?

I am really seeing a cheerleader resentment in this thread. If it is that prevalent here, I am seeing this whole uproar in a different light. Lots of resentment and stereo typing towards cheerleaders. Its not about dress code, not about uniforms but about Cheerleaders in general. Interesting

There has always been a group that resents cheerleaders.

My daughter had voluntary practice for her girls once a week all summer long. Most of the team showed up. They will put in countkess hours of practice during foitball and basketball season. They wilk fundraise. And they will participate in numerous school functions. They will also do a breast cancer walk and other charitable events. They work hard and deserve some recognition.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

Somehow, I suspect that the uni for those two activities comports with the dress code, the track and basketball teams

Everything in school is an issue to the Rah-rahs . . .

My daughter was a cheerleader in high school and her coach would not tolerate that attitude. Now my daughter is a coach, and she tells her girls to check their attitude at the door.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

Obviously the ones that want to make a stink about such stuff are.

Its not about being special because one is cheerleader or a football player or on the chess team or a choir member. Its about being proud of what they do and the school they attend. Its about being an active member of their student body. And its about everyone needing to relax a little and quit being so uptight about everything.

Cheerleaders have been wearing these "oh so horrible" uniforms since the beginning to time. Why is it such an issue NOW? Sounds to me like the "special snowflake" isn't the cheerleader.

Bingo.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

Huh? Who said anything about purchasing another set of ANYTHING? Don't these girls have pants/skirts/shorts they wear on non-game days?

Funny, all the football pants I've seen over the years have had belts with them (along with ties). The pads don't keep the pants on.

If the shorts don't follow dress code, the school has the right to say they can't be worn.
So cheerleaders/athletes should be treated different because of their roles? Can we give them all A's in classes since they've made the teams? They shouldn't have to do homework because of all the practices, right?

Again speaking as a former teenage boy, I *LOVED* seeing the girls in the cheerleading skirts. But I don't think it's right to tell non-cheerleaders "that skirt is too short" but if you're a cheerleader, it's OK. It's either too short or its not.

My daughter's school emphasizes academic performance and rewards athletes who achieve academically. My daughter discovered tgat she was given more responsibility on the team when her grades improved.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

"She's just jealous" is the most frustrating thing someone can say in a discussion or argument. You can't respond to it without sounding defensive. It's such a petty, demeaning argument. Very childish.

But cheerleader envy "must be a regional thing," as they love to say on the Dis. My friends who have girls all tell their daughters that they can join cheerleading when *boys* start cheering for the *girls'* teams.

Interesting. We were a co-ed squad. We cheered at football, volleyball, and both men's and women's basketball. I guess that your friends would be willing to let them try out if they went to my high school.

By the way, we were also required to be at a certain number of games for the sports at which we did not cheer (tennis, softball, baseball, etc.).

 

[jrmasm]

If I had to bring clothes for my daughter because she didn't fit the dress code, I'd be angry with her and annoyed that I didn't notice before I left the house. I wouldn't blame a cheerleader for my daughter not fitting the dress code. Likewise, I wouldn't complain to the school if my daughter failed a test that the cheerleaders and football players didn't take until the following Monday because they were on a bus to a game. I'm of the belief that my daughter is responsible for herself and doesn't need to worry about what other people are doing.

I actually follow the same line of thinking with my children. Not everyone else does. I just find the idea that IT HAS TO BE a parent of a cheerleader wannabe that complained silly. There are lots of other possibilities.

 

[Janepod]

Interesting. We were a co-ed squad. We cheered at football, volleyball, and both men's and women's basketball. I guess that your friends would be willing to let them try out if they went to my high school.

By the way, we were also required to be at a certain number of games for the sports at which we did not cheer (tennis, softball, baseball, etc.).

That *is* interesting. I've never seen co-ed high school cheerleading (except in "Bring It On.") But it has just never been a popular activity where I've lived. At my high school, cheerleading was eliminated because there wasn't enough interest. Fencing? sure. Varsity, JV and Freshman ice hockey teams? You bet (and my school had two rinks.) Cheerleading? no interest whatsoever.