Disney's "anti-Moore" Film

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From the San Francisco Chronicle 6/30/04:
Sacramento -- In an irony even Mickey Mouse would find hard to miss, America is about to weigh two wildly contrasting versions of itself in theaters this weekend as the Walt Disney Co. debuts its own foray into documentary filmmaking right alongside Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" -- which the studio refused to release.

Disney officials insist their 88-minute film, "America's Heart and Soul" -- stitching simple, positive vignettes of everyday Americans with sweeping vistas and up-tempo music -- is neither a response to Moore's politically charged hit nor any type of political statement itself.

But the studio invited the Sacramento-based conservative group Move America Forward to a screening this week a block from the Capitol, allowing its members to make the comparison to Moore's film that the studio has refused to make. The political group's invitation to its members praised the movie's virtues, "unlike the negative and misleading story line of Michael Moore's 'Fahrenheit 9/11.' "

"We want everybody to see our movie," said Dennis Rice, head of publicity for Walt Disney Studios. "By definition, it has to be seen as a nonpartisan approach. We are not teamed up with anyone, let alone Move America Forward. We just want our movie to be seen in its purest form."

More diorama than documentary, the film, to be released nationwide Friday, introduces audiences to a varied collection of Americans -- from a Vermont dairy farmer to a Colorado cowpoke to the Rev. Cecil Williams, leader of San Francisco's Glide Memorial United Methodist Church.

"I'm encouraging people to see it, but it would be a different thing if the movie is under attack," said Melanie Morgan, a KSFO-AM talk show host and vice president of the group, which formed to publicize progress in the war against terrorism it feels is underplayed in the mainstream media. "But if I perceive a direct frontal launch on it, then we'll definitely fight back."

Already, the attack is forming. Responding to Monday's Sacramento screening, Moore posted a statement on his Web site accusing Disney of "joining forces with the right-wing kooks who have come together to attempt to censor 'Fahrenheit 9/11.' "

The film also has been shown to selected audiences with other political bents, such as the Sierra Club, and more apolitical groups, such as the Future Farmers of America, Rice said. Others noted that the marketing technique is similar to that used frequently by independent filmmakers who first look to win over a niche audience -- and recently employed by director Mel Gibson in the walk-up to the release of his controversial "The Passion of the Christ."

"It's a great strategy, and it works," said Pat Forerro, a documentary filmmaker and cinema professor at San Francisco State University. "You go to those specialized audiences and let them do the publicity."

Though Disney states the contrary about its film, "I would argue it's incredibly political," Forerro said. "I don't believe that documentaries are truthful. Their goal is not to tell the truth. Their goal is to make you think. "

Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" was released through Lions Gate Entertainment last weekend after Disney helped ignite controversy around the film by refusing to release it. The film, which took the top prize at this year's Cannes Film Festival, grossed $23.9 million in its debut weekend to become the nation's most popular film and is playing on hundreds of screens nationwide.

In contrast to its scathing critique of Bush foreign policy, the messages in "America's Heart and Soul" -- which will begin playing on 100 screens Friday -- are more thematic, general and affirming. Besides their espoused patriotism, Puritan work ethic and shared can-do-it-ness, Disney's mini- profile subjects give voice to no particular political philosophy. Message detection may prove a more nuanced, subjective exercise -- a bit like deconstructing "Up With People" or a Super Bowl halftime show.

"You get a horse to trust you, and you have a wonderful thing," says Roudy Roudebush, an on-the-wagon cowboy who a few minutes into the film rides his steed into a Telluride, Colo., saloon for a deep drink of water. He soon adds: "We've experienced being free ... because there aren't many people, and there isn't much government. And so it's hard to have your freedoms even infringed a little bit. Cherish your freedom."

A young New York opera singer, Ben Cohen of "Ben & Jerry's," and blind mountain climber Erik Weihenmayer follow suit, offering thoughts on entrepreneurialism, achieving goals and caring for family. George Woodard, prone to pick a little banjo when not milking cows with his young son in Waterbury Center, Vt., opines: "There's nothing more important than watching a child grow up."

"If those are Republican values," said KSFO's Morgan, who saw the film Monday, "then I'm glad to be a Republican."

But as Americans prepare for an election-year Independence Day weekend when some theaters will offer two takes on reality, some say Disney will unwittingly join with Moore to play into a political polarization they see advancing in America.

"America's Heart and Soul" is "like Disneyland, being the antiseptic, squeaky-clean version -- no disturbing thoughts allowed," said Howard Suber, a professor at the UCLA School of Theater, Film & Television who specializes in producing and marketing. "I take it for granted that the same people who went to see 'Fahrenheit 9/11' are not going to rush out and see 'America's Heart and Soul.' "

While he doubts the Disney movie will be much of a hit, author and Pulitzer Prize-winner Dale Maharidge, who conducted hundreds of interviews with average citizens nationwide for his new, pulse-taking book "Homeland," said Tuesday that Disney's movie may prove "fiscally brilliant. Michael Moore's work is mirror," he said, "and people don't like to look in the mirror. "

As for the movie's softer take on average citizens, "there is some of that Norman Rockwell America," he said, "but to focus on it at the exclusion of everything else, you're deluding yourself, and you're not doing a service to society. Why not talk to a Wal-Mart worker who loves America and yet works for $7 an hour and wants health care?"

In Sacramento on Monday, no one at the Move America Forward screening of "America's Heart and Soul" saw the two films as juxtaposed, even though some had opinions on Moore's work.

"I didn't see it as being an answer to 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' " said Paul Johnson, 26. "I thought it was cool to see average Americans you don't normally see."

Ronni Diel, who came from Nevada City to attend the screening with her husband, Larry, agreed.

"I don't think they compare at all," she said of the two films. "This is positive, and Michael Moore tears everything up."
 
***"Already, the attack is forming. Responding to Monday's Sacramento screening, Moore posted a statement on his Web site accusing Disney of "joining forces with the right-wing kooks who have come together to attempt to censor 'Fahrenheit 9/11.' " ***

Well, Disney gave MM's movie a huge boost by refusing to distribute it, I guess MM is just returning the favor.

I'm glad Disney is doing this movie.
 
I think it's funny that Moore's camp is making such a big deal about WHEN Disney released "America's Heart and Soul." Moore was quoted in an interview as saying how "convenient" it was that Heart and Soul was coming out NOW. And I'm thinking ... dude, it's the 4th of July -- isn't that when you SHOULD release a patriotic movie crammed with Americana???


:earsboy:
 
Moore's just trying to keep himself relevant. America's Heart and Soul started production in 1999, and the nationwide release date was planned to coincide with the 4th of July -- it has, from what I can tell, NOTHING to do with him.

From the reviews I've read, the film comes off kind of like an old Circlevision movie; soothing and pretty, but not very deep.
 

Actually, it's a lovely film. I saw a screening about a month ago. There are some shallow stories and then there are some incredibly moving moments with a lot of depth. It's a "medley", if you will, of stories, with a lot more humor than I'd expected.

I was a little disappointed with the final scene, but the rest of the movie was totally enjoyable, and a nice change of pace from the summer action / wizardry line up!

:earsboy:
 
Moore's just trying to keep himself relevant. America's Heart and Soul started production in 1999, and the nationwide release date was planned to coincide with the 4th of July -- it has, from what I can tell, NOTHING to do with him.

Correct. This really is a non-story story. MM is a very shrewd and adept self promoter. Plus I agree he is probably returning the favor to Disney by giving their film a little boost (maybe MM & ME had this prearranged :crazy: )

From the reviews I've read, the film comes off kind of like an old Circlevision movie; soothing and pretty, but not very deep.

I haven't seen it. The review in todays NJ Star Ledger is fairly biting:
"An aggressively upbeat national panorama -- think Up With People! without the music, or an Imax attraction without the Imax screen -- "America's Heart & Soul" leapfrogs across the country for short, supposedly inspiring slices of life."

carl
barrel of :tongue:
 
Oh...also mentioned in the NJ Star Ledger review:

"The film contains some sexy salsa dancing."

Hey now....:earseek:
 
I am glad Disney chose to release this film. I have seen a preview of it, and to me it looks like a nice film focusing on positive aspects of Americans. I think Disney made the right decision in not distributing MM's film. I think it's a crime that the film is called a 'documentary' when so much of it is false and spun so hugely out of control. Unfortunately, people will watch this and think it's all fact. Despite Disney's being pretty liberal, I am glad to see they could draw the line.
 
I havent seen this film but it goes in line with old Disney. Walt Disney was very patriotic and very much a down home kind of person according to his biographies. I am glad to see that the Disney Co. is willing to put something like this out there.

And as a fan and a shareholder, I am proud they didnt get any further involved with MMs "trash." Free speech is fine. But at a time when our country has people fighting and dying to uphold its values, propoganda like this has no place in the world. Not only are we wrecking the minds of our own young people, but also influencing those of other nations who may otherwise have thought better of the USA.

I say that if people like MM dont like it here, I dont have the authority to make you move to another country, but I extend a hearty invitation. You are welcome to leave.
 
Free speech is fine. But at a time when our country has people fighting and dying to uphold its values, propoganda like this has no place in the world.

"But" has no place in a discussion of free speech. As soon as you start adding 'but' you begin curtailing free speech.

Moreover, 'propoganda' like this is essential to a free society:

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be
exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at
all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the
atmosphere." - Thomas Jefferson

Frankly, I don't really understand why Disney declined to distribute this film. Based on the last Presidential election and the most recent polls it would seem that such a film would have an equal chance of offending someone or not.

carl
barrel of laughs
 
I totally agree with las3888 and jimmytammy!!

I am glad to finally see the Disney Co. make a stand here. I have been very disappointed with some things the co. has allowed on ABC lately.

As far as the "so-called"documentary, of MM's, you might as well start reading the tabloids found at the grocery stands to get your news.

As a granddaughter of a former WWII POW, people like MM infuriate me.
And as jimmytammy stated earlier, no one is making him live here, by all means, go live in some other country, try bashing that government with lies, and then we'll see where he ends up.
What ever happened to having respect for your country and government. Sure we don't all have to agree, but we certainly don't need to make our country look as bad as possible, especially during this time of war on terrorism.

That's my opinion.
 
jimmytammy mentioned Walt's patriotism I would have to agree...I'll quote him.."Tomorrow will be better. For as long as America keeps alive the ideals of freedom and a better life, all men will want to be free and share our way of life. I thank God and America for the right to live and raise my family under the flag of tolerance, democracy, and freedom." --Walt Disney
 
I agree with grim ghosts' quote of Walt completely...It's just too bad that so many people here on the DIS can't live by those words. Moore is living proof as to how great America is and I am happy to have him speaking on behalf of the MAJORITY of Americans who are now beginning to see through the political haze of the repressive, totalitarian and totally greedy bush administration. How many soldiers must die or be maimed in this war without merit? Why did we attack Iraq and not Saudi Arabia - the real enemy?

Thank God Kerry and Edwards will be taking over soon to, hopefully, right a sinking ship (which is the American way of life). But if you want to continue to believe in WMD, a Saddam-Osama relationship, huge deficits, the fact that huge Haliburton profits were just happenstance and that starting a war is ever OK, then go ahead and delude yourself, for nothing short of total repression will ever convince you...And that is very tragic.

pirate:
 
Peter, Peter, Peter!!!


Why did we attack Iraq and not Saudi Arabia - the real enemy?
Are you advocating a war with Saudi Arabia? Is that what I am to understand?

I wonder what that Moore character would say to that!!??

Thank God Kerry and Edwards will be taking over soon
When they do can we count on them starting a war with the Saudis?
 
Peter, Baron -

The subject is Disney's film America's Heart & Soul, not Iraq, Saudi Arabia, the Federated States of Micronesia or any other country. Kindly keep to the subject or some close proximity.

Many Thanks,

Sarangel
 
Sorry Sara,

I always avoided the debate board. But that OUTRAGEOUS statement just got to me! I kind of thought Peter was trolling, in good fun, playing sort of!! I mean I know he hasn't got a clue about Disney, but politics too!!! My goodness! How can one man be soooooooooo wrong!!! :crazy:

Anyway. Sorry once more. It won't happen again.


;) Besides! I thought it was late enough for you not to notice until morning!! ;)
 
I actually agree with Peter about something and further it puts me at odds with Baron!

Is is cold down below?????
 
HBK...Strange days indeed.

Baron, I don't advocate war with the Arabs but It it isn't hard to see that if we have an enemy worth fearing it wasn't the crumbling Heussein regime but rather the Saudis. Just like the DIS you just can't put the pieces together, eh?...:wave:

Ooops, sorry Sara...It is totally proper (and smart) that Disney release this film although I still see nothing wrong with reaping the harvest over 9/11 too. It seems Disney, through one of their arms should be able to release anything popular and profitable...No Baron, porn is never going to be that mainstream...
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Well I disagree with both of you guys. (Not you, Baron - the other two.)

It was once remarked that many Americans take our freedom for granted today.

Gutless tree hugging cowards like Moore should be drop shipped to Iran or North Korea. Maybe then he'll learn to respect the price for his right to free speech . What a waste of a human being.

Sorry to venture off topic.

I'm glad Disney is putting out this film. Has anyone seen it?
 
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