Disneyland is going to the dogs!!!!

[DevilDuckie]

The "person with the dog and the doggy stroller" could also have had a service dog. Many more debilitating diseases and syndromes are getting animals to help them.

People, who on the outside may not look look like they have any diseases, can have diseases on the inside.

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Thank you! I "look just fine" but am researching a service dog for an invisible condition. Just because a stranger can't see how the dog is serving doesn't mean it isn't.

 

[disney-super-mom]

I have no problems with dogs at DLR. Of course our family loves animals, so it's just fun to see dogs there. My only problem with seeing dogs at DLR......

......now my kids want to bring OUR dog to DLR!

Um, our dog going on vacation with us? No. When we go on vacation to DL, Sassy (our dog) goes on a weeks vacation to the puppy resort/spa to be puppy-pampered. That's her vacation, and that's the way she likes it!!!

 

[tink2dw]

Our normal everyday rescued cat, no special training, alerts me when my blood sugars are high.

 

[KPeveler]

LOL I wonder if someone was crazy enough to put a dog on Indiana Jones All that jerking and movement of the car.

I think that is one of the rides you cannot have a Service dog on

 

[TripHHH]

Dogs on the rides? Hmmm... Okay, It's a Small World, the Train, Winnie the Pooh, Monorail...even Nemo (if they can stand the wait)....but anything with a drop or very fast speed or spinning just doesn't seem right. Dogs, even very smart ones, are going to be frightened. They don't understand it's coming and that it's just a ride. Now I know that most of those dogs are very well-trained and won't try to jump ship....but still it just seems like that is taking advantage of the dog. It would be nice if they could stay off the ride with a CM while their owner rides those rides. There's not that many service dogs that it wouldn't be plausible. Just a thought.

 

[KPeveler]

This is from the DL guide for disabilities:

Due to the nature of the experience, service animals are not permitted on the following attractions:
Disneyland® Park:
• Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
• Gadget’s Go Coaster
• Goofy’s Playhouse
• Indiana Jones™ Adventure
• Matterhorn Bobsleds
• Space Mountain
• Splash Mountain
• Star Tours
Disney’s California Adventure® Park:
• California Screamin’
• Grizzly River Run
• Jumpin’ Jellyfish
• Maliboomer
• Mulholland Madness
• Orange Stinger
• Soarin’ Over California
• The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™
• Tuck and Roll’s Drive ‘Em Buggies

So no, they cannot go on things with drops or spinning... but a drop like pirates is very small, no more upsetting than someone driving down a steep hill.

these dogs are trained is just what to do in all situations. CMs are not allowed to handle service animals. thy are not even allowed to help a person out of a wheelchair. so the service dog would haev to go with the person. also, you CANNOT separate some people from their dogs... some warn a perso of an oncoming seizure, so they must be with them.

if you have questions about service dogs, why dont you go ask in the disabilities forum... there are a lot of people there who use the dogs.

most people with service dogs cannot be separated at all, so they accompany the person right on to the rides

 

[iceskatejen]

One of my best friends has service dogs (one is in training, one fully trained but getting a bit on the older side) and those dogs love going to DL and riding the rides (especialy the older one and POTC). She has major allergies to cigarette smoke and some perfumes and the dogs alert her when there's cigarette smoke or one of the perfumes so that she can avoid them (she used to have no sense of smell but a diet change has made it come back, but the dogs, having a much stronger sense of smell still do better than she would herself in keeping her away from that stuff). They go to DL all the time. The CMs can't stand there and hold the dogs when she goes on the rides, so unless it's a ride the dogs can go on or she's with someone else, she has to skip some rides.

Also, the dogs are trained to hold it (you know what I mean) pretty well, but (and I have read the service dog guide) they are allowed to use any open area (i.e. those fenced grassy areas) to relieve themselves and the service dog owner should contact a CM to arrange for proper disposal (IOW, don't just pick it up and put it in any old trash can).

 

[scanmom]

The "person with the dog and the doggy stroller" could also have had a service dog. Many more debilitating diseases and syndromes are getting animals to help them.

People, who on the outside may not look look like they have any diseases, can have diseases on the inside.

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Thank you! I "look just fine" but am researching a service dog for an invisible condition. Just because a stranger can't see how the dog is serving doesn't mean it isn't.

I think if the dog was a service dog, it would not have been in a stroller!!! The owner was navigating the stroller through a very crowded area (outside HMH), and had complete control of the stroller. If the person was disabled, the dog would have been helping the person, not the other way around. I am glad that service dogs are allowed in DL, although I would not want to be on a ride with one.. but this dog was very obviously NOT a service dog! And I am glad that DL has security dogs, I was just surprised, since I had never seen one before... at DLR or WDW.

 

[fairycat]

I learned to never judge and relay on those in the know to make the call. I can pretty much gurantee that no "pet" dog would get into DL though any more then many pets would go into most restaurants.

I had a dear friend many years ago who some called Barbie. She was slim 6 ft tall, blond and very attractive, she once pulled into and parked in a handicap parking spot and as she got out of her car was screamed at and almost assaulted by a man for this. That is until she pulled down her shirt and showed just a small part of the scar she had on her chest (note she also had a handicap sign on her car but they obviously didn't think it was hers) . She had her first open heart surgery at 17, and at this point in her life had about six more (to the point they were running out of skin to cut the scar tissue was so bad). She looked healthy but could only walk short distances her heart was so damaged, though she looked amazing.

After dealing with her I learned you never know what lurks under someone's skin. The dog in a stroller could have been a seizure or other type of dog that does not need to lead some one around but needs to be in the proximity of the owner to help them. They also might have found it easier to stroller the dogs than to block traffic with them.

Trainers are not experts so sometimes they do things wrong like block traffic and some trainers let kids pet the dogs, since though not allopwed it does happen and when you are trainning some styles want you to have the dogs touched a lot so they get use to people and then when properly trained they can change that, it depends on the style of training.

I do love that they ride, ride as I hardly see these dogs, I hope they have fun!

 

[BellePrincessBelle]

Color me stupid but I've never seen a service dog with out a sign/ shirt on stating that it was a service dog on duty please do not pet(my cousin has a service dog) so I highly doubt the dog in the stoller was a service dog. It belonged to another person who believes that they're more important then everyone else and to hell with the rules because they surely don't apply to me. My kids are allergic and while I understand service dogs needing to be everywhere it ticks me off when someone puts my kids at risk for their own self gratification because they want their precious little fifi with them.

 

[KPeveler]

i am quite certain that DL would not allow a dog in a stroller into the parks... i even have to open the baggie i keep my feminine supplies in to get into the park. i would find it hard to believe that they missed a dog!

actually, many small service dogs, such as seizure or BP-monitor dogs, do not weat vests or signs, because they are too small. most companies do not sell vests for chiuauahs (sp), and i know of someone here on the boards who has just such a dog. she had a hard time finding a vest for her.

as to using a stroller for a service dog - a yorkie (and i have seen trained yorkies) cannot walk the 6+ miles a day a human can (and an adult with epilepsy can walk that much and still need the dog), and definitely cannot do the 10+ miles a day a power wheelchair can do (and you tend to walk 6+ miles a day in WDW - not sure about DL). therefore, a doggie stroller would allow that person to enjoy the park for a longer time, without putting any strain on their animal. and a person with epilepsy, except for when a seizure may occur, would have full control of the stroller

people on this board with bigger service dogs, like labs, will tell you that once their service dog is tired, they have to take a break or go back to the hotel. if the pavement is too hot, then their time is cut even shorter, cause dogs do not have shoes to protect their paws.

i would think that the dog in the stroller would not have gotten past security if it was not a service dog, but the owner could have lied about it... and they cannot question the need for a service dog, any more than they could question the need for a wheelchair.

when it comes to mobility and other service devices for the disabled and chronically ill, i have learned it is best to try not to guess what people really "need." after all, you cannot see all problems, and everything is relative.

 

[DevilDuckie]

I think if the dog was a service dog, it would not have been in a stroller!!! The owner was navigating the stroller through a very crowded area (outside HMH), and had complete control of the stroller. If the person was disabled, the dog would have been helping the person, not the other way around. I am glad that service dogs are allowed in DL, although I would not want to be on a ride with one.. but this dog was very obviously NOT a service dog! And I am glad that DL has security dogs, I was just surprised, since I had never seen one before... at DLR or WDW.

You are probably wrong. Small service animals are often carried- a stroller is not an unthinkable method of doing that. The problem is that you are taking an *extremely* limited view of what "disabled" means and the myriad ways a service animal can assist with the disabilities you can't see. The dog may not have been obvious to you, but you cannot (unless you have psychic powers) be certain that the dog was not working and we can all be pretty sure that Disney is not in the habit of randomly allowing pets into the park.

 

[iceskatejen]

It's pretty easy to tell if it's a service dog or not. It the dog quiet and settled? Then, it's probably a service dog. Is it bouncing and acting excited (this does not count if the owner/trainer is actually playing with the dog)? Then it might be someone trying to sneak the dog in. Granted service dogs in training might be a tad more excitable than a fully trained one. Service dogs come in all shapes and sizes and can be for a large number of problems. My friend has major allergies (as in she could go into anaphalctic shock and die if exposed to one of the chemicals she's allergic to). Another friend has them for a similar thing, but only he gets nausious around the offending chemicals. I know someone else who uses her dog for psychiatric issues. All 3 are young and are otherwise healthy looking. I enjoy going on the rides with the dogs (you haven't lived until you've ridden POTC with dogs--it's fun). The CMs that they know (AP holders so they know a lot of CMs) enjoy the dogs too. Yep, they often let the CMs they know pet the dogs (turns into therapy for the CMs when they've had a rough day).

 

[Sunobo]

If I had a small service dog, I would use a stroller on a busy day just to keep the dog from getting stepped on. My 8 year old daughter was almost knocked down in a crowded area and her foot was stepped on twice.

 

[mommy2allyandaveri]

We just got back and we saw several service dogs, one of them was even a chihuahua, I didn't even know they were service dogs.

On a side note we also saw a cat at DL this time, at Hungry Bear. I've never seen one there before but it was very friendly, some people were freaking out about their kid petting it because it could be feral, but come on it just wanted some scraps of food and attention.

 

[Davids-Coco]

I know a number of people who have small service dogs. Think about it this way -as one of my friends noted- when she is getting close to an "attack", she doesn't want a lab barking and jumping on her! She'd rather the little dog do it.

ITA though that a stroller is a good idea. A 6lb dog doesn't stand a chance exiting the parks after fireworks. Heck, a 5'1" woman doesn't!

 

[JenDisneylandlver]

Honestly if I see a dog somewhere where dogs aren't supposed to be I still mind my own business. Simply because how do I know if it's a service dog or not?? I have never seen a service dog in a stroller, so that would have been new for me. But completely fine of course. I have health problems that someone wouldn't know by looking at me either, and my brother is in a wheel chair. So I can completely understand the disability side of things.

I would be very surprised if Disney allowed pets to roam the parks. That I would be 100% against.