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[cakebaker]

There will never be a MNSSHP or MVMCP ever again.

Nope, because these mini events sell like hot cakes. There's no reason for the big parties with all the expense that involves when you can sell lesser events for more money.

 

[sdk1231]

But they can't bring back the parade during regular hours.....someone explain to me again those reasons about staff shortages and safety excuses. Guess if you want to see a parade, you're going to pay extra for it.

In years past, the MVMCP Christmas parade and fireworks were done during regular hours the week after Christmas, up through Dec 29. I've gone for NYE 3 times, and each time we've gone to MK on the 29th to see the Christmas parade and fireworks. The only difference in the parade was that it took place at 3pm, where the party parade (obviously) took place at night. Same exact parade though. It was fun to catch the Christmas parade and fireworks for "free" between Christmas and New Year. I love the Christmas parade, but honestly, I was not very impressed with Minnie's Wonderful Christmastime Fireworks. That's probably because: A. Christmas was over, and B. the NYE show Fantasy in the Sky is so good that anything else pales by comparison. In any case, I wonder if Disney will be doing the Christmas parade and fireworks at the MK for "free" in the week between Christmas and New Year as they usually do?

 

[HokieRaven5]

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[figmentfinesse]

Nope, because these mini events sell like hot cakes. There's no reason for the big parties with all the expense that involves when you can sell lesser events for more money.

Are we sure these make more money? I know they’re making a killing with this, but from ticket sales alone I feel like the parties make more money. I went to the first party in 2019 and paid 79 a ticket before tax (I think) and I attended the first boo bash and paid 139. I feel like, at minimum, there were 3x the people, but even 4x or more wouldn’t surprise me. It was unbelievably crowded. The lines were insane. And now that the Xmas after hours has to shell out the cash for fireworks and a parade and all the free drinks/ice cream etc, I’m not sure it will make MORE money than a party.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Are we sure these make more money? I know they’re making a killing with this, but from ticket sales alone I feel like the parties make more money. I went to the first party in 2019 and paid 79 a ticket before tax (I think) and I attended the first boo bash and paid 139. I feel like, at minimum, there were 3x the people, but even 4x or more wouldn’t surprise me. It was unbelievably crowded. The lines were insane. And now that the Xmas after hours has to shell out the cash for fireworks and a parade and all the free drinks/ice cream etc, I’m not sure it will make MORE money than a party.

These tickets are double the price. Less people going but they are paying more than double some nights. There is less staff too and lower operational costs. Disney will do what makes them the most money.

 

[HokieRaven5]

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[cakebaker]

Are we sure these make more money? I know they’re making a killing with this, but from ticket sales alone I feel like the parties make more money. I went to the first party in 2019 and paid 79 a ticket before tax (I think) and I attended the first boo bash and paid 139. I feel like, at minimum, there were 3x the people, but even 4x or more wouldn’t surprise me. It was unbelievably crowded. The lines were insane. And now that the Xmas after hours has to shell out the cash for fireworks and a parade and all the free drinks/ice cream etc, I’m not sure it will make MORE money than a party.

Can I prove it? No. But it involves far fewer CM's and less operating expenses overall. The cost of these after hours events has to be much much less and the price is much, much more. MVMCP was $130 with a $30 discount for AP's and DVC. Factor in the costs and yes, I believe they make at least as much profit and probably more. Supposedly, the capacity for parties was around 25k. The general concensus is the cap for the specialty after hours is around 10k, so if true about 2.5 times fewer people. They could cut the crowd in half and make the same amount of money even if costs were the same. Factor in the costs and yes, I believe they make at least as much profit and probably more.

If these new offerings continue to be popular, I think we've seen the last of the traditional holiday parties. In all honesty, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. The holiday parties were oversold and so crowded you couldn't move. But I'm in the minority on that opinion. In years past, any time I complained about how crowded they were, I got dozens of responses telling me how wonderful they were. I won't miss the parties, but a lot of people will.

 

[cakebaker]

These tickets are double the price. Less people going but they are paying more than double some nights. There is less staff too and lower operational costs. Disney will do what makes them the most money.

While one can argue they didn't have time to plan out a full Halloween party, there is no reason they couldn't have done a full blown Christmas party. There is NO argument to be made they couldn't do for safety reasons. One night of being in the hub for HEA proves there is no concern for safety as far as crowd levels go with Disney. You can bet they took a look at operational costs, the willingness of guests to pay any price for anything and saw an opportunity to ditch the high production, relatively low ticket price events and replace them. There's a reason we aren't seeing MVMCP this year and it's because this one turns a higher profit.

 

[preemiemama]

While one can argue they didn't have time to plan out a full Halloween party, there is no reason they couldn't have done a full blown Christmas party. There is NO argument to be made they couldn't do for safety reasons. One night of being in the hub for HEA proves there is no concern for safety as far as crowd levels go with Disney. You can bet they took a look at operational costs, the willingness of guests to pay any price for anything and saw an opportunity to ditch the high production, relatively low ticket price events and replace them. There's a reason we aren't seeing MVMCP this year and it's because this one turns a higher profit.

Didn't MVMCP also have meet and greets that the AH events won't have? I know that's true for Halloween.

 

[cakebaker]

Didn't MVMCP also have meet and greets that the AH events won't have? I know that's true for Halloween.

Yes. There are many cut backs with these new events and characters is one of them.

 

[pigletto]

The Christmas event pricing is bonkers . It has me thinking about our Disney trip history. My husband and I are almost empty nesters, and we’ve been going to Disney since 2008. We are far more comfortable than when the kids were small, yet I worry we are getting priced out of Disney. It’s crazy.

However, I also remember those first few trips where we watched every penny and went at the absolute cheapest time and couldn’t afford a single extra and they were AMAZING trips. So I hope that value remains for young families. I hope they can still go without all of the extra events and parties and still be able to have a magical trip.
Guess I’m feeling nostalgic today .

 

[Lsdolphin]

OMG I remember many years ago when Christmas parties first began it was $25! I remember they took family photos and it was included!

 

[Heather07438]

OMG I remember many years ago when Christmas parties first began it was $25! I remember they took family photos and it was included!

lol. I remember seeing MK dessert party for around $30 and thinking "Who's gonna spend that for dessert?"

 

[elsbit]

Yeah, now let's see how crazily priced the dessert parties get.

 

[Garyjames220]

Any guesses to when the desert parties might return

 

[IceSkatingPrincess]

lol. I remember seeing MK dessert party for around $30 and thinking "Who's gonna spend that for dessert?"

I used to live driving distance to the World and did the MK dessert party ALL. THE. TIME. back when it was like $25.

It was the best kept secret for awhile. Unfortunately I knew Disney would catch on eventually... man those were the days though!

 

[HokieRaven5]

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[tinkerhon]

OMG I remember many years ago when Christmas parties first began it was $25! I remember they took family photos and it was included!

Yep ! Posted the same in another thread----- The photo was complimentary and mailed to your home, and they gave out buttons too !!!

 

[DianaMB333]

Any info available for the return of dessert parties?

 

[soniam]

Any info available for the return of dessert parties?

Nope. Probably still waiting for enough staff. That was the word on the street from a retired CM who worked the parties. This was about a month ago. They kind of need to get some other stuff up still first, like restaurants and shows. However, those may be different staffing needs.