Disney News, Discussion & an Element of Fun - 2024 Edition

[tinkerhon]

Oh my. The CGI for the dwarves looks....................unfortunate.

Is it worse than the “bob” they gave zegler ? She’s so pretty, but saw the trailer before a packed Moana 2 house, and our entire theatre was whispering about it… gives me Oompa Loompa vibes… and again, she’s very beautiful!

 

[BayTower2010]

Disney is on a bit of a roll in the movie divisions. In my opinion, they should just send Snow White straight to Disney plus. This movie just did not need to be made and the star has made some very controversial statements. Do not let those critics waiting in the wings get a chance at screaming how woke Disney still is.

 

[Sheryl2059]

Is it worse than the “bob” they gave zegler ? She’s so pretty, but saw the trailer before a packed Moana 2 house, and our entire theatre was whispering about it… gives me Oompa Loompa vibes… and again, she’s very beautiful!

There are AI generated variations of her Snow White character and they are quite good. There a few different 'what if' images of a more contemporary look and a possible Peter Dinklage casting and the suggestions and style they portrayed work well. Then again, not sure I would like to see him sing. It's not what Disney went for of course and like you I'm sure he saw 'Oompa Loompa'.

However, and to be %100 fair to Disney, this is a direct live action adaptation of what many consider to be Walt Disneys most important work. They likely felt contrained on how far they could deviate from it and simply couldnt win. Its not The Little Mermaid. I agree perhaps they should have left it alone as a seminal piece of Disney history.

As for the anti-woke complainers, they are all the same idiots that complain about Ariels skin color. Everybody else like myself says "go away to your feel-good echo chambers" and they can bite me.

 

[bryaalre]

Cinderella wasn't bad but it was painfully dull. Jungle Book also wasn't that bad but meh could take it or leave it. The rest of them range from bad to garbage.

I am sorry that these remakes aren't for you but the majority of them are not bad or garbage, not counting the ones sent directly to Disney Plus like Pan and Pinocchio, because those are all absolutely trash. But, just looking at rotten tomatoes for them all, more than half have received great scores from either the audience or critics.

I, for one, enjoy a lot of them and actively choose to watch some over their animated counterparts. Mufasa looks great and I am intrigued with the story. I am excited for the songs since LMM worked on it and the song I always wanted a brother, to me, is better than any song from Moana 2 or Wish.

Edit: I agree that Snow White looks odd and I am not really looking forward to watching it based on the trailer.

 

[fatmanatee]

Disney is on a bit of a roll in the movie divisions. In my opinion, they should just send Snow White straight to Disney plus. This movie just did not need to be made and the star has made some very controversial statements. Do not let those critics waiting in the wings get a chance at screaming how woke Disney still is.

None of the remakes needed to be made. They were made and there are two more coming up after this because they've made piles of money with them.

If we could keep the political talk off this thread that would be fantastic.

 

[Smugpugmug]

But, just looking at rotten tomatoes for them all, more than half have received great scores from either the audience or critics.

Exactly why I don't trust Rotten Tomatoes in general when it comes to movie critique.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

None of the remakes needed to be made. They were made and there are two more coming up after this because they've made piles of money with them.

If we could keep the political talk off this thread that would be fantastic.

I'm always puzzled by the statement that a movie didn't "need to be made." I'm not sure that any movie needs to be made.
I usually don't enjoy the live-action remakes, I think the only one I liked okay was Little Mermaid. But they make money--and thus, there's an audience for them--so I understand why they are made.

 

[fatmanatee]

I'm always puzzled by the statement that a movie didn't "need to be made." I'm not sure that any movie needs to be made.
I usually don't enjoy the live-action remakes, I think the only one I liked okay was Little Mermaid. But they make money--and thus, there's an audience for them--so I understand why they are made.

Never seen any of them. I've seen the box office reports though.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I am sorry that these remakes aren't for you but the majority of them are not bad or garbage, not counting the ones sent directly to Disney Plus like Pan and Pinocchio, because those are all absolutely trash. But, just looking at rotten tomatoes for them all, more than half have received great scores from either the audience or critics.

I, for one, enjoy a lot of them and actively choose to watch some over their animated counterparts. Mufasa looks great and I am intrigued with the story. I am excited for the songs since LMM worked on it and the song I always wanted a brother, to me, is better than any song from Moana 2 or Wish.

Edit: I agree that Snow White looks odd and I am not really looking forward to watching it based on the trailer.

My mother is really looking forward to Mufasa, too... I'm not but I'll take her to see it because I'm nice (lol). I'm much more a fan of the Animation studio; different strokes for different folks and that's fine!

 

[HokieRaven5]

Always viewed the live action remakes as a way to keep the classic stories going just from a different cinematic approach. At least when it was films that were over 30 years old.

It’s the ones like Moana, and How to Train Your Dragon where I don’t see why, beyond milking a franchise.

 

[Smugpugmug]

How to Train Your Dragon where I don’t see why, beyond milking a franchise.

It's a thinly veiled Epic Universe advertisement.

 

[tinkerhon]

There are AI generated variations of her Snow White character and they are quite good. There a few different 'what if' images of a more contemporary look and a possible Peter Dinklage casting and the suggestions and style they portrayed work well. Then again, not sure I would like to see him sing. It's not what Disney went for of course and like you I'm sure he saw 'Oompa Loompa'.

However, and to be %100 fair to Disney, this is a direct live action adaptation of what many consider to be Walt Disneys most important work. They likely felt contrained on how far they could deviate from it and simply couldnt win. Its not The Little Mermaid. I agree perhaps they should have left it alone as a seminal piece of Disney history.

As for the anti-woke complainers, they are all the same idiots that complain about Ariels skin color. Everybody else like myself says "go away to your feel-good echo chambers" and they can bite me.

I had no problems at all with a live action adaptation…. And no problems at all with The Little Mermaid one as well…. (Or the casting) . I thought TLM was fantastic!

I just think that White’s hair works better with the animated feature than the live adaptation, but it is what it is… won’t stop me one bit from seeing the film, and appreciating it. I think, if anything, the movie (at least the box office take) might suffer from Zegler’s comments regarding the original Snow White… ( which, honestly, I don’t think were that terrible)

 

[Sheryl2059]

I guess if you are an actor you cant have a personal opinion about a nearly 90 year old movie character and story. Or women in general. And if you are a kid, it is not acceptable to be scared. I suppose this social media manufactured 'controversy' is somehow important to a few people that have nothing better to do in their lives. I was dealing with much more important matters this morning. Such as whether or not I wanted to lounge around in a Grumpy t-shirt or a Donald one.

 

[StarCruzer]

Always viewed the live action remakes as a way to keep the classic stories going just from a different cinematic approach. At least when it was films that were over 30 years old.

It’s the ones like Moana, and How to Train Your Dragon where I don’t see why, beyond milking a franchise.

My assumptions is honestly that because Disney Parks are the biggest money maker in The Walt Disney Company, that the live action remakes are a way of avoid spending money (aka taking risk) on attractions based on new properties.

The closest attraction opening date tied to a movie IP I think was the Frozen ride (movie 2013, ride 2016). I think it's legitimately more cost effective for Disney to re-do the older movies and renew interest in old IPs then to build attractions based on new IPs.

Just my theory anyway!

 

[HokieRaven5]

My assumptions is honestly that because Disney Parks are the biggest money maker in The Walt Disney Company, that the live action remakes are a way of avoid spending money (aka taking risk) on attractions based on new properties.

The closest attraction opening date tied to a movie IP I think was the Frozen ride (movie 2013, ride 2016). I think it's legitimately more cost effective for Disney to re-do the older movies and renew interest in old IPs then to build attractions based on new IPs.

Just my theory anyway!

From 2022-now it would be right that the parks have been the biggest money maker.

Prior to that going as far back as at least the early 90s the media/entertainment side of the company provided more of the income.

The latest reported earnings period with the studios doing better and streaming earning more of a profit the entertainment side did better in terms of total income for the company than the Parks&Experiences side.

They absolutely should continue to invest in the parks and hopefully they actually proceed with what they’ve recently announced and it’s not Tron levels of waiting once they’ve actually started construction.

 

[OKW Lover]

I think Disney has a fairly delicate balancing act. Yes, the Parks are a huge, profitable part of their business. But in some years the Entertainment segment makes more money than the Parks.

The Parks need new things to attract more return visits. Typically those new things are derived from IP that the Entertainment sector created. Disney really can't afford to short change one segment in favor of the other over the long term.

 

[Sheryl2059]

Symbiosis. It can be the other way around like Pirates but I doubt they will ever recreate that kind of success again.

 

[wabbott]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1599825940976087043

 

[Brian Noble]

It’s the ones like Moana, and How to Train Your Dragon where I don’t see why, beyond milking a franchise.

The point of making movies (for Disney, anyway) is to make money. Milking a franchise is just another phrase for "lets make some money".

Symbiosis

I've found the history of Walt/Disneyland/etc to be fascinating. Neal Gabler's Walt biography is a good place to start. It's fairly clear that Disneyland was created in part to connect to the films that the studio was producing at the time--it was a way to drive interest in the studio as much as a way to capitalize on what the studio produced.

 

[wabbott]

I've found the history of Walt/Disneyland/etc to be fascinating. Neal Gabler's Walt biography is a good place to start. It's fairly clear that Disneyland was created in part to connect to the films that the studio was producing at the time--it was a way to drive interest in the studio as much as a way to capitalize on what the studio produced.

I dug up my copy of Richard Snow's Disney's Land (2019) to see what he wrote about the subject.

He said that Walt Disney first put his ideas on paper for the park in memo dated 8/31/1948. He and Ward Kimball had just returned from a visiting a railroad fair in Chicago and also stopped at Henry Ford's Greenfield Village in Dearborn, MI.

Text of memo here:
https://www.waltsapartment.com/walts-first-vision-of-disneyland/

Chicago Railroad Fair:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Railroad_Fair
Greenfield Village:
https://www.thehenryford.org/visit/greenfield-village/