Disney is losing some magic......

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I had a guest accuse me of stealing her flight boarding passes (like I needed them)?? She said I stole them during turndown service. She complained to my boss and the GM on site, everyone. Had me digging in the garbage bins outside (no joke, I was going the extra disney mile even though I knew I didn't touch the passes). She called every thirty minutes to yell at the housekeeping staff in the phone room. Right before my shift was done she called again and said "I found them in my purse" and then hung up. Never said sorry! It amazes me how people act on vacation.

That's just rude. Some people just need to take a step back and reverse the situation and think about how they would feel. Be kind to people and you have a better shot of them being kind back to you. I always go out of my way to chat with the CMs. My DW always gets mad because she claims that I talk to them to much.....LOL! Could be due to the fact that I majored in communications....LOL! It's interesting talking to CM's who live in different parts of the US or other countries. :goodvibes
 
Not only with 15 WDW/DLR trips, but also traveling on several other trips each year either business or pleasure over the last twenty years I have certainly seen an increase in more cases of rude, inconsiderate, and impatient customers than any difficult service people in stores, restaurants, planes, hotels, and airports. I know certainly am aware of how much more expensive and stressful travel has become, but does not in mind excuse some of the way people treat others, especially those in service industries often just trying to do their job.
 
All starts and ends with bad management.

No doubt they treat cast members like crap then that gets passed onto the customers.

We all need to go Disneyland! Hearing great reports from there.
 
All starts and ends with bad management.

No doubt they treat cast members like crap then that gets passed onto the customers.

We all need to go Disneyland! Hearing great reports from there.

You just as easy run into a bad CM at DLR, the vast majority of WDW CMs do a great job, but with thousands of CMs and tens of thousands of visitors in a park on any given day no doubt there will be issues. But in my experience I notice and interact with many more bad visitors and their behaviors than CMs.
 

I actually thought DL CMs in general were less friendly than WDW. Obviously there are exceptions to every rule but that www my experience. (Not that I've ever had a bad experience in either place).
 
I had a guest accuse me of stealing her flight boarding passes (like I needed them)?? She said I stole them during turndown service. She complained to my boss and the GM on site, everyone. Had me digging in the garbage bins outside (no joke, I was going the extra disney mile even though I knew I didn't touch the passes). She called every thirty minutes to yell at the housekeeping staff in the phone room. Right before my shift was done she called again and said "I found them in my purse" and then hung up. Never said sorry! It amazes me how people act on vacation.

These are the type of people who are jerks not just on vacation but in everyday life:thumbsup2
 

I try to stay positive and nice all the time, not just at WDW but lets be honesty no one is always that happy, cut the CM's some slack, maybe they just dealt with a nasty guest, unless they are being flat out rude then complain away.

I also find if i am more pleasant the CM or any customer service person is more pleasant.


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We have always found that if you treat anyone in a customer service position like an equal you will get the kind of service you want. I made a point of saying thank-you to everyone we dealt with on our trip, from the CM cleaning the bathrooms (made one cry she was so grateful that anyone even acknowledged her) to the servers in the Signature Restaurants. We had some amazing things happen because of it ... I think getting the impromptu hug goodbye from the CM at our resort when we picked up our luggage before we got on the ME (we had used the "cage" for hubby's laptop numerous days so they knew us) was a huge bow on our trip! :thumbsup2

That is what I think too.

I was at the parks in October, and expected to see a bunch of grumpy CMs. And that was not the case. I was called Honey multiple times, and the one grumpy CM I ran into was notable because he was the only one who was grumpy. By and large the CMs were great!

I know they are not all gems, but I have not had the same experience as many other posters. I can't help but think that attitude has a lot to do with it.
 
It would be nice if this board could do 12 hours without someone posting the exact same thing, almost word for word.

However, I will say that some of the criticism is justified. And as Pete likes to say, and I think he's 100% right, it's the fact that Traditions training has been cut so much.

But don't forget that a lot of it has to do with bigger crowds full of more entitled customers. Although, I will say that I've never seen anyone be rude to a cast member that I can remember. But I hear plenty of stories of it happening.
 
Leaving now. I encountered some pretty awesome cast members. I saw a lot of them take abuse from park guests and just stand there and suck it up. That's awesome in itself. How many of you would take abuse from another guest and just walk away from it? The only CMs I ran into who were less than stellar were the ones at the resort gift shop. I have been going to WDW since 1972 and I have been at some of the peak times ( Christmas week, spring break, etc) and have never seen it so consistently crowded. I hate to say it but if they would ease up on free dining and some of the other discounts, level the playing field as far as ADRs and FPs maybe it would calm down a bit.
 
That is what I think too.

I was at the parks in October, and expected to see a bunch of grumpy CMs. And that was not the case. I was called Honey multiple times, and the one grumpy CM I ran into was notable because he was the only one who was grumpy. By and large the CMs were great!

I know they are not all gems, but I have not had the same experience as many other posters. I can't help but think that attitude has a lot to do with it.
I thought the same thing, when we went in September.

We ran into one grumpy/angry CM. He was working Thunder Mountain.

Every other one went out of their way to helpful and kind.

Heck, at one park, when I returned the scooter, she remembered that they were holding my walker. She reminded the other CM that they had it and that it was blue. :thumbsup2 Of course I had the claim ticket, but they had my walker ready for me before I could get it out of my pack. I have no idea how she remembered it. They had to have seen bunches of people throughout the day.
 
Just surprised the poster would start a new thread, rather than simply adding to one of the other ones.QUOTE]

For the same reason that there are a gazillion magic band and fastpass+ threads out there discussing the same things over and over...because it's just easier to start a thread rather than search for existing threads
 
Just surprised the poster would start a new thread, rather than simply adding to one of the other ones.QUOTE]

For the same reason that there are a gazillion magic band and fastpass+ threads out there discussing the same things over and over...because it's just easier to start a thread rather than search for existing threads

To be fair, the search function is less than stellar. :sad2:
 
One day left here....

Hve only had positive experiences with CMs. ( Have had a few negatives in the past though.......as can be expected with anything )

I truly think some of the issues people have.......and I'm not talking about the people who would be rude in any situation...........but I think all the planning and money puts people on edge. The cushion for a problem is very slim.
 
I truly think some of the issues people have.......and I'm not talking about the people who would be rude in any situation...........but I think all the planning and money puts people on edge. The cushion for a problem is very slim.

Great point.
 
Didn't say I didn't want to read it. Just surprised the poster would start a new thread, rather than simply adding to one of the other ones.

And if you haven't seen the "Disney is losing the magic" threads, you haven't been looking. Oh, maybe you have seen them, since you indicated that the board is getting edgier.

The most recent one turned into a fight and was closed.
 
We have been here since Monday. Tues - Thursday have been wonderful crowd-wise. Fellow guests, as well as CMs, have all been very friendly. Today, DHS was a bit crowded. A few tour groups have caused the FP lines on certain rides to be over 20 minutes, but other than that, we have had an amazing time! We were here in June, and I noticed fellow guests weren't as friendly. I'm starting to think it was the hot weather and crowds!
 
We just left this morning after a couple of weeks at WDW, and I had been reading the threads about poor customer service and nasty restrooms and I had really tried to shrug it off......

But then I was in a couple of restrooms (one at Epcot and the other at Narcoossee's) that were so bad I took pictures; I had overheard the CM outside the one at Epcot telling another CM that he was "supposed to be on streets today but they put me on restrooms so (F) them..."

Then we got kicked out of our room yesterday morning because the cheerleaders were arriving and apparently they can't separate the cupcakes from the chaperones, and bell services insisted on throwing all our personal belongings on their cart and whisking them off to storage because they couldn't tell us yet what room we would be in.....

Not to mention the several cast members standing at either food stands or line queues carrying on loud and personal conversations and only acknowledging guests briefly as almost an interruption before resuming their personal conversations....

So yeah, I tried to shrug it off and not pay any attention to it but now that you mention it I would most definitely agree that the caliber of Disney employee does not seem to be what it used to be.
 
As a former WDW cast member I valued my job and took a lot of pride in working there, however, unfortunately this is most definetly not the case for all cast members and I have my theories on why this happens which I will explain below, here are the reasons:

1) Unionized Environment
Most full time and part time WDW cast members are unionized which means they are part of labor unions, these labor unions could care less about guest service or "Disney Magic", they are there to make money from hard working cast members and battle Disney at any chance they get making it very difficult for management. On my first day of company orientation a mean-spirited union rep walked into the training room and practically FORCED everyone to join the union. These unions are the reasons why management cannot fire poor performers and cranky senior cast members that have been with the company for 20+ years can practically get away with ANYTHING as Disney management is afraid to fight with the powerful union. I worked alongside cast members that treated guests terribly and didn't give a care in the world because they KNEW that management would turn a blind eye, one time I even witnessed a senior cast member laugh in a managers face when the manager tried to coach him on something he had done wrong, shortly afterwards he requested a union rep and he never heard anything from the manager ever again..

2) College Program
College interns are brought in from all over the world to fill THOUSANDS of hourly positions at the parks, resorts, shops, restaurants, etc. year after year serving short term internship terms and getting paid below minimum wage and living in sub par shared housing, they come and leave like a rotating door with little incentive to shine as it is only a temporary job and for many it is an excuse to escape their hometowns, be immature, get drunk, and party away from home with little supervision. While my time working at the deluxe resorts I saw a handful of these interns get terminated and sent back home for many reasons; being drunk on the job, engaging in inappropriate acts at work while on company time, etc... Go figure..

3) Too many layers of management and Hierarchy
Being a MASSIVE company, Disney has an endless mountain of hierarchy before you can remotely reach a senior upper level manager that actually has the power to make visible changes, below these senior level managers are HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of line level managers that have VERY LITTLE to NO POWER at all, their job is to "handle" the guests and cast members make them feel happy so that these senior level managers NEVER once have to interact with a guest and much less an hourly-level cast member. While my time working at a WDW resort front desk I faced many situations where guests expressed valid concerns, in most cases the manager on duty would simply give the guest compensation and call it a day, there really was nothing else the manager could do in regards to fixing an issue, they would rather give money away and keep quiet then face their bosses with a valid issue and put their political reputation at risk for being negative or "not magical" ..

These three issues will likely never change as these are HUGE feats and are part of the company inner-culture on how things work and have been accepted as they are by high level senior management for decades. In many cases such as the union issue there are legalities involved that Disney is not going to put itself at risk to resolve, every time union negotiations come around Disney virtually always ends up settling with what the union wants to avoid labor conflicts in the public eye and negative PR, in the long run this will negatively affect guest service and company culture and it is not going to change.
 
Didn't say I didn't want to read it. Just surprised the poster would start a new thread, rather than simply adding to one of the other ones.

And if you haven't seen the "Disney is losing the magic" threads, you haven't been looking. Oh, maybe you have seen them, since you indicated that the board is getting edgier.

Well....you certainly added a lot to the conversation. You opened a thread about someone complaining, read their post, then took the time to complain about their starting a new thread complaining about their experience.

And realistically, as long as the masses continue to plop thousands upon thousands of dollars down on the Disney reputation (which may not, at all, be supported by the current culture).....Disney's folks aren't going to care about how "magical" your stay is. They may say they will....but they won't really. They are certainly still selling the "magic." and customers are still buying it....but the overall vibe is VERY different than it was even 10 years ago.

:thumbsup2
 
1) Unionized Environment
Most full time and part time WDW cast members are unionized which means they are part of labor unions, these labor unions could care less about guest service or "Disney Magic", they are there to make money from hard working cast members and battle Disney at any chance they get making it very difficult for management. On my first day of company orientation a mean-spirited union rep walked into the training room and practically FORCED everyone to join the union. These unions are the reasons why management cannot fire poor performers and cranky senior cast members that have been with the company for 20+ years can practically get away with ANYTHING as Disney management is afraid to fight with the powerful union. I worked alongside cast members that treated guests terribly and didn't give a care in the world because they KNEW that management would turn a blind eye, one time I even witnessed a senior cast member laugh in a managers face when the manager tried to coach him on something he had done wrong, shortly afterwards he requested a union rep and he never heard anything from the manager ever again..

I get that this is your "experience" but ... :rotfl2:

Right, because it is SUCH a militant union, with so much power, that is why the employees are paid such extravagant salaries and such.

Unions are only powerful insofar as they hold leverage over the employer, which this union clearly does not. WDW could fire anyone they wanted, there would be no strike, no nothing.
 
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