Disney has lost another family - do they care?

[wdwfreak]

Can you securely guarantee to those who travel during busy times that they can get whatever FP+ they want on the day of visit? I can understand that worry.

No, I can't personally, but Christmastime visitors were reporting full day-of availability.

 

[mavadell]

It doesn't really matter if it's 60 days or 6 days. You still have to buy your tickets before you leave home to pre book and avoid the kiosks. It still encourages you to lock yourself into Disney parks ahead of time.

 

[Spork24]

It doesn't really matter if it's 60 days or 6 days. You still have to buy your tickets before you leave home to pre book and avoid the kiosks. It still encourages you to lock yourself into Disney parks ahead of time.

Again, I disagree. It would be easier if you did that, but Tickets can be added to your MB from any PC and then you should be able to pre book from your smart phone or tablet.

I'm not sure how many people wait to buy tickets that stay on property. I can't believe this is Disney's financial justification for a 1B dollar project.

I don't even think we've seen the real elephant in the room yet and that is the RFID mid range transmitter that they will be able to use to track your movement throughout the day, and be able to use that info to sell you more merchandise in some way.

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

I don't understand? How are you locked into a park? Because of FP+? You know you can change your FP+ at any time, right? Even the day of. So if you wake up and decide you'd rather to Epcot, you can change your FP to that park. Reports says that all experiences are still available the day of. So, how are you locked in exactly?

um, okay? I never said YOU were trying to lock people in. I was saying that you said the goal of the new system was to lock people in. The new system is FP+. You said the "new system" i.e. FP+ is Disney's way of locking people in to going to their parks before they leave home. How is changing the FP system doing that? You have still not answered that question. You have dodged it and twisted my words.

Ok, if a family normally doesn't buy tickets until the arrive in Orlando. They can be more swayed by ads for other Orlando attractions and may decide to shorten the amount of days they had planned to visit Disney parks. Now does that really change 60 days before they leave home, maybe not. But Disney is going to start pushing this idea that you need to pre-book your favorite rides 60 days out (weather it is true or not) or you may not get what you want and you have to purchase your tickets before you can. There are not many families that can just forget about the amount of money they spend of those tickets once they reach Orlando. They have too much money tied up in those tickets to not use them. They are more locked into going to Disney parks than if they arrive in Orlando not having any tickets purchased.

As Mavadell said

A lot of people (on site and offsite) book room only instead of a package. We always stay on site, but add our tickets when we arrive in case we have to cancel because with room only you can cancel with no penalty five days before your trip. Now we have to buy our tickets 60 days out to have the same FP+ booking ability as everyone else, thus Disney has now locked us into their parks by forcing us to buy tickets before we leave. That's the purpose of FP+. Understand?

Disney is going to give the impression this is what needs to be done to have a good visit to their parks.

 

[Planogirl]

No, I can't personally, but Christmastime visitors were reporting full day-of availability.

I was there the week before Christmas week as an offsite visitor. We had no trouble getting all of the legacy fastpasses we wanted. Don't forget that those were still there at the time.

 

[wdwfreak]

Again, I disagree. It would be easier if you did that, but Tickets can be added to your MB from any PC and then you should be able to pre book from your smart phone or tablet.

I'm not sure how many people wait to buy tickets that stay on property. I can't believe this is Disney's financial justification for a 1B dollar project.

I was just getting ready to type some of the same things, so THIS.

 

[Spork24]

I was there the week before Christmas week as an offsite visitor. We had no trouble getting all of the legacy fastpasses we wanted. Don't forget that those were still there at the time.

Which meant fewer FPs in the FP+ allotment due to the ones reserved for the paper machines.

 

[Planogirl]

Wouldn't most people fully intend to visit the Disney parks while in Orlando anyway? We go many places but I can't imagine us skipping the Disney parks unless we're in the area for a particular event. I just wonder if those who wait to buy tickets is really such a large amount. Maybe but it would surprise me.

 

[Planogirl]

Which meant fewer FPs in the FP+ allotment due to the ones reserved for the paper machines.

However everyone still had an equal shot. That's not true right now (but of course could change.)

 

[Spork24]

Wouldn't most people fully intend to visit the Disney parks while in Orlando anyway? We go many places but I can't imagine us skipping the Disney parks unless we're in the area for a particular event. I just wonder if those who wait to buy tickets is really such a large amount. Maybe but it would surprise me.

I agree.

Of course I'm the guy who iF I could go to Orlando for 16 days would probably spend them all at disney. I never make time to go to the other parks because then I would be sacrificing Disney time.

 

[wdwfreak]

Ok, if a family normally doesn't buy tickets until the arrive in Orlando. They can be more swayed by ads for other Orlando attractions and may decide to shorten the amount of days they had planned to visit Disney parks. Now does that really change 60 days before they leave home, maybe not. But Disney is going to start pushing this idea that you need to pre-book your favorite rides 60 days out (weather it is true or not) or you may not get what you want and you have to purchase your tickets before you can. There are not many families that can just forget about the amount of money they spend of those tickets once they reach Orlando. They have too much money tied up in those tickets to not use them. They are more locked into going to Disney parks than if they arrive in Orlando not having any tickets purchased..

Do some people plan a trip to Orlando and just fly by the seat of their pants? Maybe. Did Disney invest 1B on the chance that these people are waiting until the day they arrive in Orlando to decide what they are going to do? Doubtful. If these people are that spontaneous, I doubt FP+ will get them. While I still disagree with you, I appreciate you elaborating on your original point.

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

Wouldn't most people fully intend to visit the Disney parks while in Orlando anyway? We go many places but I can't imagine us skipping the Disney parks unless we're in the area for a particular event. I just wonder if those who wait to buy tickets is really such a large amount. Maybe but it would surprise me.

I've wondered the same thing. The thing is, weather any of us feel or think it locks us in, Disney has said that it was their goal.

 

[wdwfreak]

Wouldn't most people fully intend to visit the Disney parks while in Orlando anyway? We go many places but I can't imagine us skipping the Disney parks unless we're in the area for a particular event. I just wonder if those who wait to buy tickets is really such a large amount. Maybe but it would surprise me.

Agreed.

 

[wdwfreak]

Of course I'm the guy who iF I could go to Orlando for 16 days would probably spend them all at disney. I never make time to go to the other parks because then I would be sacrificing Disney time.

We WOULD be friends in real life.

 

[Spork24]

However everyone still had an equal shot. That's not true right now (but of course could change.)

From what I've read "day of" fast passes are very doable, even if not ideal, at the kiosks. Sending runners to get fast passes wasn't ideal for some groups either. I'll probably never use a kiosk because I always stay on property.

I'm not so sure why everyone is so upset that Disney would provide it's app as a perk to the customers who stay on property. They are the ones providing the most income to disney. Evryone has the ability to book a room on property, unless I've missed some discrimination policy in Disney's hotels.

I hope everyone gets access to the app. But have no problem if disney doesn't want to do that.

 

[Planogirl]

We WOULD be friends in real life.

I wouldn't do that but I'm still usually pretty friendly.

Hey to each their own. I've been to WDW A LOT and if I never go again, I have a lot of experience to cherish.

 

[mavadell]

I think you would be surprised how many people plan a trip to Orlando, book a hotel or condo and say "we'll spend a couple of days at Disney and maybe do Sea World and Legoland", and buy tickets at the gate. When off site gets the ability to pre book FP+, that casual visitor might decide to buy tickets ahead of time.

 

[Spork24]

I'm going to bed, I've spent WAY too much time thinking about this thread tonight. Goodnight everyone!

 

[wdwfreak]

i'm not so sure why everyone is so upset that disney would provide it's app as a perk to the customers who stay on property. They are the ones providing the most income to disney. Evryone has the ability to book a room on property, unless i've missed some discrimination policy in disney's hotels.

exactly!

 

[Evoga]

Selfish me hopes a lot more people stop going to WDW as it's so busy the last few years. I would love it to go back to the low crowds of the past.

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