Disney has lost another family - do they care?

[mom2mickeyfan]

My family does go to Universal. Plus we usually only took 3-4 fastpasses per day. What does that make me?

Happy with your trip I hope!!

 

[Planogirl]

The FPs have nothing to do with "locking you in." If you purchase a 6 day pass before you head to Orlando, the easy money says you're spending 6 days in Disney parks. Your tickets (which expire 14 days after the first use unless you spring for the No Expiration option) lock you in. They always did. Unless you didn't use days and lost them. I still fail to see how changing the FP system forces you to go to Disney parks or locks you in to going to Disney parks when you're in Orlando.

I agree. The length of those expensive tickets is what locks you in.

We often spent some time in a Disney park and then would go offsite for other things. Actually with FP+ doing this just became even easier.

 

[skater]

A lot of people (on site and offsite) book room only instead of a package. We always stay on site, but add our tickets when we arrive in case we have to cancel because with room only you can cancel with no penalty five days before your trip. Now we have to buy our tickets 60 days out to have the same FP+ booking ability as everyone else, thus Disney has now locked us into their parks by forcing us to buy tickets before we leave. That's the purpose of FP+. Understand?

This is a potential problem for my family because sometimes we spread out our expenses by buying tickets at separate times.

 

[wdwfreak]

This new system has nothing to do with limiting the "abusers". It has to do with locking guest into their parks before they ever leave their homes.

Shake your head all you want, but you said "This new system...has to do with locking guest into their parks..."

If you're not referring to FP+, what "new system" are you referring to?

 

[Spork24]

A lot of people (on site and offsite) book room only instead of a package. We always stay on site, but add our tickets when we arrive in case we have to cancel because with room only you can cancel with no penalty five days before your trip. Now we have to buy our tickets 60 days out to have the same FP+ booking ability as everyone else, thus Disney has now locked us into their parks by forcing us to buy tickets before we leave. That's the purpose of FP+. Understand?

My experience is that you don't NEED to book 60 days out because the hold lots of slots open and release them at park open. So if you have a smart phone you can book them at park open no matter where you are without a FP. I've done it this way myself. So unless that changes, I disagree that they are requiring you to book 60 days out.

Btw of the system changes so you can't make modifications easily day of (as I've experienced) I'll be joining the ranks of the FP+ haters club. But not the FP- abusers club because all FPs deserve to be cherished. Lol

 

[Planogirl]

This is a potential problem for my family because sometimes we spread out our expenses by buying tickets at separate times.

Us too plus I don't decide until later how many days we need.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Shake your head all you want, but you said "This new system...has to do with locking guest into their parks..."

If you're not referring to FP+, what "new system" are you referring to?

She said that was Disney's intent...to keep the general public onsite. She never said she *personally* was never returning to wdw and instead going to universal, which is what the previous poster was saying she said.

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

Shake your head all you want, but you said "This new system...has to do with locking guest into their parks..."

If you're not referring to FP+, what "new system" are you referring to?

I am referring to that but all I did was repeat what Disney has stated is the goal of the system. For some reason you want to imply just because I didn't put "Disney has stated" in that line that MY goal is to lock guest into Disney parks.

 

[wdwfreak]

A lot of people (on site and offsite) book room only instead of a package. We always stay on site, but add our tickets when we arrive in case we have to cancel because with room only you can cancel with no penalty five days before your trip. Now we have to buy our tickets 60 days out to have the same FP+ booking ability as everyone else, thus Disney has now locked us into their parks by forcing us to buy tickets before we leave. That's the purpose of FP+. Understand?

I understand what you are trying to say, but I must respectfully disagree. You can book FP+ the day of and get whatever you want. You don't HAVE to buy your tickets 60 days out. You're not being forced to do anything. People are going out of their way to decry a system that they don't like because they are used to the old one, even if their arguments against are incorrect or illogical.

 

[mavadell]

It might not be necessary to book 60 days ahead, but you have to admit that most people will because they are afraid they will miss out. Just look at all the people booking "ghost rooms" because they want the ability to book 60 days out. It's human nature and Disney knows that!

 

[amg35]

I am referring to that but all I did was repeat what Disney has stated is the goal of the system. For some reason you want to imply just because I didn't put "Disney has stated" in that line that MY goal is to lock guest into Disney parks.

Why wouldn't that be their goal!

For the record, it doesn't make me feel locked in. I always have a plan of where I'm going each day ahead of time anyways, now I can just book my rides ahead of time too. Takes some getting used to, but it won't ruin my trip.

It wouldn't stop me from making a day for Universal if I want to.

 

[wdwfreak]

She said that was Disney's intent...to keep the general public onsite.

Correct. She did say that. Using their "new system."

She never said she *personally* was never returning to wdw and instead going to universal, which is what the previous poster was saying she said.

I never said that, nor was I supporting the PPs assertion. I was asking my own question, which she has still not answered.

 

[Planogirl]

I understand what you are trying to say, but I must respectfully disagree. You can book FP+ the day of and get whatever you want. You don't HAVE to buy your tickets 60 days out. You're not being forced to do anything. People are going out of their way to decry a system that they don't like because they are used to the old one, even if their arguments against are incorrect or illogical.

Can you securely guarantee to those who travel during busy times that they can get whatever FP+ they want on the day of visit? I can understand that worry.

 

[Spork24]

I understand what you are trying to say, but I must respectfully disagree. You can book FP+ the day of and get whatever you want. You don't HAVE to buy your tickets 60 days out. You're not being forced to do anything. People are going out of their way to decry a system that they don't like because they are used to the old one, even if their arguments against are incorrect or illogical.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Try the new system, you will probably like it.

If you try it and don't like it, try to adapt to it.

If you try to adapt to it and can't. I hear Dollywood is really nice in the summer, try it you'll probably like it.

Keep trying this process with various vacation destinations until you either find a place you like better or you realize that Disney FP+ or not is your Green Acres (the place you want to be).

Either way don't forget vacations are supposed to be fun. If your not having any your probably not doing it right.

Disclaimer: much of this post is an attempt at being humorous. Please don't get mad at me for suggesting you vacation somewhere else.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I understand what you are trying to say, but I must respectfully disagree. You can book FP+ the day of and get whatever you want. You don't HAVE to buy your tickets 60 days out.

You don't have to now, no. Whether that will remain the case long term has yet to be seen. 50% of wdw's daily guests currently do not have access to.prebooking (offsite guests), so it stands to reason that availability will be good. All indications are that offsite will get prebooking ability. If and when that happens, there is no way to know *now* how that will affect availability.

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

My experience is that you don't NEED to book 60 days out because the hold lots of slots open and release them at park open. So if you have a smart phone you can book them at park open no matter where you are without a FP. I've done it this way myself. So unless that changes, I disagree that they are requiring you to book 60 days out.

I think this will be the case except for a couple of weeks out of the year but I don't think Disney is going to tell people that. No where are they going to state you can book your passes 60 days out but have no worries, you can still get anything you want the night before. Why make the system to and not try to get all guest to use it the way they want?

 

[wdwfreak]

I am referring to that but all I did was repeat what Disney has stated is the goal of the system. For some reason you want to imply just because I didn't put "Disney has stated" in that line that MY goal is to lock guest into Disney parks.

um, okay? I never said YOU were trying to lock people in. I was saying that you said the goal of the new system was to lock people in. The new system is FP+. You said the "new system" i.e. FP+ is Disney's way of locking people in to going to their parks before they leave home. How is changing the FP system doing that? You have still not answered that question. You have dodged it and twisted my words.

 

[Spork24]

It might not be necessary to book 60 days ahead, but you have to admit that most people will because they are afraid they will miss out. Just look at all the people booking "ghost rooms" because they want the ability to book 60 days out. It's human nature and Disney knows that!

I think a lot of people are booking ghost rooms so they can avoid the kiosk lines and book online. Though some may be doing it so they can get the full 60 days in.

 

[wdwfreak]

You don't have to now, no. Whether that will remain the case long term has yet to be seen. 50% of wdw's daily guests currently do not have access to.prebooking (offsite guests), so it stands to reason that availability will be good. All indications are that offsite will get prebooking ability. If and when that happens, there is no way to know *now* how that will affect availability.

The only thing we can base our opinions on is "now."

 

[Spork24]

The only thing we can base our opinions on in "now."

Well said. I think we would be friends in real life.