Disney has finally suceeded

[ppony]

I just don't get the oversized suv stroller deal,...A lightweight easily collapsed stroller seems like the smart choice to me, if only to make it easier for the parent hauling the thing on and off the buses,

As someone else said, we have our reasons for having a larger stroller. I can assure you, if our priroity was ease of getting on and off of the buses, if we had to have a stroller, it'd be an umbrella stroller as you think it should be. But it's NOT our priority. For long days in the parks, I want my child to be comfortable. We also all have lots of things to carry w/ is that necessitate the larger stroller. And before anyone says all you need to bring is diapers, wipes and sun lotion... my DS is autistic. I already get the stares that we should have him walking a LOT more than he does, we also have to bring all of his food with becuase other than fries, there isn't a thing in the park he will eat. It's not a picnic for us either to have to lug large strollers, but it's what we have to have. We don't all choose these large strollers because we like collapsing and carrying them wherever.
*that said, we always rent cars because of all the stuff we have to bring. Despite having a car, did try a bus ONCE on a trip, just to try it . No thanks.

 

[CdnKayDee]

Sorry for your bad experience. We think that Disney was pretty generous in this situation giving half the cost of the camera.

 

[tinacaplan]

I just find this interesting...we've now experienced Disney for two consecutive President's Week, as well as a week this past July and yet I was never on busses like the ones being described here. Maybe I am just very lucky...
Our first two trips we stayed at CSR, which has excellent bus service, perhaps because its a convention resort so a lot of guests are not going to the parks. In July we were at the BC.

Having said that, on our very first trip we had taken the boat from DTD to POR because I wanted to check out POFQ and it was just DH and I and it seemed like a fun thing to do. The boat ride was great. Both resorts are beautiful. That said, I would never stay ther because the bus ride back to EPCOT was not fun at all; hitting every stop and watching the bus get increasinly more crowded as it it made its way through both resorts. Ugh.

Then again...we were and have always been thrilled to be spared the expense of taxis or car rental when we're in the Disney bubble.

 

[disnut8]

Then the driver decides to get everyone off the bus at the stop for POP. All the way at the other side of the bus stops. I have hip and knee problems which make it more difficult to walk. This is one of the reasons I booked the resort I did. The bus stops are closer to the gate. When I mentioned this to the driver while asking him why we were not at our stop---he actually looked at me and said "ya right"--as if I were lying to him. Then he proceeded to tell me to get off the bus.

I am hard pressed to remember a time that I was left off at "our" bus stop when going to a park. Please remember that the bus drivers don't have a set route so they don't always go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth between one resort and one park. This bus driver was obviously tasked to take people back to Pop Century after picking you up from Port Orleans. Once back at Pop Century, who knows where he would be going. Maybe he would come back to Epcot, maybe he would go to Downtown Disney, maybe the Studios or Magic Kingdom if those parks were open later. And then from there, who knows where he would have to assigned to go.

Never, ever think the stop at which you are dropped off is the one you should take back to your resort. Never.

 

[Saylan]

I am hard pressed to remember a time that I was left off at "our" bus stop when going to a park. Please remember that the bus drivers don't have a set route so they don't always go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth between one resort and one park. This bus driver was obviously tasked to take people back to Pop Century after picking you up from Port Orleans. Once back at Pop Century, who knows where he would be going. Maybe he would come back to Epcot, maybe he would go to Downtown Disney, maybe the Studios or Magic Kingdom if those parks were open later. And then from there, who knows where he would have to assigned to go.

Never, ever think the stop at which you are dropped off is the one you should take back to your resort. Never.

I agree with this. Not once did we get dropped at 'our' stop. Sometimes the bus driver would even say "Please be sure to check what bus stop is for your resort as it isn't the one you where you will be dropped off."

More than once I did see a bus (including ones I was on) come in as one resort's bus and leave as another. I was on a CBR one and when I got off it said Pop Century.

 

[Wiloughby1]

As someone else said, we have our reasons for having a larger stroller. I can assure you, if our priroity was ease of getting on and off of the buses, if we had to have a stroller, it'd be an umbrella stroller as you think it should be. But it's NOT our priority. For long days in the parks, I want my child to be comfortable. We also all have lots of things to carry w/ is that necessitate the larger stroller. And before anyone says all you need to bring is diapers, wipes and sun lotion... my DS is autistic. I already get the stares that we should have him walking a LOT more than he does, we also have to bring all of his food with becuase other than fries, there isn't a thing in the park he will eat. It's not a picnic for us either to have to lug large strollers, but it's what we have to have. We don't all choose these large strollers because we like collapsing and carrying them wherever.
*that said, we always rent cars because of all the stuff we have to bring. Despite having a car, did try a bus ONCE on a trip, just to try it . No thanks.

I totally agree. My son has sensory integration issues. He LOVES fireworks and parades, as long as he is snug in a stroller. I had 1 kid in diapers, one potty training, thus needing extra clothes. Plus a handful of healthy snack and water. In a cheapy umbrella stroller? The buses are 1 hour/day at MOST. I'm more concerned with the other eight. My kids have a fantastic time because I care about the park, not the transition. Double strollers are a blessing.

BTW- we only use the buses on off hours on nights without the kids when we want a drink. otherwise we drive for our own sanity.

Maybe, if that big mom would have just told her baby to stop crying and be a grown up. Don't infants KNOW better? Clearly she was deriving pleasure out of it. Maybe she pinched the baby to make him have a fit in a crowded place and likes kids' faces against her warm skin.

Peace out.

 

[ccgirl]

Last week, in the middle of our trip, we encountered the bus driver from hell. We had returned to our resort POFQ for an afternoon cool down. On our way to Epcot for the evening our bus made a run through Riverside. No problem...except the bus was nearly full at French Quarter.

The driver proceeded to make 3 stops at riverside. Stuffing more and more people into the bus. I counted 6 double wide strollers---the ones with the super deluxe all terrain wheels. It seemed that several guests were hell bent on spending several weeks at Epcot--based solely on the size of the backpacks and other items they were carring. All being stuffed into this one bus.

Several passangers had thier toes stepped on, children were squished under adults, several were crying. My son spent the entire ride to epcot trying to breath while having an obese womans belly shoved in his face while her baby drooled on him and sproadically kicked him just for grins.

During the ride one of the afore mentioned strollers fell on top of me. Then the driver decides to get everyone off the bus at the stop for POP. All the way at the other side of the bus stops. I have hip and knee problems which make it more difficult to walk. This is one of the reasons I booked the resort I did. The bus stops are closer to the gate. When I mentioned this to the driver while asking him why we were not at our stop---he actually looked at me and said "ya right"--as if I were lying to him. Then he proceeded to tell me to get off the bus.

Needless to say I went directly to guest relations and filed a report. We then headed into Epcot. We got to the world showcase--I pulled my camera out of my bag---which had been sitting on my lap---to find the screen had been shattered by the stroller that fell on me in the bus. Transportation told me to file a guest claim.

Today guest claims calls me to tell me that they are not responsible because another guest broke my camera. I told them that thier bus driver broke my camera by allowing more people on that bus than was safe. They decided they would pay me half of what my camera cost---as a goodwill gesture.

I have been going to Disney at least once a year for the past 15 years. This has made me realize that there is not enough Pixie dust in the world to make me continue. There was a thread on here a few months back about what would make me stop going---this is it. I have endured rate increases, lost reservations, over charges,and rude CM's but to actually be told that Disney is not responsible for the bus driver allowing to many people onto a bus is beyond belief to me. I have come to the conclusion that Disney can call you a guest but what you really are is cattle.

Thanks for letting me rant. I think I will start planning my next trip. Maybe I will go skiing.

I am not a big fan of the busses, or public transportation in general so I rent a car. WDW is not responsible for rude guests, or the weight of their guests for that matter. So, did they make you get on another bus to Epcot from POP? FWIW, it doesn't sound like the bus driver did let too many people on the bus, busses are often packed like sardines at prime times of the day such as park opening and park closing.

 

[ccgirl]

I don't mind playful babies, or even screaming babies on the bus, I do, however, object to a parent not carrying their baby in such a way that said child does not kick other children.
I just don't get the oversized suv stroller deal, it reminds me of people who cart huge carry ons on to planes and the whole plane has to sit and watch as they try to cram them into the overhead. A lightweight easily collapsed stroller seems like the smart choice to me, if only to make it easier for the parent hauling the thing on and off the buses, plus aren't the over the top ones a target for thieves when they are parked while the family does rides?
There are supplies and then there is packing like you're going on a multi-day expedition into the wilderness and I have seen the later.
I am concerned that over packing the buses may be a cost cutting strategy and if I wanted to experience the jammed public transportation to be had in some 3rd world countries I'd be visiting them. IMO, if the bus is so jammed that someone's stomach is pressing against someone's face, the driver has let too many people on the bus - we've all seen buses go by and not stop while we are waiting because they are full, or had a bus pull out while we were in line because it was full, sounds like this should have happened in this case.

Those smaller umbrella strollers have a lighter weight limit and do not recline. WHen my children were smaller I always brought strollers that reclined. As far as the public transportation in third world countries...I can assure you this is quite common in most big cities in the U.S. Public transportation is crowded. I have been on many a train and bus that were crammed in Boston and New York.

let me reiterate---we were sitting on the bench row of seats, not on a regular seat. The stroller was folded and leaning because the parent was trying to keep the children from being trampled--I do not blame the parent for trying to protect thier child--I also do not blame the parent for bringing a stroller. The stroller shifted and while I was trying to prevent another person from stepping on my feet, the stroller smashed into my bag.

I also have not boarded buses that were too crowded deciding to wait for a less crowded bus.

The child that was drooling on and kicking my son was not "playing" he was throwing a fit. As far as the obese woman, let me say that I am by no means a super model but I have enough sense not to get on a bus where my overly ample parts will be stuffed into someone else's face.

My rant/vent was not meant to rag on babies or strollers or fat people. And for the woman with scooter issue--I never even mentioned scooters. My rant/vent was targeted to the bus driver that thinks that all Disney guests should be treated like cattle. That even though people have gigantic backpacks and enormous strollers they still need to suck it up and move it down.

And besides all that, when did we become a society of people with no common sense. If you have 2 small children, an enormous backpack and a double wide super deluxe stroller why would you even try to get on a bus that is already full?

I guess at the same time we became a society of people that had the "me" menatlity and not to even mention the entitlement. Perhaps if you offered to help with the stroller it would not have smashed your bag?? It is not the bus drivers fault that the bus was crowded. It is how public transportation works. If you don't like it, rent a car or use taxi's.

The OP ride from hell on the Disney bus sounds like my everyday commute to and from work on the MBTA in the metro Boston area!! Each day I ride the Terror Train (also called the Green Line) so I am in tip top shape to face any issues a Disney bus ride can throw at me...its like being in boot camp training for 12 months before my annual 1 week vacation.

That is exactly what I was thinking. I used to commute to Northeastern University. I was had the ummm "pleasure" of riding the red, green and orange line all on one trip. I am very used to public transportation and it is the last thing I want on vacation so I rent a car.

 

[Port Orleans fan]

To OP:

You were saying that the driver dropped you (and others) off at the POP Century bus stop, which was too far for you to walk. So how did you get around Epcot?

Hopefully you had a scooter provided for you by Disney (at a cost of course).


Sorry to hear things did go well for you.

 

[Arielle22]

The OP ride from hell on the Disney bus sounds like my everyday commute to and from work on the MBTA in the metro Boston area!! Each day I ride the Terror Train (also called the Green Line) so I am in tip top shape to face any issues a Disney bus ride can throw at me...its like being in boot camp training for 12 months before my annual 1 week vacation.

When I was in high school I took buses and the red line to school (on early release took the green line as well). Now I take the commuter rail into Boston from the South Shore.

Whenever I read complaints about Disney buses I think that the posters must not use public transportation during every day life. Because public buses jam people on just the same way.

If a person thinks a bus on Disney property goes too fast they should try being on a T bus on the turnpike extension doing 65 mph and taking the off ramp (complete circle) in Allston while standing on a cramped bus and holding a 40 lbs bookbag.

I pay $220 a month for the privilege of late, broken, dirty commuter rail trains which are missing cars (4 instead of 5 or 6). If I am lucky I get a seatmate who has bathed that morning and is not drinking a hot beverage which then spills on me or my bag. People jam on the trains as well, standing not only in the aisle but in the crumple zone between cars (where they are not supposed to stand).

So for me, being on a packed Disney bus is still better than my daily commute!

 

[ccgirl]

When I was in high school I took buses and the red line to school (on early release took the green line as well). Now I take the commuter rail into Boston from the South Shore.

Whenever I read complaints about Disney buses I think that the posters must not use public transportation during every day life. Because public buses jam people on just the same way.
If a person thinks a bus on Disney property goes too fast they should try being on a T bus on the turnpike extension doing 65 mph and taking the off ramp (complete circle) in Allston while standing on a cramped bus and holding a 40 lbs bookbag.

I pay $220 a month for the privilege of late, broken, dirty commuter rail trains which are missing cars (4 instead of 5 or 6). If I am lucky I get a seatmate who has bathed that morning and is not drinking a hot beverage which then spills on me or my bag. People jam on the trains as well, standing not only in the aisle but in the crumple zone between cars (where they are not supposed to stand).

So for me, being on a packed Disney bus is still better than my daily commute!

Ding..ding..ding...we have a winner.

 

[CoachBagFanatic]

I remember back when our DS15 was little and used a stroller, we were never allowed to bring our stroller on the bus. They always made us put it in the storage bin under the bus.

 

[DisneyMim]

Thanks for the laugh and the memories. Back in the day I rode the "terror train" better known as the green line. I was actually in an accident. Well enough about that, on to Disney......

We ALWAYS rent a car. Yes I know that it costs more, but we just think it is part of our vacation. It's wonderful that Disney provides transportation, but really they don't have to, they could charge for it. We have used the buses a few times and don't like them. Yes they pack you in like cattle, etc. etc. We have a much better experience with our own car. Can come and go as we please, never have to stand, always have the right amount of air conditioning/heat, nice music, etc. etc. Maybe it's because I am from a busy city (Boston), but I know how much transportation costs and how unreliable it is. They pack people on the MBTA too so it's not just in Disney. I think the problem is that people have come to expect a lot from Disney. I agree with the other poster who said that back in the day we were NEVER allowed to bring strollers on the buses, and monorail. They had to be closed and the CMS would watch you do it and not let you on. A lot of things have changed and not for the better. I think the key to a good trip (and this is to Disney or anywhere else in the world for that matter) is to see what will work best for YOUR family and then do it. For ours a car is not a luxury, but part of our trips. It actually saves so much time as we never wait for a bus and our vacations are much more stress free. I understand that not everyone wants to rent a car, but the option is there. If you choose to use the Disney transportation option than you have to know that it is not your personal private mode of transportation. It is a mass people mover and it is not unlike any other big city.

Enjoy The Magic!!

 

[Maggie'sMom]

The OP ride from hell on the Disney bus sounds like my everyday commute to and from work on the MBTA in the metro Boston area!! Each day I ride the Terror Train (also called the Green Line) so I am in tip top shape to face any issues a Disney bus ride can throw at me...its like being in boot camp training for 12 months before my annual 1 week vacation.

When I was in high school I took buses and the red line to school (on early release took the green line as well). Now I take the commuter rail into Boston from the South Shore.

Whenever I read complaints about Disney buses I think that the posters must not use public transportation during every day life. Because public buses jam people on just the same way.

If a person thinks a bus on Disney property goes too fast they should try being on a T bus on the turnpike extension doing 65 mph and taking the off ramp (complete circle) in Allston while standing on a cramped bus and holding a 40 lbs bookbag.

I pay $220 a month for the privilege of late, broken, dirty commuter rail trains which are missing cars (4 instead of 5 or 6). If I am lucky I get a seatmate who has bathed that morning and is not drinking a hot beverage which then spills on me or my bag. People jam on the trains as well, standing not only in the aisle but in the crumple zone between cars (where they are not supposed to stand).

So for me, being on a packed Disney bus is still better than my daily commute!

Thanks for the laugh and the memories. Back in the day I rode the "terror train" better known as the green line. I was actually in an accident. Well enough about that, on to Disney......

We ALWAYS rent a car. Yes I know that it costs more, but we just think it is part of our vacation. It's wonderful that Disney provides transportation, but really they don't have to, they could charge for it. We have used the buses a few times and don't like them. Yes they pack you in like cattle, etc. etc. We have a much better experience with our own car. Can come and go as we please, never have to stand, always have the right amount of air conditioning/heat, nice music, etc. etc. Maybe it's because I am from a busy city (Boston), but I know how much transportation costs and how unreliable it is. They pack people on the MBTA too so it's not just in Disney. I think the problem is that people have come to expect a lot from Disney. I agree with the other poster who said that back in the day we were NEVER allowed to bring strollers on the buses, and monorail. They had to be closed and the CMS would watch you do it and not let you on. A lot of things have changed and not for the better. I think the key to a good trip (and this is to Disney or anywhere else in the world for that matter) is to see what will work best for YOUR family and then do it. For ours a car is not a luxury, but part of our trips. It actually saves so much time as we never wait for a bus and our vacations are much more stress free. I understand that not everyone wants to rent a car, but the option is there. If you choose to use the Disney transportation option than you have to know that it is not your personal private mode of transportation. It is a mass people mover and it is not unlike any other big city.

Enjoy The Magic!!

My DD and I were in Boston on vacation for a few days in August, and we used the T quite a bit to get around the city. I loved the convenience of the T, but I have to say it really made me appreciate the cleanliness of the Disney buses and monorails. We only rode once during the peak rush hour times, and we were squeezed far more than I ever have been on a Disney bus.

It's pretty obvious the OP has not ridden public transportation in any large city. He wouldn't be complaining so much if he had.

 

[POOHsie]

Last week, in the middle of our trip, we encountered the bus driver from hell. We had returned to our resort POFQ for an afternoon cool down. On our way to Epcot for the evening our bus made a run through Riverside. No problem...except the bus was nearly full at French Quarter.

The driver proceeded to make 3 stops at riverside. Stuffing more and more people into the bus. I counted 6 double wide strollers---the ones with the super deluxe all terrain wheels. It seemed that several guests were hell bent on spending several weeks at Epcot--based solely on the size of the backpacks and other items they were carring. All being stuffed into this one bus.

Several passangers had thier toes stepped on, children were squished under adults, several were crying. My son spent the entire ride to epcot trying to breath while having an obese womans belly shoved in his face while her baby drooled on him and sproadically kicked him just for grins.

During the ride one of the afore mentioned strollers fell on top of me. Then the driver decides to get everyone off the bus at the stop for POP. All the way at the other side of the bus stops. I have hip and knee problems which make it more difficult to walk. This is one of the reasons I booked the resort I did. The bus stops are closer to the gate. When I mentioned this to the driver while asking him why we were not at our stop---he actually looked at me and said "ya right"--as if I were lying to him. Then he proceeded to tell me to get off the bus.

Needless to say I went directly to guest relations and filed a report. We then headed into Epcot. We got to the world showcase--I pulled my camera out of my bag---which had been sitting on my lap---to find the screen had been shattered by the stroller that fell on me in the bus. Transportation told me to file a guest claim.

Today guest claims calls me to tell me that they are not responsible because another guest broke my camera. I told them that thier bus driver broke my camera by allowing more people on that bus than was safe. They decided they would pay me half of what my camera cost---as a goodwill gesture.

I have been going to Disney at least once a year for the past 15 years. This has made me realize that there is not enough Pixie dust in the world to make me continue. There was a thread on here a few months back about what would make me stop going---this is it. I have endured rate increases, lost reservations, over charges,and rude CM's but to actually be told that Disney is not responsible for the bus driver allowing to many people onto a bus is beyond belief to me. I have come to the conclusion that Disney can call you a guest but what you really are is cattle.

Thanks for letting me rant. I think I will start planning my next trip. Maybe I will go skiing.

Disney buses get packed to the gills all the time. You say you've been to Disney at least once a year for 15 years and you didn't know this? The bus driver was following orders and doing his job best as he could under the circumstances.

OP: You are definitely one who should be driven around in personal comfort. Take a car or a taxi. And I agree with you. Next trip, maybe you should go skiing, on your so-called bad hips and knees.

 

[ZZUB]

This thread is curious. Many people agree they don't want to crammed into busses on vacation. But I don't think it's fair to blame the other people on the bus. Some have suggested that people who step onto an already crowded bus are being selfish; they are a product of our "me first" society. I disagree. Those so-called selfish people are (just like the people already on the bus) just trying to get from their over priced hotel to the theme park they are itching to visit. While it is perfectly reasonable for someone to choose not to get onto a crowded bus, it is no less reasonable for a family to choose to board a bus when the driver is beckoning them to step on. (This is different of course from the family which insists on boarding even when the driver has told them the bus is full). It seems to me that for those already on the bus to accuse the new passengers of being selfish is hypocritical.

It is now part of the experience at Disney World that if you choose to ride the busses or the Monorail, you will be crammed in and most likely you will find yourself standing. The bus drivers and Monorail CMs are going to squeeze as many people on as possible b/c there are many, many people wanting to move around the property. I don't think we can blame other guests for wanting to use the same transporation we're using. However, I also don't think we can blame the poorly paid bus drivers and Monorail CMs for trying to accomodate as many people as possible. Can you imagine the outrage if busses left people behind b/c the driver didn't want people standing? For my taste, I'd prefer to be standing on a bus heading to the Magic Kingdom then sitting at a bus stop at AKL.

The problem lies with Disney's attitude towards its guests. They know guests will pay a premium to stay "in the magic." They know guests will accept all manner of inconvenience no matter what they've paid to be there. And Disney will continue to increase costs until they hit the tipping point. But although we find the bus system obnoxious, clearly Disney hasn't paid any price for it. People still come in droves. (See, for example: crowded bus, stroller falling on camera).

The solution for those people who hate being crammed in? Stop riding Disney busses. And if it aggravates you that you're paying more to stay on property for the convenience of Disney transportation, stop staying on property. And if the entire Disney experience feels like you're not getting sufficient bang for your buck, then vacation elsewhere. That is a perfectly reasonable response if you're unhappy with your experience.

But just don't blame the other people on vacation. It's not their fault. And they're not being selfish for wanting to get on a bus.

 

[Dizneefamily+4]

This thread is curious. Many people agree they don't want to crammed into busses on vacation. But I don't think it's fair to blame the other people on the bus. Some have suggested that people who step onto an already crowded bus are being selfish; they are a product of our "me first" society. I disagree. Those so-called selfish people are (just like the people already on the bus) just trying to get from their over priced hotel to the theme park they are itching to visit. While it is perfectly reasonable for someone to choose not to get onto a crowded bus, it is no less reasonable for a family to choose to board a bus when the driver is beckoning them to step on. (This is different of course from the family which insists on boarding even when the driver has told them the bus is full). It seems to me that for those already on the bus to accuse the new passengers of being selfish is hypocritical.

It is now part of the experience at Disney World that if you choose to ride the busses or the Monorail, you will be crammed in and most likely you will find yourself standing. The bus drivers and Monorail CMs are going to squeeze as many people on as possible b/c there are many, many people wanting to move around the property. I don't think we can blame other guests for wanting to use the same transporation we're using. However, I also don't think we can blame the poorly paid bus drivers and Monorail CMs for trying to accomodate as many people as possible. Can you imagine the outrage if busses left people behind b/c the driver didn't want people standing? For my taste, I'd prefer to be standing on a bus heading to the Magic Kingdom then sitting at a bus stop at AKL.

The problem lies with Disney's attitude towards its guests. They know guests will pay a premium to stay "in the magic." They know guests will accept all manner of inconvenience no matter what they've paid to be there. And Disney will continue to increase costs until they hit the tipping point. But although we find the bus system obnoxious, clearly Disney hasn't paid any price for it. People still come in droves. (See, for example: crowded bus, stroller falling on camera).

The solution for those people who hate being crammed in? Stop riding Disney busses. And if it aggravates you that you're paying more to stay on property for the convenience of Disney transportation, stop staying on property. And if the entire Disney experience feels like you're not getting sufficient bang for your buck, then vacation elsewhere. That is a perfectly reasonable response if you're unhappy with your experience.

But just don't blame the other people on vacation. It's not their fault. And they're not being selfish for wanting to get on a bus.

Well said!

 

[NewmanFamily6]

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience! Maybe after a break you will be able to find the magic again I for one have waited for many a bus since we have 4 kids so I can understand. We usually try to go straight to the very back seats as out of the way as possible. Mom doesn't like to feel too claustrophobic

 

[maxiesmom]

I have been on more overcrowded buses than I can count - we go to Disney multiple times per year. Overcrowded buses are just part of Disney - they try to get as many people on them as possible. Bus drivers routinely drop passengers off at stops other than their own resort stops - sometimes you get lucky and get a closer drop-off, sometimes one that is farther away.

Yep. Packed buses are just a part of a trip to WDW, as far as I am concerned. If I needed a lot of personal space I'd rent a car. I'm sure your camera was not smashed on purpose, and I don't think Disney is responsible for it. Though it does suck that it happened.

And pretty much every trip we are dropped off at the parks at a stop that is not our own. You can't depend on the bus stops even being the same from trip to trip. I understand trying to minimize walking, but the bus stops being shuffled around is common. I'm actually very suprised you haven't encountered it before.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

And pretty much every trip we are dropped off at the parks at a stop that is not our own.

In my experience when going on the bus from the Contemporary - Hollywood Studios in the morning before the park opened, the bus would always drop us off at the closest stop to front entrance.

However since I have started staying at the Boardwalk Inn and took their bus to the Magic Kingdom it has always dropped us off at the Boardwalk/Swan/Dolphin stop.