Disney Cover Up Exposed: 11-year-old girl molested on Disney Dream

[Lewisc]

Ok honestly THIS disturbs me more than anything else. Why in the world would you choose to stop the investigation on a man who ADMITS he molested your granddaughter? The only single reason I could see for that would be a sizeable pay off. That makes me pretty darn suspicious.

Suspicious of what? Disney decided the Bahamian authorities were the correct people to handle the case. Were the kid and grandmother expected to fly to the Bahamas? Their expense? What was the possible penalty?

Florida already said they could prosecute without the victims cooperation. Why aren't they?

Maybe a settlement is better for the child then going through a trial. My answer might be different if the case was being handled in the United States.

 

[Magic Fanatic]

I think there is more to this that is not known. In this day of questionable reporting of anything and everything, I am hesitant to accept that there is any kind of cover up. I am not questioning that something happened, just no willing to accept a reporters account of the details as fact.

 

[Lewisc]

Florida detectives were ready to investigate when the ship returned to Port. Disney had already paid to fly the perp back to India.

There are stills from the video on the web, complete with time stamps.

I know some posters don't want to believe it but all available facts support the OP.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-cops-girl-11-groped-report-article-1.1351027

You can google. The story is on multiple sites.

 

[hardrock01]

Sad JUST SAD

 

[FortForever]

When a child is victimized NOBODY has the right to decline prosecution, it is the Police's duty and responsibility to make an arrest, regardless of whether or not the grandmother wants to persue charges.
Victims have every right to decline to prosecute .... but the arrest must be made.

1.The point is Disney knew about the assault before even leaving port , yet let the cruise leave port without properly reporting the crime to authorities.
2.They let this guy continue to roam free on the cruise ship for 3 hours, before even questioning him.
3.They report the crime in the Bahamas, which is NOT even the proper jurisdiction, so they can't make an arrest, they have no authority. How convenient! This was not accidental, Disney knows what they are supposed to do, and didn't do it.

They were hoping it would go away.

I believe everything in this article indicates cover-up.

These are my thoughts exactly. You expressed them better than I could have.

Ok honestly THIS disturbs me more than anything else. Why in the world would you choose to stop the investigation on a man who ADMITS he molested your granddaughter? The only single reason I could see for that would be a sizeable pay off. That makes me pretty darn suspicious.

It disturbs me too. It's unfathomable to me. The only possible explanation is a pay off, but I wouldn't have taken it. She could have gone through with the prosecution and still get a settlement for the little girl.

It makes me to sick to think this sicko is going to get away with it. I'm sure it's not the first time, and just as sure it won't be his last.

Florida detectives were ready to investigate when the ship returned to Port. Disney had already paid to fly the perp back to India.

There are stills from the video on the web, complete with time stamps.

I know some posters don't want to believe it but all available facts support the OP.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-cops-girl-11-groped-report-article-1.1351027

You can google. The story is on multiple sites.

Disgusting and reprehensible.

This poor little girl did the right thing in telling right away. Didn't get her very far.

A perfect example of why kids, and even grown women, don't usually tell anyone. People just want to sweep it under the rug. And who ends up questioned and embarrassed? The victim.

 

[bocaj1431]

There was a post a few weeks ago that a mother asked. The post wanted opinions of others about whether it was wrong to leave a 10 year old outside on a bench while the rest of the family went on a ride. The ten year old would have to wait while the parents waited in the long line of a ride, then went on the ride which was in an enclosed building leaving her child all alone during this period of time.

Of course you can imagine the many varying points of view people had. I personally thought a 10 year old CHILD was to young to leave alone in a big place like disney. One of my points was that there are sick people in this world just looking to take advantage of situations just like the one she was creating.

The thing that struck me as ridiculous, was a few people posted that something like that could never happen at Disney and the other post was that in this day and age things like that don't happen that much anymore.

I really hope those people read this post. While it may seem our world is safe and things like that rarely happen, that is just not the case; and why would any one put a 10 year old at risk.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

I THINK IT IS A HUGE COVER UP !

1) The DCL should have called the Florida (FDLE) cops.
2) It was within the jurisdiction of FDLE.
3) I think DCL waited until 3-miles off coast
. . . the are in international waters
. . . they don't have to involve FDLE
. . . they don't rile current passengers
. . . they don't get immediate BAD PRESS after calling FDLE
. . . THE SHIP DOESN'T MISS THE SAILING TIME
4) I think the last two are the biggies.
5) The bad press on a Disney ship would have made national news.
6) The cops could have taken hours to investigate, and the sailing missed
. . . the cruise line could not afford a delay in schedule
. . . if there was a delay, word might have gotten out to current passengers
. . . there could have been major problems on-board with passengers

NOTE: I also think that DCL is covering it up, due to the changing
answers and stories they gave about the incident.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Shame they Disney just go out to sea and that night toss the ******* overboard.

AKK

 

[eadavis]

Shame they Disney just go out to sea and that night toss the ******* overboard.

AKK

Tonka, I love your perspective on these topics, what we're all thinking but don't say...

Just thinking out loud on this, they're saying cover up because of the timeline of things. Having been a duty manager at a few of the Disney resorts, there are a lot of moving parts, and its near impossible to know what's going on at every facet of the operation at the moment it happens. If I read the article correctly, it sounds like it was first reported to a dining manager. The paperwork and procedure are usually set for incidents like this, calling the authorities and security and beginning collecting information and statements. However, when on a boat, you have the added aspect that your "property" is also mobile.

In my opinion, I don't think anyone told the captain what they had going on down below, if they think its business as usual, they'll take off.

You may now tear this post to pieces...enjoy...

 

[Lewisc]

If I read the article correctly, it sounds like it was first reported to a dining manager. The paperwork and procedure are usually set for incidents like this, calling the authorities and security and beginning collecting information and statements. However, when on a boat, you have the added aspect that your "property" is also mobile.

In my opinion, I don't think anyone told the captain what they had going on down below, if they think its business as usual, they'll take off.

You may now tear this post to pieces...enjoy...

Not sure why so many posters are having trouble with the article. It was reported to guest services who then got security involved. The dining manager was brought in later to identify the perp from the video.

Security didn't call the proper authorities.

Throwing the guy overboard would be the ultimate coverup.

In another thread posters thought DCL should be screening passengers against sex offenders lists. Posters didn't agree when I commented the real issue is with the crew.

You can do a Google search. Cruise lines bury these kinds of issues all the time.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

lewisc

I know some posters don't want to believe it but all available facts support the OP.



Correct!

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Plus 1.

What a "magical" experience this was. Will Disney use this in their advertising? But what about the apologists? Is anything more sacred than maintaining the sanctity of Disney???

This is a serious matter and cheap remarks like this are really in poor taste.

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Tonka, I love your perspective on these topics, what we're all thinking but don't say...

Just thinking out loud on this, they're saying cover up because of the timeline of things. Having been a duty manager at a few of the Disney resorts, there are a lot of moving parts, and its near impossible to know what's going on at every facet of the operation at the moment it happens. If I read the article correctly, it sounds like it was first reported to a dining manager. The paperwork and procedure are usually set for incidents like this, calling the authorities and security and beginning collecting information and statements. However, when on a boat, you have the added aspect that your "property" is also mobile.

In my opinion, I don't think anyone told the captain what they had going on down below, if they think its business as usual, they'll take off.

You may now tear this post to pieces...enjoy...

1. You are correct it takes time to do what needs to be done in a investigation.

2. The vessel should not have sailed until the police or proper authorities were called. As a foreign flag vessel in a US port the jurisdiction changes from if this had happened ashore, but whether it required local or federal authorities, someone should have been called.

3. The Master KNEW about what was going on, maybe not all the details, but his action to sail was at best wrong!

4. There MAY have been legal requirements to fly the ******* to his home country, India.

5. This kind of horrific event can and has happened on all lines, but as a Disney fan I am particularly upset it happened to a child on a DVC vessel and the vessel sailed.

6. I stand by my first statement, if possible I would have preferred they had sailed out and that right dropped the ******* overboard.

Please realize I am talking as a Father and not a Ships Officer in making that statement.


AKK

 

[eadavis]

Not sure why so many posters are having trouble with the article. It was reported to guest services who then got security involved. The dining manager was brought in later to identify the perp from the video.

Security didn't call the proper authorities.

Throwing the guy overboard would be the ultimate coverup.

In another thread posters thought DCL should be screening passengers against sex offenders lists. Posters didn't agree when I commented the real issue is with the crew.

You can do a Google search. Cruise lines bury these kinds of issues all the time.

Thank you for clarifying...

It's a damn shame if there truly was a coverup, I thought those days were behind us. The aspect of law when it comes to cruise ships is interesting, ships are registered in other countries, crew is international, most of the time they are in international waters, a jurisdictional nightmare when something like this happens regardless of where the ship is as the time of incident.

This will run for a few days in the news and a week or so on here, then we will all forget about it. It's a serious issue, but as its been said many times, thieves and perverts are everywhere, you don't know who they are until they commit a crime and are caught. Like many though, I'm Infuriated when it involves the well being of a child.

 

[Magic Fanatic]

To clarify my earlier post, I am more concerned with the term "Cover Up". Was the situation handle improperly, maybe, possible, who really knows, but to imply Disney tried to cover something up seems to be a stretch. The woman reported the incident to guest services, guest services reported it the next level. Representatives took the family back to the elevator. Disney representatives reviewed security tape. The employee was relieved of duty. Once at the next port authourities were called. All of these steps involved bringing more and more people into the situation and I am sure would require large amounts of documentation. Who really knows how long the initiial investigation of this took before it made it to the level of the ships captain? Maybe the ship should have remained in port, but to say something was being covered up does not dove tail with the actions that even the reporter stated took place.

Again, I am not arguing saying that "nothing happened", but I am always scheptical of news accounts.

 

[GusGus77]

This definitely saddens me. I think Disney made a very bad decision not to notify Florida authorities. I would expect more from the company. I wish I could say it doesn't surprise me, but it seems that Disney doesn't always act with the integrity we would expect from a company of its caliber.

We cruise in November. I will definitely be talking to my children (3 and 5) about inappropriate touching before we sail!!! At least this article reminded me to do that, but I wish it wasn't necessary.

 

[alice99]

1. You are correct it takes time to do what needs to be done in a investigation.

4. There MAY have been legal requirements to fly the ******* to his home country, India.

AKK

Please tell me what type of legal requirement to send this guy home? Now it's Disney's responsibility to deport this guy??! You are letting your imagination get the best of you.
The ONLY thing security should have done is hand the guy over to POLICE for a PROPER, REAL investigation. Not the Disney SCAM "investigation"..
Really, what legal standing do Disney security guards have? Are they Police Officers??

This was CLEARLY swept under the rug, complete with shipping the perpetrator home before anyone (of any significant authority) interviewed him.

If people can't recognize that this is a cover-up then they have been brainwashed by the Disney machine.

 

[ParrotBill]

Clearly a case of "let's drag this out so the sailing is not delayed."

it is all too common for families to decline to pursue prosecution in cases like these, because they don't want the attention or think they are protecting the child from the trauma of reliving it or confronting the accused in court. that's why so many states have victims' laws that require prosecution.

This issue has extra sensitivity as the entire cruise industry is under fire for under reporting crime, especially sexual assaults committed by crew members. They have used the difficulty of jurisdictions and international waters as an excuse, and failed to report crimes against US passengers to US authorities when returning to port. They clean up crime scenes before arriving in ports.

US passengers who are victims of crimes on cruise ships should call 911 the moment they are in range of US cell phone signals or US territories... so the police meet the ship or arrive before it departs. There are no police on a cruise ship!

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Please tell me what type of legal requirement to send this guy home? Now it's Disney's responsibility to deport this guy??! You are letting your imagination get the best of you.
The ONLY thing security should have done is hand the guy over to POLICE for a PROPER, REAL investigation. Not the Disney SCAM "investigation"..
Rally, what legal standing do Disney security guards have? Are they Police Officers??

This was CLEARLY swept under the rug, complete with shipping the perpetrator home before anyone (of any significant authority) interviewed him.

If people can't recognize that this is a cover-up then they have been brainwashed by the Disney machine.

With all due respect, my mind is right where is should be referring to Maritime matters.

1. The vessel is a Bahamas registered vessel in a Bahamas port. Bahamas law prevails.

2. There is a crew contract that is written by foreign crewing services that MAY require the crew be returned to his home country for legal action.


Just for the record.......Please notice the MAY and please notice I never even so much as implied I agree with Disney actions.


There are still a good deal of details we don't know.

AKK

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Clearly a case of "let's drag this out so the sailing is not delayed."

it is all too common for families to decline to pursue prosecution in cases like these, because they don't want the attention or think they are protecting the child from the trauma of reliving it or confronting the accused in court. that's why so many states have victims' laws that require prosecution.

This issue has extra sensitivity as the entire cruise industry is under fire for under reporting crime, especially sexual assaults committed by crew members. They have used the difficulty of jurisdictions and international waters as an excuse, and failed to report crimes against US passengers to US authorities when returning to port. They clean up crime scenes before arriving in ports.

US passengers who are victims of crimes on cruise ships should call 911 the moment they are in range of US cell phone signals or US territories... so the police meet the ship or arrive before it departs. There are no police on a cruise ship!

The first time I don't know, however All the rest... correct!

AKK