DISGUSTING! How dare the police do this...UPDATE #70!!!

[kristen821]

Right. So, they were bad at it. If I go into a store and steal something for my friend and don't get any remuneration, am I not still a shoplifter? I did her a favor and got her the five-finger discount out of the goodness of my heart and expected no money in return. Does that excuse my shoplifting? Again, I don't think first time offenders should be ruined forever, but they're not innocent in all this.

I agree they aren't completely innocent, but they were charged with a major crime when it shouldn't had been major. They were asked by the officer to pick her up some drugs. If they are convicted they will be ruined. a class x felony does not look good on a record. Not having a diploma because you were in jail won't help either. Trying to explain on an application were you where for so many years. They don't deserve all that.

 

[AllyandJack]

I agree they aren't completely innocent, but they were charged with a major crime when it shouldn't had been major. They were asked by the officer to pick them up some drugs. If they are convicted they will be ruined. a class x felony does not look good on a record. Not having a diploma because you were in jail won't help either.

What they're charged with and how it all plays out in the end are different. The initial charges have very little to do with the final conviction and punishment. They have to be charged with the crime they committed on the books, but things will be taken into consideration during the process.

I'm more afraid they're going to be held up as victims and heroes and made to feel like they were done wrong instead of shown that what they did was wrong.

 

[Free4Life11]

Not sure what it matters if she was hot or not. They sold drugs and they got drugs from somewhere to sell to her.

I thnk it DOES matter. Based on the article, I just don't think they were doing this for money. Especially the comment about keeping money separate. I have a hard time believing they would do a favor for someone who was ugly, to be blunt.

 

[DawnCt1]

IMHO education is privlege, if you abuse it..it goes away. They obviously dont care about their education, so why keep trying. Let them fall, they will then, if they learn to care, pick themselves up

That line of thinking seems to make sense until you look at the nuts and bolts of it. High school drop outs or those who are faced with permanent expulsion without an educational alternative rarely make it back to school. They end up with no job or low paying jobs which may put them in the element that lead to their initial problems. A felony conviction, even with a good education in extremely limiting. It must be listed on every job application often with no statute of limitations. One of the issues of Port Security will be the background checks of many of the longshoremen who years ago had felony convictions, served their time and are now working in the only job that they can get that will support their families and pay the bills. They may lose them. A 17 or 18 year old with that baggage is almost doomed. One needs to look at what the goals are when they mount a sting such as this and not just notching their belts with the number of arrests they can get. How many of these kids wouldn't have gotton involved at all without an invitation? Of course they should have refused, resisted, walked away, etc but I guess that is why they are "kids" and not adults.

 

[WebmasterAlex]

What they're charged with and how it all plays out in the end are different. The initial charges have very little to do with the final conviction and punishment. They have to be charged with the crime they committed on the books, but things will be taken into consideration during the process.

I'm more afraid they're going to be held up as victims and heroes and made to feel like they were done wrong instead of shown that what they did was wrong.

I think that is EXACTLY the point. This will do nothing to reduce drug use at that school, they will not be looked on as pushers but as victims and heroes.

As for the $3500, you need to read between the lines. When the police obtain a search warrant for a house for drugs, they can search the entire house. I noticed the article did not say they found the money in the kids dresser drawer. It could have been the parents money for all anyone knows at this point. Once again we need to wait for the facts.

 

[kristen821]

IMHO education is privlege, if you abuse it..it goes away. They obviously dont care about their education, so why keep trying. Let them fall, they will then, if they learn to care, pick themselves up

What will happen to these kids when they become adults. They made a stupid stupid judgement call. We don't know if they were bad students or not. They may have been college bound. I know plenty of people that were stoners in high school that became very successful adult, but they all graduated high school.

 

[lillygator]

It's funny - people seem to think that only selling a small amount is not as bad as selling a large amount...it's still illegal drugs people.

These kids had every clue what they were doing and obviously with $3500 stash they were no angels, unless of course that was his allowance.

 

[lillygator]

but do we know the whole story? we all are assuming that the officer asked them to get her drugs and that was it? I bet there is a lot more to it. We all know how reliable the media is.
Speeding through a school zone is ticketed higher than speeding elswwhere, as is the drug issue...these boys also know that....

 

[lillygator]

A felony conviction, even with a good education in extremely limiting. It must be listed on every job application often with no statute of limitations. One of the issues of Port Security will be the background checks of many of the longshoremen who years ago had felony convictions, served their time and are now working in the only job that they can get that will support their families and pay the bills. They may lose them. A 17 or 18 year old with that baggage is almost doomed. One needs to look at what the goals are when they mount a sting such as this and not just notching their belts with the number of arrests they can get. How many of these kids wouldn't have gotton involved at all without an invitation? Of course they should have refused, resisted, walked away, etc but I guess that is why they are "kids" and not adults.

that's why kids must make a choice between right and wrong...what if one was drunk, drove, killed someone....should we say - oh they are 17 bad mistake...it was only their first time drinking...this on your record will really inhibit your life??? Come on....

 

[Planogirl]

Those who think that these kids should be thrown out of school, what do you suggest they do with their lives? Are you of the mindset that if someone, especially a kid, makes a mistake, that's it for them?

 

[DWDreams]

I'm quite certain there are educational alternatives for them. I can't believe some of what I'm hearing here. A crime is a crime regardless of who commits it. You get caught, you pay the price. Period.

 

[lillygator]

Are you of the mindset that if someone, especially a kid, makes a mistake, that's it for them?

This is not an error on a spelling test....they commited a crime....but I guess at least it wasn't coke or crack right? Do everyone honestly think these boys only did this for this one "student"?

 

[LindsayDunn228]

It's funny - people seem to think that only selling a small amount is not as bad as selling a large amount...it's still illegal drugs people.

These kids had every clue what they were doing and obviously with $3500 stash they were no angels, unless of course that was his allowance.

EXACTLY!!!!

 

[Tantor]

You know when she asked them to get the drugs they could have said "no" but they didn't. Book them Danno.

 

[Dznypal]

my blood boils when I read stuff like that!!!

its like-- kids will be kids and should be let go!!!

I have a friend that has 2 kids (actually they're 20 and 16) but with them my friend always had someone else to blame when her kids got into trouble it was never their fault)--she even went so far as saying that the school was out to get her DS in trouble.

(this is Milwaukee Public schools and they have enough troubles of there own with out getting some kid in trouble)

now my friend is paying the price--her DD is a high school dropout left when she was 14 she went 3 months of her freshman year and left--
has 1 kid by one guy--they broke up she hooked up with another--got PG by him--they broke up--she had an abortation--theyre now back together and shes PG again!! plus a number of encounters with the law!

DS is just as bad--got kicked out of 3 middle schools--and he got kicked out of high school so now hes home schooled!!! yeah like thats going to work

my point is that if these kids are made to stand up for what they did and take the punishment for their actions --and not to be made out like the hero--maybe just maybe theyll think twice next time--otherwise if its just a slap on the wrist--they wouldnt have learned anything and like my friends kids the trouble gets bigger and bigger

I think the OP was way off base--saying the cops shouldnt have done what they did --the kids shouldnt have done what they did!!!!

 

[LindsayDunn228]

they broke up--she had an abortation--

Sorry, can't help myself!

 

[Dznypal]

its just when Im heated about something my spelling isnt that good--

and Im to lazy to proof it

thanks for the correction

 

[canwegosoon]

You know when she asked them to get the drugs they could have said "no" but they didn't. Book them Danno.

THANK YOU...I don't know how big this school is..BUT there were apparently a lot of kids that didn't get her drugs. I'm not saying all are guilty or innocent-but at least a lot of students had nothing to do with it.

 

[DawnCt1]

that's why kids must make a choice between right and wrong...what if one was drunk, drove, killed someone....should we say - oh they are 17 bad mistake...it was only their first time drinking...this on your record will really inhibit your life??? Come on....

Not at all. There is a big difference difference in drunk driving, killing someone and being entrapped in a felony. No one is saying that they should avoid punishment but one needs to assess the situation before they discard them. The male brain is not fully developed until they are out of their teens. I have to question the wisdom of planting an adult law enforcement officer in a school, with all of the social skills that adults possess, for the purpose of enticing these kids to commit a crime, particularly a felony. In the end they are no closer to closing the deal on the drug dealers that continue to operate at will. A felony conviction is a life long burden and in a non violent crime for a first time offender, it seems a bit extreme, don't you think?

 

[drakethib]

Okay.

Maybe this will get some flame but so be it.

Yeah, I kind of see this as entrapment as I remember as a young lad at this age, when it came to attractive girls, my brain wasn't the organ that did the thinking a lot of times.

With that being said, drugs have no place in any schools and I for one am glad to see that the police are working to get the drugs out of the school.

When my daughter gets to be of school age, it would not bother me in the least to see police have drug dogs sniffing lockers on a daily basis. In fact, I hope this is the case.

I hope these young kids don't get slammed into jail as I don't think this is always the best answer all of the time, but they need to be punished accordingly and taught that drugs will not be tolerated.

My 2 cents.