DISGUSTING! How dare the police do this...UPDATE #70!!!

[~queenie~]

Maybe. Do you think she asked them if they had ever bought pot for anyone before and if they said, "no," she told them to forget about helping her? I doubt it.

so you thnk she just picked random boys and bugged them until they got her drugs?? why would she target those 8 boys?

 

[Nancy]

Everybody went through high school without even knowing anyone who knew anyone that sold pot
because IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!!

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I can in 100% honesty say that I did not know one single person that sold or even did drugs when I was in high school....there were rumors about some kids...but no one ever knew for sure if they were the truth or not...and the rumors were about the "bad" ones that no one wanted to be around. I was in my early 20's before I even saw my first joint...and that was at a concert where one was being passed around and I handed it over to the next person.


Edited to add: We all have to remember there are 3 sides to every story: yours, theirs and the truth. So far we have theirs and yours (the police and the kids) now we have to wait for the truth.

 

[wvjules]

All I was saying is they aren't drug dealers. Yes they should be punished for something, but not have thier lives ruined with a class x felony

Since when is selling drugs to another person not considered dealing?

 

[AllyandJack]

Watching the news this morning, I heard a story about some kids who broke into a water treatment plant and urinated in it. They shut down the water supply for days, cost numerous businesses thousands of dollars, and essentially shut down an entire town. I heard another story about some kids who stole a front-end loader and destroyed cars to the tune of thousands of dollars. There was yet another story about some kids who destroyed over 30 cars by slashing tires and breaking windows - for good measure, they broke into some houses and stole thousands of dollars worth of other peoples' possessions.

You know why? Because they know nothing will happen to them. They know people will cry out that we have to go easy on them because they're kids. They don't know any better. We can't punish them because it will upset their lives. I was a kid. You were a kid. Did you not know better? I sure did. I knew that slashing people's tires was wrong. I knew breaking into houses and stealing things was wrong. I think you did, too. I think you probably also knew that getting drugs for someone was wrong - whether you were "dealing" them or not. Why do we expect less from these kids?

If this was the inner city and the cop was on a street corner and the suspect was a 17 year old high school drop out, I wonder if there would still be the same outcry to not go hard on the kid. For some reason we have this idea that good kids who stay in school and come from good families shouldn't face consequences, but if this was a bust up on the corner in Dorchester, people would be applauding that the bad element was removed from the streets.

 

[crazee4mickey]

Yes I would, because I would rather the dealer in jail then the kid that got my kid what they asked for. I wouldn't be happy with them, but I would be more mad at my kid then them. I don't know if you read the second article that is posted on here, but if you didn't you might want to. I think webmasteralex posted it.

Read it, didn't change my opinion one little bit...I find it ironic that people complain when police don't do their jobs and then complain they didn't do it "right" when they do.....still glad they busted the kids...would have been nice to see the initial dealers go as well (and that may be yet to come) but a dealer is a dealer IMHO and am glad they are out of someone's school!

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

This is the high school in my home town, however I did not attend it but a few years ago Falmouth police did the same exact thing at the same exact high school but for a rape ring, which they did in fact find. Male students were raping multiple female students.
No parents argued that that was entrapment....so why argue this?

 

[C.Ann]

This is the high school in my home town, however I did not attend it but a few years ago Falmouth police did the same exact thing at the same exact high school but for a rape ring, which they did in fact find. Male students were raping multiple female students.
No parents argued that that was entrapment....so why argue this?

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Well I'm sure some people would be moaning, "Oh those poor babies.. Their lives are going to be ruined forever.. How dare they use a "hot" undercover cop.. These poor boys just couldn't control their hormones.."

How about the teenagers who go into cemeteries and cause thousands upon thousands of dollars in damages toppling headstones?

Or the ones that break into the schools to vandalize them costing millions of taxpayers dollars?

I know.. They're young and immature and just have NO idea that what they're doing is wrong or that they're breaking any kind of "laws"....

Do the crime, pay the time.. If a kid doesn't know the difference between right and wrong by 14, there's something seriously wrong with them..

 

[declansdad]

I'm sorry judge, the real pretty girl asked me to steal for her. I'm sorry but you know I am only a 16 year old boy and we will do anything for a pretty girl. I'll never do it again, I promise.

Come on.

I can't believe that people are even saying this! This is not a legitimate reason for breaking the law. It's not even a good excuse.

These kids broke a law and need to be punished for it and I don't mean a slap on the wrist. Some of you have said that it was only 31 transactions. That was with her, why do you assume that these would have been the only times they sold drugs. Where there is smnoke there is fire people.

The police acted reasonably, especially since there had been numerous complaints about drugs in this school. If you read the articles you will also see that they used an undercover operation in this school before so there is definitely a history with this school.

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

I'm curious to see whether this will be tried at the courthouse in Falmouth or whether they will take it to the county courthouse in Barnstable.

 

[Kimberly]

I once read a study was conducted with a similar sort of undercover sting involving a young female police officer going into a high school to try to bust out a drug ring in Altoona, PA. I don't certainly sympathize with the young men, however this is a form of entrapment.

Do you remember in high school when you would literally do ANYTHING for someone you liked? It really seems like the police went a bit too far with this one. If you want to keep drugs out of schools, keep them out of the community first by using this information to find out where ultimately they were getting it from. Arresting and charging these young men will not certainly stop it... they've only scratched the surface if these guys can get it that easily.

I'm sorry, but the police have their priorities dead wrong with this one. These young men should probably be expelled from their high school, but they were merely played as pawns.

 

[amid chaos]

I'm curious to see whether this will be tried at the courthouse in Falmouth or whether they will take it to the county courthouse in Barnstable.

Either way, I'd love to be a mouse in that courtroom.

 

[Mom2Ashli]

We had a speaker come to our School who happens to counsel kids who are in jail.

He said the first thing he tells these kids when he meets them is that you are here because you made the decision to be here. Nobody else can be blamed for you being here. You know what the things that he told us made it all clear.

He said it is like this.

E + G + R = O

E = Event. (getting punched in the nose, selling/buying drugs whatever the case may be.

G = GAP. The thought process on how we are going to deal with the event. (ie. punching someone back or buying or selling the drugs or just walking away from the situation)

R = Response. What we chose to do in the gap process.

O = Outcome. Getting in trouble for our actions.

THEY CHOSE TO DO WHAT THEY DID FOR WHATEVER REASON IT WAS.

He had allot of interesting things to say. And it really got thru to the kids in jail and turned some of them around. One kid killed someone because of a decision he made. NOBODY ELSE MADE THAT DECISION for him.

Why is this so hard to understand. They are kids who made bad choices for whatever reason and should now pay the price.

This also works for all situations. Makes you stop and think about the choices we make as Adults also.

 

[AllyandJack]

So because they can't get the people at the very top, they shouldn't be able to make any arrests at all? So, if we have the chance to capture some low level terrorists, we shouldn't waste our time because they're not the people at the very top?

 

[Kimberly]

We had a speaker come to our School who happens to counsel kids who are in jail.

He said the first thing he tells these kids when he meets them is that you are here because you made the decision to be here. Nobody else can be blamed for you being here. You know what the things that he told us made it all clear.

He said it is like this.

E + G + R = O

E = Event. (getting punched in the nose, selling/buying drugs whatever the case may be.

G = GAP. The thought process on how we are going to deal with the event. (ie. punching someone back or buying or selling the drugs or just walking away from the situation)

R = Response. What we chose to do in the gap process.

O = Outcome. Getting in trouble for our actions.

THEY CHOSE TO DO WHAT THEY DID FOR WHATEVER REASON IT WAS.

He had allot of interesting things to say. And it really got thru to the kids in jail and turned some of them around. One kid killed someone because of a decision he made. NOBODY ELSE MADE THAT DECISION for him.

Why is this so hard to understand. They are kids who made bad choices for whatever reason and should now pay the price.

This also works for all situations. Makes you stop and think about the choices we make as Adults also.

People make bad choices all the time, but these kids might not even have been dealers in this school. They probably just could have been friends with anyone who knew someone who did, just in hopes of "hooking up" with this pretty girl. My point is... these kids are getting these drugs from somewhere, but stopping some dealers in the school will not stop it. You have to cut the cord from the source, and these police are focusing on the wrong thing.

 

[C.Ann]

Do you remember in high school when you would literally do ANYTHING for someone you liked? It really seems like the police went a bit too far with this one.

I'm sorry, but the police have their priorities dead wrong with this one. These young men should probably be expelled from their high school, but they were merely played as pawns.

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And would you feel the same about the "rape ring"? How about if your DD was one of those who had previously been raped? And if you wouldn't feel differently, why not?

 

[Kimberly]

So because they can't get the people at the very top, they shouldn't be able to make any arrests at all? So, if we have the chance to capture some low level terrorists, we shouldn't waste our time because they're not the people at the very top?

The United States is notorious for using low level terrorists at Guantanamo Bay to get "higher intelligence" through untold means. If it means that you give these young men a plea bargain to get to the ultimate source of drugs for this school, by all means, give it to them.

 

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

Either way, I'd love to be a mouse in that courtroom.

Too bad I just had jury duty last summer! Darn!

 

[Mom2Ashli]

People make bad choices all the time, but these kids might not even have been dealers in this school. They probably just could have been friends with anyone who knew someone who did, just in hopes of "hooking up" with this pretty girl. My point is... these kids are getting these drugs from somewhere, but stopping some dealers in the school will not stop it. You have to cut the cord from the source, and these police are focusing on the wrong thing.

Exactly. They make a choice to sell drugs for a chance at hooking up. Now pay the price for the choice you made. Which happens to be a BAD choice.

Selling drugs is a chain and they need to cut the chains where they can. Like Teens selling drugs in school. It has to start somewhere to get to the top.

 

[AllyandJack]

The United States is notorious for using low level terrorists at Guantanamo Bay to get "higher intelligence" through untold means. If it means that you give these young men a plea bargain to get to the ultimate source of drugs for this school, by all means, give it to them.

I agree with that. Even gangsters are given deals.

 

[C.Ann]

You have to cut the cord from the source, and these police are focusing on the wrong thing.

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And I'll ask again - as I did several pages ago.. You know this how? Does your local police dept. make a point of announcing to the media what their next step is going to be in a situation such as this?