DISGUSTING! How dare the police do this...UPDATE #70!!!

[Kimberly]

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And would you feel the same about the "rape ring"? How about if your DD was one of those who had previously been raped? And if you wouldn't feel differently, why not?

I feel that the rape ring is justified. Obviously those young men were doing it, they have serious mental issues that need to be addressed. The only thing this holds in common with the drug sting was the fact that both are breaking the rules of our society. Drugs are becoming a serious issue in our country, and I believe we should employ any and all means to stop it at the source.

"The level of one's society depends on it's prisoners."

 

[DVC Sadie]

When parents continually make excuses for their childrens behavior, its easy for the children to blame others for their behavior. They were caught selling drugs to an undercover cop. Why shouldn't they be held accountable?

 

[Kimberly]

Now I'm not saying that these young men shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. But one should try to see this arguement from both sides of the fence. What if it was your son who got the drugs and tried to sell it to this pretty young woman?

 

[Mom2Ashli]

When parents continually make excuses for their childrens behavior, its easy for the children to blame others for their behavior. They were caught selling drugs to an undercover cop. Why shouldn't they be held accountable?

I would be more worried about why my kids knows where to get drugs of any kind. That would be my focus. Getting him help for the issues at hand.

 

[Mom2Ashli]

Now I'm not saying that these young men shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. But one should try to see this arguement from both sides of the fence. What if it was your son who got the drugs and tried to sell it to this pretty young woman?

I would tell him he made a bad choice. If you know that selling or getting drugs is wrong that I don't care if the QUEEEN OF ENGLAND asked for them you don't do it.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

Watching the news this morning, I heard a story about some kids who broke into a water treatment plant and urinated in it. They shut down the water supply for days, cost numerous businesses thousands of dollars, and essentially shut down an entire town.

Some people have demanded they charge the kids as terrorists. It was a terrorist act. HOSPITALS were affected by this. People could of died, and maybe they did, who knows. I agree with with this. No slap on the wrist, those kids knew full well that urinating into a public water supply went way beyond a prank. It was a criminal act, it was a terrorist act.

I know a vendor that comes into the store I work at, he lives in RI, and part of his town is supplied by Blackstone, and he knows a few guys who basically had to shut down their business for a week, and they will NEVER RECOVER financially.

Oh, but kids will be kids, and we all pulled a prank or two as a teenager, didn't we?

On the drug kids, to those who think it was entrapment because they used a pretty young girl, would it still have been entrapment if they put a male "jock" in the school, and they still got the drugs for him?

If the school has a history of putting undercover cops into it, then score one for stupidity on the kids part. I would be very leery of a "new" student looking to score drugs, if I was an otherwise inncocent kid, who just wanted to impress the new kid.

 

[In a hurry]

Now I'm not saying that these young men shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. But one should try to see this arguement from both sides of the fence. What if it was your son who got the drugs and tried to sell it to this pretty young woman?

I would be devestated.

A friend was charged with a felony as a teen (he blew up his buddy's mailbox) and it changed the course of his plans. Another friend couldn't become a doctor due to his being found with an ample personal supply of pot as a teen.

But, I wouldn't make excuses for my kids. Kids know about drugs from 1st grade and up. There is no cry of ignorance for the potential damage they can do, nor for the consequence of their use and dealing.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

I feel that the rape ring is justified. Obviously those young men were doing it, they have serious mental issues that need to be addressed. The only thing this holds in common with the drug sting was the fact that both are breaking the rules of our society. Drugs are becoming a serious issue in our country, and I believe we should employ any and all means to stop it at the source.

"The level of one's society depends on it's prisoners."

Drugs have also been used as a "defense" for serious crimes like rape.

Lawyer: "My client never would of done this horrendous act, if it weren't for the fact he was strung out"

So, what about the drug dealer who supplied the drugs, that sent the guy into a crime, like rape?

 

[AllyandJack]

If it was my son? Well, he would have spent the weekend in jail. Then, when he came home on Monday morning, he would wish he was still in jail. There would be no more public school and I'd have to convince DH that a private school with strict rules over a military school would be the best option and I'm not sure I could convince him.

I have a cousin who is into drugs and I will not tolerate any child of mine going down that path for any reason. If I give him a pass once, what's stopping him from doing it again? Hey, mom didn't care that I sold drugs.....Mom said it was the officer's fault....hey, mom, this officer caught me with a crack pipe in my pocket, but it's not my fault, I swear. No. That conversation will never happen. I will not be a mother to a clone of my cousin because HER parents gave her the old "oh, she didn't mean to do it...." and now she's a nightmare.

 

[DawnCt1]

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And would you feel the same about the "rape ring"? How about if your DD was one of those who had previously been raped? And if you wouldn't feel differently, why not?

Rape is a violent crime. I don't see how one has anything to do with the other.

 

[DawnCt1]

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And I'll ask again - as I did several pages ago.. You know this how? Does your local police dept. make a point of announcing to the media what their next step is going to be in a situation such as this?

What 'next' step can there be with these kids? I wouldn't let my child be an informant for the police after his face was plastered all over the evening news and the internet. If that was there intent, it should have been done quietly, individually and behind the scenes. The PD created a dog and pony show.

 

[DawnCt1]

If it was my son? Well, he would have spent the weekend in jail. Then, when he came home on Monday morning, he would wish he was still in jail. There would be no more public school and I'd have to convince DH that a private school with strict rules over a military school would be the best option and I'm not sure I could convince him.

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I have no problem with a kid spending the weekend in jail or wishing he was back there on Monday morning, but you do realize that if he were convicted of a felony there well may be no option of private school, not military school, definately not the military if he chose to enlist. Forget any profession dealing with health care, child care, teaching,etc. In fact, I am having a hard time thinking of a profession that would welcome a felon these days. Quite a burden to assume for being an idiot at 17.

 

[dwbakerjr]

Carla,

I too have kids in middle school; I too have relatives that havent concerned themselves with 'soft' drug use by kids...

All I can add to your post is is "A-freaking-men".

Whatever the price.. (and I mean WHATEVER), keep the boys from EVER considering drug use/sharing/selling/possessing...

They (drugs) are life wreckers...

G/Bless

 

[Mom2Ashli]

I have no problem with a kid spending the weekend in jail or wishing he was back there on Monday morning, but you do realize that if he were convicted of a felony there well may be no option of private school, not military school, definately not the military if he chose to enlist. Forget any profession dealing with health care, child care, teaching,etc. In fact, I am having a hard time thinking of a profession that would welcome a felon these days. Quite a burden to assume for being an idiot at 17.

That is exactly why it is so important for them to stop and think about the actions they take. They control their future.

 

[DawnCt1]

That is exactly why it is so important for them to stop and think about the actions they take. They control their future.

Of course they should have stopped to think but because they were stupid, should they be left with absolutely no future? What is the ultimate cost to society when teens get into their 20's with no future?

 

[AllyandJack]

I have no problem with a kid spending the weekend in jail or wishing he was back there on Monday morning, but you do realize that if he were convicted of a felony there well may be no option of private school, not military school, definately not the military if he chose to enlist. Forget any profession dealing with health care, child care, teaching,etc. In fact, I am having a hard time thinking of a profession that would welcome a felon these days. Quite a burden to assume for being an idiot at 17.

I guess after growing up in MA and being a lawyer in MA, I'm operating under the impression that none of these kids will actually be convicted of a felony (if drunk drivers and sex offenders aren't felons, I doubt these kids will get that type of conviction). I don't think they should be if it was their first offense. I do think that the idea that somehow the cop was wrong for making arrests and, at the very least, bringing it out to the school and parents that these kids bought and sold drugs is irresponsible. I've seen the results of that type of attitude. To see parents whose kids were arrested for buying and selling drugs saying their kids were done wrong is really scary. I lived that. I'm the one who has to take custody of my cousin's son when she takes off. I'm the one who has to watch him cry when he has to go back because her parents allow her to come home, her parents plead with the state to let her have her son because "it's not her fault", and the state listens to them.

My cousin had repeated drug charges and it hasn't hampered her in any way. In fact, she's a licensed pharmacy technician in MA. I'm not concerned that the kids' lives are going to be ruined by the judicial system, I'm more concerned about their lives being ruined by their own parents who seem to think their kids did nothing wrong and the cop is the one who should be in trouble.

 

[crazee4mickey]

.... I'm not concerned that the kids' lives are going to be ruined by the judicial system, I'm more concerned about their lives being ruined by their own parents who seem to think their kids did nothing wrong and the cop is the one who should be in trouble.

 

[lillygator]

Of course they should have stopped to think but because they were stupid, should they be left with absolutely no future? What is the ultimate cost to society when teens get into their 20's with no future?

why should they be....say I do something illegal at 25....I still have a "future" and thus on your logic should be given a break right?

Whether they are dealers or not....they broke the law, just as anyone speeding or any of the other million things out there. And we all don't know the extent of "dealings" these kids have/had...I would bet money that this was not the only person they were getting drugs for. They knew drugs are illegal....period. There is no excuse.

 

[Mom2Ashli]

Of course they should have stopped to think but because they were stupid, should they be left with absolutely no future? What is the ultimate cost to society when teens get into their 20's with no future?

I could ask the same question. What is the ultimate cost to society when they continue to make Stupid choices in their 20's?

Because they end up in jail as adults due to stupid mistakes. So I pay one way or the other for their Stupid mistakes.

 

[In a hurry]

Of course they should have stopped to think but because they were stupid, should they be left with absolutely no future? What is the ultimate cost to society when teens get into their 20's with no future?

Actually the two people I know have managed to survive...and thrive. One works in IT, and the other is the CFO of one of the major ski resorts.