Disembarking from bus

[delilah]

We visited Disneyland over spring break. I have an idle curiosity question for my fellow DISers regarding bus etiquette. The scenario is this: We were taking the bus from Disneyland parks back to one of the parking garages. We were staying off site, about 20 miles away, and happened to be parking in the garage for Grand Californian, because that is where we were told to park. At the end of the day, we got onto a bus that was packed, and we were standing (no problem with this, so far). The bus arrives at the parking garage, the only stop, everybody gets off here. We were standing toward the front of the bus.

My logic at this point is that those standing should get off first. It's like the elevators at the airport. You need to let those people off the elevator with their luggage first, before there is room for you and your luggage. So, you patiently wait your turn. But, apparently, that's not how it is in California, or at least, that's not how one of our fellow bus-riders felt. She started yelling at us that the people seated in the front rows (which we weren't standing in front of), should get off first.

We pretty much ignored her, and got off. We are quick people, and probably slowed her exist by 20 seconds at the most. But, we made sure that we went in the opposite direction, because that lady seemed to be a bit nuts. So, I ask my fellow DISers what they think, and will revise my behavior if it is felt we behaved inappropriately.

 

[all4disney98]

I agree with you. It is only common sense to let the people standing get off first. Seems like a lot of commotion to let the people sitting get up and get off first. Either way the people standing have to move out of the way to make that happen so why not have them just get off the bus...

 

[Lewisc]

You think everyone sitting on the bus should remain seated until all the standees disembark?

Sometimes a bus will empty from the front to the back. People standing in front of the first few rows will exit followed by the people sitting in those rows and so on. I wouldn't yell at anyone but I wouldn't go so far as to say there is a "right way". You have one idea the passenger sitting in the front of your bus has another idea. I would have stopped and let them off. It's not worth a fight and the person may have had a reason to get off quickly (bathroom).

 

[crashbb]

You think everyone sitting on the bus should remain seated until all the standees disembark?

Sometimes a bus will empty from the front to the back. People standing in front of the first few rows will exit followed by the people sitting in those rows and so on. I wouldn't yell at anyone but I wouldn't go so far as to say there is a "right way". You have one idea the passenger sitting in the front of your bus has another idea. I would have stopped and let them off. It's not worth a fight and the person may have had a reason to get off quickly (bathroom).

Totally agree. I would never assume that everyone sitting had to remain seated until everyone standing was off of the bus. The sitters usually stand up as the standers in front of them move off. Never really thought about it (or noticed it) before. It's never been an issue.

Not saying that you did - but I wouldn't assume that I could push past a sitter (who was closer to the door) simply because I was a stander. Like Lewisc, however, I wouldn't have said anything to you.

 

[shafke]

The rule of thumb I would use is that if someone is in front of me on the bus whether sitting or standing they go 1st.

If I am walking down the aisle and there is someone in the seats in front of me and they look like they are ready to leave (they are standing or have there stuff together) I let them go first. If they are still gathering their belongings then I go ahead of them.

 

[Lewisc]

Totally agree.

The rule of thumb I would use is that if someone is in front of me on the bus whether sitting or standing they go 1st.

Unfortuantely there isn't an option on the poll to reflect our opinion. I answered other but there really isn't an option that fits our answer.

 

[goofy4tink]

I may be having a 'senior moment' here, but I just don't see the issue. If there is an aisle full of people, standing on the bus, doesn't it just make sense for them to move off the bus first?? Do people really think that those who are standing should move aside and allow those sitting, on seats, behind them, to get off the bus first? Just doesn't make sense, logistically, to me.
As I see it....
the bus is full, people standing. The bus stops, people get to their feet. If there is no one standing in front of where you are seated, you get up and get off the bus. No...you don't sit there and wait for those who are standing further up from you to get off, but if there are people standing in your immediate vicinity, then yes, they should move off the bus, as you get up and follow behind.
Kind of seems like a tempest in a teapot to me.

 

[delilah]

In this particular instance, I was standing next to the seat in which the woman in question was sitting. I was holding the back of the seat in front of me. The bus was not "packed". As a matter of fact, I think my family of three were the only ones standing. The woman in question didn't get up before scolding us for heading toward the door. My son was already out the door, as were the people in the seat in front of this woman. Literally, it took her longer to gripe about the situation than just to wait an extra fifteen seconds to let us pass in front of her.



It's just like on an airplane, except, of course, nobody is standing for the entire flight. Generally, the plane empties from the front, and each row follows the one in front of it. I am not a "pushy-shovey" type of person. I'll wait my turn. But, on the other hand, if it's my turn, I will take it.

 

[SuzanneSLO]

In this particular instance, I was standing next to the seat in which the woman in question was sitting. I was holding the back of the seat in front of me. The bus was not "packed". As a matter of fact, I think my family of three were the only ones standing. The woman in question didn't get up before scolding us for heading toward the door. My son was already out the door, as were the people in the seat in front of this woman. Literally, it took her longer to gripe about the situation than just to wait an extra fifteen seconds to let us pass in front of her.



It's just like on an airplane, except, of course, nobody is standing for the entire flight. Generally, the plane empties from the front, and each row follows the one in front of it. I am not a "pushy-shovey" type of person. I'll wait my turn. But, on the other hand, if it's my turn, I will take it.

You have to give my fellow Californians a little slack when it comes to bus ettiquete and parking at DL these days. Until recently, there would rarely have been an opportunity to ride a bus to a parking lot at DL unless you were a CM. Parking lots were either served by trams or were considered to be close enough to walk from (although you really needed rose closed glasses to think this was true of the Simba lot, which is South of the PPH on Disneyland Drive). About the only time you took a bus to the Park after parking was if the Park was incredibly busy and you had to park in the Buzz Lightyear lot off Harbor, South of Katella.

With the new construction at CA and the demolition of the Timon Lot, all bets are off and now it if common to park at Pumbaa or Gardenwalk and be bused to the Park. Most visitors diring from the south on a weekend will end up in one of these lots.

Not sure where the OP parked, as the GCH has no parking garage, just a surface lot. It might have been the DLH convention garage.

-- Suzanne

 

[crashbb]

In this particular instance, I was standing next to the seat in which the woman in question was sitting. I was holding the back of the seat in front of me. The bus was not "packed". As a matter of fact, I think my family of three were the only ones standing. The woman in question didn't get up before scolding us for heading toward the door. My son was already out the door, as were the people in the seat in front of this woman. Literally, it took her longer to gripe about the situation than just to wait an extra fifteen seconds to let us pass in front of her.



It's just like on an airplane, except, of course, nobody is standing for the entire flight. Generally, the plane empties from the front, and each row follows the one in front of it. I am not a "pushy-shovey" type of person. I'll wait my turn. But, on the other hand, if it's my turn, I will take it.

In your first post you state:

At the end of the day, we got onto a bus that was packed

Now you say it wasn't packed. Which is it?

You say - " if it's my turn, I will take it." The point is, there are no rules about who gets off of the bus when, so it would be impossible to know when it it your turn to take. Obviously, the woman thought you were taking her turn.

And in your own scenario, the standers didn't get off of the bus before the sitters - you state that the people sitting in front of the woman were already off of the bus. So, those sitters must have gotten off before you did (since you were still on the bus) even though you were a stander.

Again, I would never had scolded you, but I may very well not have waited for you to get off of the bus before me.

I must admit though - your reply is making me feel that you just want everyone to agree that you were right and the lady was wrong. You aren't actually looking for the opinions of others.

 

[Inkmahm]

The rule of thumb I would use is that if someone is in front of me on the bus whether sitting or standing they go 1st.

If I am walking down the aisle and there is someone in the seats in front of me and they look like they are ready to leave (they are standing or have there stuff together) I let them go first. If they are still gathering their belongings then I go ahead of them.

Yup. Same method I use for getting off of a plane.

As such, I voted "something else."

 

[bavaria]

The International Law of Bus Etiquette dictates the following

• the passenger who needs to puke/pee/poop most urgently may exit the bus first
• for all other passengers, common sense and common courtesy prevail
• should you find that you have misplaced your common sense (or common courtesy), please stay seated until all other passengers have disembarked. You will then be free to disembark

no, I didn't bother to vote in the poll, Mom

 

[dudspizza]

The International Law of Bus Etiquette dictates the following

• the passenger who needs to puke/pee/poop most urgently may exit the bus first
• for all other passengers, common sense and common courtesy prevail
• should you find that you have misplaced your common sense (or common courtesy), please stay seated until all other passengers have disembarked. You will then be free to disembark

no, I didn't bother to vote in the poll, Mom

This gets my vote. Common Courtesy can go a long way with everyone in this world.... too many people have none. Just an observation of people in general, not anyone on this particular thread.

Now, if any of you could come ask the football team parents to kindly park in the parking lot of the school instead of in front of my house. A little common courtesy is in order around here!

Duds

 

[delilah]

You have to give my fellow Californians a little slack when it comes to bus ettiquete and parking at DL these days. Until recently, there would rarely have been an opportunity to ride a bus to a parking lot at DL unless you were a CM. Parking lots were either served by trams or were considered to be close enough to walk from (although you really needed rose closed glasses to think this was true of the Simba lot, which is South of the PPH on Disneyland Drive). About the only time you took a bus to the Park after parking was if the Park was incredibly busy and you had I to park in the Buzz Lightyear lot off Harbor, South of Katella.

With the new construction at CA and the demolition of the Timon Lot, all bets are off and now it if common to park at Pumbaa or Gardenwalk and be bused to the Park. Most visitors diring from the south on a weekend will end up in one of these lots.

Not sure where the OP parked, as the GCH has no parking garage, just a surface lot. It might have been the DLH convention garage.

-- Suzanne

I guess then that the Californians would have to cut travelers from out of state some slack. It was only our second time in California. The first time we went to the Rose Bowl, and didn't go to DL at all. We went to DL on three different days this trip, and parked a different place each time. Really, I was was traveling to California to attend a conference in San Diego, and we took an extra three days to visit the LA area, too. So, we usually got totally lost and turned around every day. The last day, we parked where we were left off by Downtown Disney. We probably could easily have walked from wherever we had parked, except we had no idea which direction to walk, so, we followed the crowd and took the bus. The one day I know we parked in the Timon lot, and took a shuttle. Another day, we took a different shuttle to a different lot, which name escapes me. But, this lot, where we were left off at Downtown Disney looked like it was within easy walking distance of Grand Floridian.

 

[bavaria]

I guess then that the Californians would have to cut travelers from out of state some slack.

There are approximately 36,756,666 Californians. It is necessary (or sensible) to paint them with such a broad brush and make such a generalization? I hardly think that one person represents 36+ million people, just as this website does not represent the greater US population.

I have to agree with crash, Mom, Lewis and Duds on this subject.

 

[DisneyWalker44]

I'm not 100% clear on the scenario here. But I will say that if I'm seated at the front of the bus, and somebody is standing in the middle of the bus, I'm not going to remained seated and wait for them to walk off the bus. I'm going to stand up and leave.

 

[delilah]

I'm not 100% clear on the scenario here. But I will say that if I'm seated at the front of the bus, and somebody is standing in the middle of the bus, I'm not going to remained seated and wait for them to walk off the bus. I'm going to stand up and leave.

Sounds like a plan to me. Go for it.

 

[delilah]

In your first post you state:



Now you say it wasn't packed. Which is it?

You say - " if it's my turn, I will take it." The point is, there are no rules about who gets off of the bus P, the woman thought you were taking her turn.

And in your own scenario, the standers didn't get off of the bus before the sitters - you state that the people sitting in front of the woman were already off of the bus. So, those sitters must have gotten off before you did (since you were still on the bus) even though you were a stander.

Again, I would never had scolded you, but I may very well not have waited for you to get off of the bus before me.

I must admit though - your reply is making me feel that you just want everyone to agree that you were right and the lady was wrong. You aren't actually looking for the opinions of others.

If you aren't an attorney, it sounds to me like you have possibly missed your calling. It's not necessary to adopt such an adversarial stance with a person (me) that you don't know and probably will never meet. Really, face to face, I am a very nice, polite, quiet, and small woman. The fact that I am a practicing physician also is evidence that I am quite intelligent, as well.

I am also a mom. My young son was already off the bus in a strange city 1800 miles from home. You yourself state there are no set rules for getting off the bus. The woman in question was seated, was not getting up, and was taking offense, from my perspective, because I didn't back up to let her off the bus first, when I was already standing up.

Actually, I don't see myself as painting "Californians" with a broad brush, so to speak. I am not so narrow minded or ignorant that I could possibly think that all "Californians" are alike, no more than I would think that all "Chicagoans" or "Floridians" or "Hoosiers" or "Ohioans" are alike, to name four of the places I have lived in my lifetime. I know that none of these places have "cookie cutter" residents, so why would California be any different. I have to say, however, that the nicest, friendliest and most pleasant people I have lived with are the Ohioans.

 

[bavaria]

You have to give my fellow Californians a little slack when it comes to bus ettiquete and parking at DL these days.

I guess then that the Californians would have to cut travelers from out of state some slack

In case you did not realise it from her post (or her username), Suzanne lives in CA. She is also one of the most polite, reasonable posters here, and she took the time to explain that using a bus has not always been the norm at DL (And she is right; I tend to walk to DL even though I usually don't even stay at the Disney hotels)

Unless you had further conversation with the person on the bus, there is no way for any of us to know her place of origin or current state of residence. It really has no bearing on the subject, or the original question.

The same encounter could have been had in almost every other state, I would surmise.

I may be having a 'senior moment' here, but I just don't see the issue. ...

Kind of seems like a tempest in a teapot to me.

I believe that a few posters, including our esteemed moderator, just don't understand the upset. If the person made you feel bad, or embarassed you, that's unfortunate, but I don't really understand why it needs to start a debate.

As I said earlier, common sense and common courtesy should prevail, and there may well be differing outcomes in differing situations.

 

[aubriee]

I may be having a 'senior moment' here, but I just don't see the issue.
Kind of seems like a tempest in a teapot to me.

Same here! I don't get the big deal. If someone is in front of me and trying to get off the bus (whether they are sitting or standing), then I wait.

If they are just sitting there talking to a family member, don't look like they are getting their stuff together, and are not looking like they are getting ready to stand up and get off, then I walk off. If they are getting their stuff together and/or starting to stand up, then I wait. It's just the polite thing to do and not a big deal.