Direct Sales Feb 2025

[mamaofsix]

Kind of surprised that it will take over 3 years for Poly to sell out at this pace. Likely more than the 38 months if sales slow down.

With them offering Magical Beginnings so soon after the opening of sales, it seems as though sales are not doing as well as they expected.

IMO, the less than appealing structural architecture, sub-par views from many rooms, and high point chart are all contributors. Given the choice - even with Magical Beginnings, I would choose Riviera if picking between the two. Even with restrictions.

 

[DVCsloth]

Kind of surprised that it will take over 3 years for Poly to sell out at this pace. Likely more than the 38 months if sales slow down.

With them offering Magical Beginnings so soon after the opening of sales, it seems as though sales are not doing as well as they expected.

IMO, the less than appealing structural architecture, sub-par views from many rooms, and high point chart are all contributors. Given the choice - even with Magical Beginnings, I would choose Riviera if picking between the two. Even with restrictions.

For me, as soon as Disney announced it would be part of the existing association, I was out. As far as the tower goes, it looks incredible to me, and I would have expected the high point charts. Great location, although much too busy of a resort for my taste.

 

[mamaofsix]

For me, as soon as Disney announced it would be part of the existing association, I was out. As far as the tower goes, it looks incredible to me, and I would have expected the high point charts. Great location, although much too busy of a resort for my taste.

Yes, it seems the tower itself is similar to Bay Lake Tower - you either like the boxy modern style, or you don't. Judging by the fact it's not selling like hotcakes, I am wondering if there are more people in the "don't like it" camp than Disney expected.

ETA: Which makes me a little worried for Lakeshore Lodge, as that seems to be the architectural style they're going with there, too.

 

[Sandisw]

For me, as soon as Disney announced it would be part of the existing association, I was out. As far as the tower goes, it looks incredible to me, and I would have expected the high point charts. Great location, although much too busy of a resort for my taste.

That is what took it off our list because we’d want it for the larger rooms and too many points given the ratio.

I does seem like we are seeing the same thing that we saw for VGF and even VDH…initial sales were stronger due to those who were waiting, and now we are seeing the buyers who are newer and weighing choices.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Doesn't in already have one?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondola

 

[Girlstar30]

Thanks for the recommendation, going to put it on my list! The menu looks delicious!

Yes. It’s amazing.

 

[Tatebeck]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondola

Gotta admit I was confused as well since I thought "it has one already!"

Since gondola can both mean a boat and an enclosed car suspended from a cable.

IDK why two very different things have the same name lol

 

[AstroBlasters]

Gotta admit I was confused as well since I thought "it has one already!"

Since gondola can both mean a boat and an enclosed car suspended from a cable.

IDK why two very different things have the same name lol

Don’t get me started on read (active tense) read (past tense) and red (color)…..

 

[BrianLo]

For me, as soon as Disney announced it would be part of the existing association, I was out. As far as the tower goes, it looks incredible to me, and I would have expected the high point charts. Great location, although much too busy of a resort for my taste.

It’s the combination into one association for me as well. Not that I’m into direct points. Ironically I’d feel more motivated to own there (directly) if it was a separate (and restricted) association.

For me, I’d rather buy RIV resale than Poly direct, because at least there is major upfront cost savings there.

Instead though, I’ll wait for Poly Resale to come down to earth and maybe buy something very small… or get completed distracted by Lakeshore Lodge, even more likely.

 

[Girlstar30]

It’s the combination into one association for me as well. Not that I’m into direct points. Ironically I’d feel more motivated to own there (directly) if it was a separate (and restricted) association.

For me, I’d rather buy RIV resale than Poly direct, because at least there is major upfront cost savings there.

Instead though, I’ll wait for Poly Resale to come down to earth and maybe buy something very small… or get completed distracted by Lakeshore Lodge, even more likely.

I wish we could somehow see LL before riv sells out to see if I want that instead

 

[BrianLo]

I wish we could somehow see LL before riv sells out to see if I want that instead

I am a man of privilege and own a swath of 11 month windows now. If you own a swath, RIV is a very good one to get location wise. +/- how young you are and your feelings on 2042 expiry options. Which we’re unfortunately hitting the point where you can only have 15 years of points on some of those.

 

[Girlstar30]

I am a man of privilege and own a swath of 11 month windows now. If you own a swath, RIV is a very good one to get location wise. +/- how young you are and your feelings on 2042 expiry options. Which we’re unfortunately hitting the point where you can only have 15 years of points on some of those.

Now that we own an animal kingdom resort area one and a mk area one we would love an epcot one to complete the circle. I just turned 40 so hopefully i live long enough for that whole Riv contract my wife is in her 30's so we definitely don't mind the longer contract

 

[Brian Noble]

I wish we could somehow see LL before riv sells out to see if I want that instead

There will always be a resort you like better. Buy when you are ready to buy.

 

[Cfabar1]

I think the points chart hurts in a number of ways. It is tough to justify buying a 25 point contract at the poly unless you’re buying direct points to use as SAP points or top off your existing membership.

The points chart tells me that in practice they anticipate most customers being studio users.

 

[Jlo85]

There will always be a resort you like better. Buy when you are ready to buy.

We never talk about the opportunity cost of a new resort coming along that you like better ...

And if resale restrictions start having more of an impact on market value (which I would predict as more resorts have them), it may make it harder or more expensive to "trade up" to the resort you want...

I actually think about this a lot regarding 2042 resorts. I could see DVC offering existing owners attractive incentives to "renew" their DVC deed in advance. All speculative, but that's the nature of opportunity cost I guess.

 

[Sandisw]

It’s the combination into one association for me as well. Not that I’m into direct points. Ironically I’d feel more motivated to own there (directly) if it was a separate (and restricted) association.

For me, I’d rather buy RIV resale than Poly direct, because at least there is major upfront cost savings there.

Instead though, I’ll wait for Poly Resale to come down to earth and maybe buy something very small… or get completed distracted by Lakeshore Lodge, even more likely.

This got me thinking…we talk about the impact on restrictions for RIV sales.

But, I wonder if the fact that resale can be had cheaper if that isn’t playing some role in why the sales for PVB, have been good but not out of the park great?

No way to ever know…but I think it goes to show that there will always be pros and cons of decisions DVD makes!

 

[maui22]

Might sale numbers for any specific WDW resort right now be impacted by there being multiple WDW active resorts? I think the last time there was only one active resort was RIV (CCV sold out around time it went on sale). Wasn’t it solo until VGF2? Then RIV solo for short time until CFW followed by PVB2?

 

[BrianLo]

This got me thinking…we talk about the impact on restrictions for RIV sales.

But, I wonder if the fact that resale can be had cheaper if that isn’t playing some role in why the sales for PVB, have been good but not out of the park great?

No way to ever know…but I think it goes to show that there will always be pros and cons of decisions DVD makes!

Yes, that is definitely the theory behind restrictions. It should cause direct points to sell better, not worse. Because guests balk at the resale option as inferior.

My theory on why DVD chose to stick with the same association, was they thought they could move more points to the existing Poly owner base due to unit diversity. I don't think it materialized as strongly as they hoped. Opening existing membership sales were weak.

I definitely think membership want it - restrictions - to fail because they are definitely not consumer forward. But the evidence everyone is after doesn't and shouldn't exist. They made restrictions so more people would actually want direct points. Riviera is just the resort to blame by going first.

The tail end of Poly sales might be interesting, because I expect the gap between direct and resale prices of that product to slowly widen the next few years.

 

[Brian Noble]

We never talk about the opportunity cost of a new resort coming along that you like better ...

It's not that hard to get seven-month bookings. I just had a waitlist come through for a long weekend at Poly for Columbus Day.

Riviera is just the resort to blame by going first.

 

[Sandisw]

Might sale numbers for any specific WDW resort right now be impacted by there being multiple WDW active resorts? I think the last time there was only one active resort was RIV (CCV sold out around time it went on sale). Wasn’t it solo until VGF2? Then RIV solo for short time until CFW followed by PVB2?

When BLT went for sale, IIRC, SSR and AKV were still in active sales..

So, there has always been some overlap…but I think that it appears that maybe DVD is liking having options…as they include sold out resort specials now more than they used to…and that it’s about total sales vs each individual one?