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[londontime]

Does the Old East end have better bagels than the New East end and is the Old East end east or west of the New East end.

Yes, and West. But both very good questions. And unfortunately for you, I have a spare 5 mins to tell you why. Sorry

The best Bagel shops in London, IMVHO, are about 4 doors away from each other, on a street call Brick Lane.

Brick Lane is in Shoreditch, which is within the District of Hackney that is adjacent to the actual City of London. The bits that are very touristy (Buckingham Palace, Parliament (Look kids)) are actually in Westminster. Dogsbodies of East London such as myself consider the "Old" East End from the Eastern Edge of the City (Aldgate, Bishopsgate, i.e the actual old Gates to the walls of London) to the Bethnal Green, Stepney and Mile End area, which was historically where the very poor of London lived. The new East end is everything East of that, so West Ham, East Ham (Where I'm from), Canning Town, basically a lot of Hamlets of the Thames, which, back in the day, were fields and farms. So that's the Old/New East End bit done with. Some refer to the Old East End as the 'Proper' East End.

Onto the Bagels.
In the 17th/18th Century the East end was where a lot of the Fashion Clothing trade was, due to the Docks in the East End bringing in cotton and goods from various colonial territories that shall remain nameless, and the proximity to the lucrative City Market, which was the centre of the universe at that time. This coupled with persecution in Eastern Europe, led to a lot of Jewish tailors to set up in the East End, and you can still see the "Hugenot" houses in Shoreditch and Whitechapel where they had windows on the top floor to make the most of the light. The Jewish community moved up to North London to a large extent in the early 20th Century, around Golders Green and Muswell Hill, but there are still some cracking Jewish bakeries in our neck of the woods. Good Jewish Bakeries = Good Bagels.

When I win the lottery, or retire, I want to be one of those walking guides around the East End.

 

[AirGoofy]

Lots more science here. We've had extra lockdowns the past month with school and restaurant closures. And, just as we reached new highs for # of cases and # of deaths, the Governor reported restrictions are working so we are lifting most of them on Monday. I sure am glad I didn't go into a science career, as it doesn't make sense to me.

Top O the Mornin Dads! As some of you have read on the other place, I'm cancelling for DDCC9 with all that is going on and considering family and work situations. It sucks, but not seeing DD and SIL at all for the holidays sucks more but we have a lot more holidays and DDCC events to look forward to. At the end of day all good and it is what it is. Stay safe and keep enjoying the holiday time.

Great to hear Dan, early Christmas present for sure

TWSS

Sorry to hear it. As it stands, DDCC isn't scheduled at a convenient time. I don't see us taking a family vacation then, and unless I'm living near WDW, I don't see me making a solo trip. Maybe things will change in the future. This year's summer trip was certainly one for the memories.

I try not to concern myself too much with dotting every i in the larger universe. At its core, we're watching a show about people who fight each other with laser swords.

For me, the Star Wars has the same appeal as Westerns, except for the starship. The good guy (jedi) rides into town and defeats the bad guy against all odds. I don't try to breakdown the movies, compare against the books, or scan for Easter eggs. So, when something is so big it jumps out at me, I can't help it.

How did you manage that!?!? Impressive!

I guess Doc used his IT skills and cleared my record.

Actually, I know I'm not dangerous enough to anyone to matter.

All good.
May this work out well for you.

Thanks. My plan is to stick this one out for the year, assuming the world doesn't end for another catastrophe.

Thanks for all the pictures. I like the museum, but I'm partial to boats.

 

[declansdad]

Yes, and West. But both very good questions. And unfortunately for you, I have a spare 5 mins to tell you why. Sorry

The best Bagel shops in London, IMVHO, are about 4 doors away from each other, on a street call Brick Lane.

Brick Lane is in Shoreditch, which is within the District of Hackney that is adjacent to the actual City of London. The bits that are very touristy (Buckingham Palace, Parliament (Look kids)) are actually in Westminster. Dogsbodies of East London such as myself consider the "Old" East End from the Eastern Edge of the City (Aldgate, Bishopsgate, i.e the actual old Gates to the walls of London) to the Bethnal Green, Stepney and Mile End area, which was historically where the very poor of London lived. The new East end is everything East of that, so West Ham, East Ham (Where I'm from), Canning Town, basically a lot of Hamlets of the Thames, which, back in the day, were fields and farms. So that's the Old/New East End bit done with. Some refer to the Old East End as the 'Proper' East End.

Onto the Bagels.
In the 17th/18th Century the East end was where a lot of the Fashion Clothing trade was, due to the Docks in the East End bringing in cotton and goods from various colonial territories that shall remain nameless, and the proximity to the lucrative City Market, which was the centre of the universe at that time. This coupled with persecution in Eastern Europe, led to a lot of Jewish tailors to set up in the East End, and you can still see the "Hugenot" houses in Shoreditch and Whitechapel where they had windows on the top floor to make the most of the light. The Jewish community moved up to North London to a large extent in the early 20th Century, around Golders Green and Muswell Hill, but there are still some cracking Jewish bakeries in our neck of the woods. Good Jewish Bakeries = Good Bagels.

When I win the lottery, or retire, I want to be one of those walking guides around the East End.

 

[Captain_Oblivious]

When I win the lottery, or retire, I want to be one of those walking guides around the East End.

I'd take that tour.

Have a great weekend, everyone!

 

[GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes]

Cool pictures Rob.

If you ever get up to Portsmouth, New Hampshire, you need to check out the USS Albacore.

Oh, that one is most certainly on the list.
Just got'a find find time and resources for the excursion.
(and preferable I need to have both at the same time)

it's a William J Lapedomane kinda day today here.

Which version?
The "Work, work, work, work..." version or the "Affairs of State..." version?

Good clarification

I do know's me my history.

(It's one subject where back in school teachers were known from time to time to check with me for clarification on a particular point. Not a good thing actually as it often resulted in various types of abuse from the other students afterward).

Oh, it's a real page turner.

Sound's better then most of the movies produced in the last twenty years.

Kinda along the lines of hitting someone with a wet noodle vs nunchucks.

Point taken.
But any implement headed in that particular direction would still be categorized as: Not Good.

So at least we get the satisfaction of being right. Not that we can rub it in, or anything.

Says who?
I intend to make mine utterly miserable with my lack of sympathy.

I'm enjoying them. It's about as close as I can get to traveling for the time being.

Close as most of us are getting to it.

Hey, I saw that!


...from the interstate.

Yep.
And now you don't have to make the return trip.
The rest of the family will be pleased by that developmental, I'm sure.

Which, of course, stands for Never Eat Moldy Walrus.

Nice!
I'll be submitting that one to the memorial's preservation committee.
I s'pect they'll be right impressed with your code breaking abilities.

But both very good questions. And unfortunately for you, I have a spare 5 mins to tell you why. Sorry

Way better then my lectures.
If you got another five minutes here and there, I'd like to hear more.

Thanks. My plan is to stick this one out for the year, assuming the world doesn't end for another catastrophe.

I figured that was the general.
May things calm down enough for that plan to work.

Thanks for all the pictures. I like the museum, but I'm partial to boats.

Oh, dear.
You shouldn't-a, hadn't-a, oughtn't-a said that...

 

[GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes]

More ship pictures!
Ain't y'all just the luckiest blokes on the boards?



One the sets of turbine that got this beast moving back in the day.




And not far away, home sweet home for some the crew that worked that space. Now, when the ship carried a full compliment, those racks would all likely have been stacked five high, as opposed to the palatial amount of space each man had under this layout.




These were interesting.
I'd never seen or heard of them being used on other ships at the time, so they might be unique to the Bamma.



Replacement barrels for the 40mm AA guns.
The curved structure in the back ground is part of the barbette for the No-2 16' turret (what the RN would have called "B Turret" the the Kriegsmarine would have referred to as "Brunno" - just to add to the useless knowledge factor). We'll be heading inside that structure in a moment here.



Inside the 16' magazine for Turret-2. The green/yellow paint on the shells in the foreground identify them and being "HC" shells which translates to "High Capacity" which actually means: High Explosive. However...
The blue paint peeking out underneath along with the dummy fuse caps lead me to think that they're actually repainted inert target practice shells (also known as BL&P shells). Now the Black ones in the background though, do appear to be the Armor Piercing type that they are claiming to be. At better then a ton apiece, they would certainly lay down a smidgen of hurt upon any adversary that they managed to reach.



Farther down in the magazine and you reach the powder handling room.
Each of the three silk bags there in the lift contained 50kg of powder (that's 110 lbs to us Yanks) and they'd load up to six of them into each gun depending on the shell being fired.


Heading back topside, I'll toss out a few more images.



The view forward from the 06 level...



Downtown Mobile, in the distance, a Carnival Line cruse ship and a BUF.




Some of the armor that is also on display on site.



And a shot of the ol' gal's dance card.

Enough for now, more latter on.
(and yes, that could be interpreted as a threat).

 

[pkondz]

Lots to catch up on!

Hey pkondz, do you know how to keep a Canadian in suspense?

Notice how I didn't answer this right away?
Were you waiting? Hmmmmm????

Butt (borrowing you spelling here), being as we are discussing something that ought to be universally mark: Exit Only...

Does it really matter what implement was used?
I mean, assault is assault regardless.

What's an "ault"??

New Orleans may be renowned for Mardi Gras, but it was Mobile that first started throwing a big yearly shindig just before lent.

Really! Had no idea.

As you can see (apart from the oversized jesters) even the building was somewhat interesting.

Anyway, getting back to the museum itself. It was a decent little distraction and there were a few interesting things to see...

Cool place. I'd check it out.

Remember, I did warn you...

More like "I did promise you cool photos".
Thanks for delivering.

So welcome aboard BB-60:

Cool! I've been on a carrier (once. Midway) but never a battleship. Bucket list.

Nice shot.

A nice shot of a couple of the starboard 5"/38-cal twin mounts.

Like that shot!

Huh? Did you say something?

Nope! Some other guy.

Well, to an extent, yes
Finger or thumb, not so much.
Baseball bat....most definitely would matter.

Kinda along the lines of hitting someone with a wet noodle vs nunchucks.

Still waiting...

I'll just be another second...

Which, of course, stands for Never Eat Moldy Walrus.

This is accurate.

I guess Doc used his IT skills and cleared my record.

Actually, I know I'm not dangerous enough to anyone to matter.

That's exactly what someone dangerous would say!

And not far away, home sweet home for some the crew that worked that space. Now, when the ship carried a full compliment, those racks would all likely have been stacked five high, as opposed to the palatial amount of space each man had under this layout.

And possibly hot racked as well?

Replacement barrels for the 40mm AA guns.

Huh! Never thought of that.

Now the Black ones in the background though, do appear to be the Armor Piercing type that they are claiming to be. At better then a ton apiece, they would certainly lay down a smidgen of hurt upon any adversary that they managed to reach.

I'll have to remember to duck if one comes my way.

Some of the armor that is also on display on site.

Lots of stuff around there. Impressive.

 

[londontime]

Morning boys from a murky London. Guess where I was at 0730 this morning?

(The one I go to is actually the one with the White Sign)

A lil' bit of London facts to keep you all on the tour. See the traffic lights? The yellow glow behind it? Turn left there, and that's Hanbury Street, where Annie Chapman, the 2nd of Jack the Ripper's victims was found. Stick with me, and I'll show you all the cool stuff (I heard you Americans tip heavy. But I heard the Canadians are even more generous.)

Which version?
The "Work, work, work, work..." version or the "Affairs of State..." version?

Jus' a little of both, my friend.

Way better then my lectures.
If you got another five minutes here and there, I'd like to hear more.

No, your presentations have cool military stuff. I can bore you for 2 hours on the horrendous infliction of homelessness and depravation the Railways Act in the mid 1800s did on the East End of London. Ask my kids. Or the Lady K.

It's one subject where back in school teachers were known from time to time to check with me for clarification on a particular point.

One of my mates used to live in California, and when his young un was set an essay to write about the Second World War, which according to her teacher, started in 1941, he popped into the school for a smidgen of "frank clarification".

I'd take that tour.

One day, my friend. One day. It will be a very long day. With a lot of drinking. And maybe Steaks. And to be honest, the street above is where we would end up at 2am, hammered and hungry, looking for a salt beef bagel to soak up the booze. We'll leave the ladies in the Wine bar with the nippers.


Have a super cali day chaps.

 

[Cinderella's Fella]

Notice how I didn't answer this right away?
Were you waiting? Hmmmmm????

 

[AirGoofy]

I figured that was the general.
May things calm down enough for that plan to work.

I'm free and clear of the Retirement Board in a year, well, a year from my retirement date. So, if I don't like the job or the travel, then I can find something closer. There's still that back-up plan to win the lottery.

More ship pictures!
Ain't y'all just the luckiest blokes on the boards?

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Inside the 16' magazine for Turret-2. The green/yellow paint on the shells in the foreground identify them and being "HC" shells which translates to "High Capacity" which actually means: High Explosive. However...
The blue paint peeking out underneath along with the dummy fuse caps lead me to think that they're actually repainted inert target practice shells (also known as BL&P shells). Now the Black ones in the background though, do appear to be the Armor Piercing type that they are claiming to be. At better then a ton apiece, they would certainly lay down a smidgen of hurt upon any adversary that they managed to reach.

Think I can get a box of those shells, and the gun that fires them?

That's exactly what someone dangerous would say!

Then my plan worked.

 

[declansdad]

Morning All

Quiet morning so far, snow on the way for later tonight so I may need to fire up the snowblower tomorrow.

One week of work left (officially) for 2020. It will be nice to see it end and hopefully get home for a couple of days to visit with my parents.

Great history lesson this morning Dan and thanks for the picture of the Old East End. You can easily see the difference from the New East End.

 

[pkondz]

Morning boys from a murky London. Guess where I was at 0730 this morning?

Work? Home? Somewhere in between?

(The one I go to is actually the one with the White Sign)

This is false advertising.

A lil' bit of London facts to keep you all on the tour. See the traffic lights? The yellow glow behind it? Turn left there, and that's Hanbury Street, where Annie Chapman, the 2nd of Jack the Ripper's victims was found.

Huh!

I wouldn't go there if I was you. Doesn't sound safe.

Stick with me, and I'll show you all the cool stuff (I heard you Americans tip heavy. But I heard the Canadians are even more generous.)

Depends on the Canadian.

Most of us... yes! Nearing retirement aged teachers? No.

One of my mates used to live in California, and when his young un was set an essay to write about the Second World War, which according to her teacher, started in 1941, he popped into the school for a smidgen of "frank clarification".

I'm free and clear of the Retirement Board in a year, well, a year from my retirement date. So, if I don't like the job or the travel, then I can find something closer.

One year isn't bad. This one... is it just me? Or are the days crawling, but the year seems to have somehow gone by unnnoticed?

Quiet morning so far, snow on the way for later tonight so I may need to fire up the snowblower tomorrow.

I keep looking at them in the stores. But... I can't quite bring myself to pull the trigger and get one. Realistically, I'd only use it... hmm... maybe 3-5 times in a normal winter? And of those, probably only really need it 1-3 times. The rest I just shovel and it's easy enough.
Still... as I get older, those "easy enough" ones become less common.

Great history lesson this morning Dan and thanks for the picture of the Old East End. You can easily see the difference from the New East End.

Stop looking at his end.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

Mornin', Gents! Whoa! Where'd that come from?! I'm so use to posting in the morning that automatically typed "Mornin'..." Gotta watch that. Anyways, I'm still here. I've been spending most of my time on the computer lately either looking for work online, applying for jobs, tweaking my resume (I have a couple different versions), writing and tweaking cover letters, and just when I think I'm all set...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz And then there's the honey due list...which thankfully the DW hasn't been bugging me on because I'm spending so much time looking for work. I did manage to reopen my unemployment claim from when I was let go from my law firm position in September....so there's that. I applied to a job with the court system for something I've done for 13 years, though I suspect I'll be over qualified for that one and won't get a call...but let's hope. Otherwise things are going well. Thankfully this time I haven't crawled back into my head for a bit of depression. As much as I'd love to have a job right now, being let go from my temp job was a bit of a blessing. I've been concentrating on finding something in the medical field, and I'm even working with a recruiter right now to help me. Yeah, I know...I just said I applied to a court job, but I do need a job, and that's one I could walk into and not have too much training on. I've also taken the time to edit some photos I've been holding of on, so I've been having fun with that as well. I'll post a couple....yes, that's a threat. Randall's already seen one one of them, so now you guys will get the pleasure.

This is East Bay, Osterville, MA



This is Long Beach, Centerville, MA



An old post.


Now on to catching up.....


Oh, one more thing...GO NAVY!!!! BEAT ARMY!!!! Army/Navy game of 2020 starts at 3pm! Can't wait!

Good luck on the job search.

Thanks

And we definitely spend too much on food.

We don't...though if I'm out on my own I'd come up with an excuse to get take out or something.

Didn’t want to rub it in...

Survived the process...
They found a couple of minor spots, but once the pathology is done, They're likely to be a none issue.

Minor is good, and let's hope they'll be nothing.

I have great ideas for snow photography. Unfortunately, I had them in the summer and are all forgotten now. Yesterday, I had a great idea for a summer photo...

I have a good one as well, but it would require me to head out to a village center at night to accomplish, and I'm not sure I want to do that when it's snowing.

On a positive note, the boy was negative on his test, so we are back out into the wild.

That's good to hear!

I would cook your Turkey for longer to avoid a Brown Christmas.

Mmmm crispy turkey skin....

Morning all. My fingerprint background check returned clear, so I begin working Monday at 10 AM. Two more days until I come out of retirement - again.

That's awesome!

And they probably don't listen to you either.

Before FIL retired, the employees were union and they all met for discussions on the contract. He said that towards the end when he was one of the old guys, he would try to be the voice of reason for the younger workers. They would trade most anything for a quarter more an hour, including things like time off, insurance, etc.

My mom would voice her opinion towards the end of her teaching career, and many of the younger teachers didn't listen to her either.

How did you manage that!?!? Impressive!

I'm thinking some kind of shenanigans were happening there.

Having nothing better to do at the moment...
I think I'll toss out some more images from our 2018 road trip down to the gulf coast (and if you feel like you can't scroll by this mess fast enough, just wait till the next post and I'll really bore y'all to death)

Anyway, We headed back toward home from Nola via Mobile, AL.
New Orleans may be renowned for Mardi Gras, but it was Mobile that first started throwing a big yearly shindig just before lent. But we'd missed both parties by this time of the year, so we settled on a stop at a small museum dedicated to the history of it...

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As you can see (apart from the oversized jesters) even the building was somewhat interesting. It was also in the midst of the old residential area and right across from a right pretty public square...



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Anyway, getting back to the museum itself. It was a decent little distraction and there were a few interesting things to see...

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We rather liked the dragon.
Here's a closer look at his eye...

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Most of the rest of the place was dedicated to costumes and the elaborate coronation attire worn by past kings and queens of the festivities. As such, I've decided not to bore y'all too much with that kind of thing. Especially as I have better things with which to bore you.

Love the pics, man.

Be afraid...
Be very afraid...

Bring it on!

Remember, I did warn you...
Except maybe for our resident tenor, most of y'all may want to be scowling by this one.

Post hast.

You see, there's a historic ship down in Mobile.
And if you know anything about me, you can guess that I wasn't going to be passing by that without climbing aboard (and dragging my DW along for the trek through every compartment, passage way and up and down every ladder that that wasn't chained off and marked "No Admittance").

So welcome aboard BB-60:

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Otherwise known as the USS Alabama.

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A USN South Dakota Class Battleship commissioned in mid 1942 as the Second World War was just getting underway (from the US perspective, that is).

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The signal flags there are her radio call sign:
November - Echo - Mike - Whiskey

(although during the time this ship was in fighting trim, the mates in the radio shack at the time would have said: Nan - Easy - Mike - William, but I'm more use to the modern NATO signals, myself).


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A nice shot of a couple of the starboard 5"/38-cal twin mounts.



Not to be confused in any way with the nine 16"/45s in the main turrets...

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To me the interesting part of old ships like this is that they don't necessarily look "old". Not on the outside at least. It's only when you get inside and see the controls and living spaces that you get a sense of their vintage...

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Well, I've hit hit ten picture limit.
I'll post more tomorrow, so be prepared to ignore 'em.

Love the pics, man! She's a grand ol' lady....though someone needs to polish that bell.

For me, the Star Wars has the same appeal as Westerns, except for the starship. The good guy (jedi) rides into town and defeats the bad guy against all odds. I don't try to breakdown the movies, compare against the books, or scan for Easter eggs. So, when something is so big it jumps out at me, I can't help it.

My dad loves looking for small mistakes and Easter eggs in movies....he'll even rewind a movie and show you if he's watching it on DVD.

I guess Doc used his IT skills and cleared my record.

I KNEW IT!!! Shenanigans!

Actually, I know I'm not dangerous enough to anyone to matter.

I'm keeping an eye on you.

More ship pictures!
Ain't y'all just the luckiest blokes on the boards?

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One the sets of turbine that got this beast moving back in the day.


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And not far away, home sweet home for some the crew that worked that space. Now, when the ship carried a full compliment, those racks would all likely have been stacked five high, as opposed to the palatial amount of space each man had under this layout.


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These were interesting.
I'd never seen or heard of them being used on other ships at the time, so they might be unique to the Bamma.

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Replacement barrels for the 40mm AA guns.
The curved structure in the back ground is part of the barbette for the No-2 16' turret (what the RN would have called "B Turret" the the Kriegsmarine would have referred to as "Brunno" - just to add to the useless knowledge factor). We'll be heading inside that structure in a moment here.

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Inside the 16' magazine for Turret-2. The green/yellow paint on the shells in the foreground identify them and being "HC" shells which translates to "High Capacity" which actually means: High Explosive. However...
The blue paint peeking out underneath along with the dummy fuse caps lead me to think that they're actually repainted inert target practice shells (also known as BL&P shells). Now the Black ones in the background though, do appear to be the Armor Piercing type that they are claiming to be. At better then a ton apiece, they would certainly lay down a smidgen of hurt upon any adversary that they managed to reach.

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Farther down in the magazine and you reach the powder handling room.
Each of the three silk bags there in the lift contained 50kg of powder (that's 110 lbs to us Yanks) and they'd load up to six of them into each gun depending on the shell being fired.


Heading back topside, I'll toss out a few more images.

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The view forward from the 06 level...

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Downtown Mobile, in the distance, a Carnival Line cruse ship and a BUF.


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Some of the armor that is also on display on site.

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And a shot of the ol' gal's dance card.

Enough for now, more latter on.
(and yes, that could be interpreted as a threat).

Love the pics...and bring it on!

 

[declansdad]

Oh, that one is most certainly on the list.
Just got'a find find time and resources for the excursion.
(and preferable I need to have both at the same time)

I've got some pictures somewhere, I'll post a couple if I find them.

 

[pkondz]

Mornin', Gents! Whoa! Where'd that come from?! I'm so use to posting in the morning that automatically typed "Mornin'..." Gotta watch that.

And yet... does he correct himself? Noooooooo

Thankfully this time I haven't crawled back into my head for a bit of depression.

This is East Bay, Osterville, MA

Picturesque

An old post.

People need to stop posting old posts.

I have a good one as well, but it would require me to head out to a village center at night to accomplish, and I'm not sure I want to do that when it's snowing.

Bundle up. Off ya go!

though someone needs to polish that bell.

TWSS

 

[GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes]

What's an "ault"??

Do believe that'd be placed under the heading of:
a "smart..." question.

Cool! I've been on a carrier (once. Midway) but never a battleship. Bucket list.

I've been aboard four of them thus far.
(and let me apologize up front for what's about to happen here...)


There are eight open to the public in the US with varying degrees of access to the internal compartments and spaces. The ones that have been in public hands longer have more areas that are open and can be explored. Alabama is a good one to see from an access standpoint. Her sister, Massachusetts, and also the North Carolina (which I've been aboard) are excellent museums as well having much to interact with. The Texas is the only remaining "Dreadnought" type battleship left anywhere, but is currently closed as they are trying to do some serious referb and basically save a ship that's been sitting in salt water for better then a century. The other four are the sisters of the Iowa class. I got aboard the Wisconsin on a trip we took to the Norfolk/Williamsburg area of Virginia (may have to post some of those pictures, cool stuff). Like the other three of the group, there's not as much of the ship opened up, but they're all a works in progress. The "Whisky" though is also part of a larger museum complex called Nauticus and as a whole the place is most excellent. That leaves the New Jersey (on the Delaware River across from Philadelphia), the Iowa (in the Long Beach area of CA) and the Missouri. That last one is in Pearl Harbor, Honolulu, moored just ahead of the wreck of the Arizona. Now, I've actually been aboard that one, but have never been to Hawaii. The story there is that for a good period back in the 80s, she was laid up in reserve at the Bremerton Navy yard in Washington State. I have an Aunt who worked many years for the WA State Ferry System. She knew folks over at the shipyard and when I was out there once we were able to get on board and walk around a bit. Nothing was accessible but the exteriors of the main deck and the 01 deck, but It was still cool to walk around at the time.

And possibly hot racked as well?

On that one, maybe. On anything smaller - say a cruiser, destroyer or an escort - it'd be dang likely (and on a sub, it'd be guaranteed).

Lots of stuff around there. Impressive.

And I've got more to show y'all too (least of which would be the entire other vessel open down there). The place actually surprised me with the some of the extra exhibits that I wasn't necessarily expecting. Bonus points for someone like me.

Morning boys from a murky London. Guess where I was at 0730 this morning?

Somewhere more interesting that where I was at that time.

No, your presentations have cool military stuff. I can bore you for 2 hours on the horrendous infliction of homelessness and depravation the Railways Act in the mid 1800s did on the East End of London. Ask my kids. Or the Lady K.

Naaaa,
I can do a lot of that kind of stuff as well (just ask my wife and young'en).

The US did a lot of similar stuff, but we refereed to them as the Interstate and Highways act and the general concept of Urban Renewal.

One of my mates used to live in California, and when his young un was set an essay to write about the Second World War, which according to her teacher, started in 1941, he popped into the school for a smidgen of "frank clarification".

Good for him.

History is generally taught rather badly, and most folks also suffer from only seeing it from a very local point of view. If it didn't effect "us" directly (or worse, shows "us" is a less then heroic light), it gets rather glossed over. Great things have been done all over the world throughout time, but awful things and grim consequences have always accompanied them. People don't want to hear about that so much.

Think I can get a box of those shells, and the gun that fires them?

Actually...
Yeah, you could, but...
Beyond the gun itself, the shells are legally categorized as being a "Destructive Device" and these require both a federal permit and that you live in a state which allows its citizens to own said type of devices. You'd also have to pay a fairly hefty tax on each of the individual shells. Then there's the minor problem of finding some that are actually for sale...

Thankfully this time I haven't crawled back into my head for a bit of depression.

That is a good thing.
May that continue long term.
(and my I join you in not dwelling there)

This is East Bay, Osterville, MA

This is Long Beach, Centerville, MA

An old post.

Purrty...
Excellent shots there, sir.

She's a grand ol' lady....though someone needs to polish that bell.

Yeah, They really ought to pull that one down and pay it a bit of attention.

It's one of several apparently as there is also one out front that you can lay a hand one (a tradition of mine actually)...



But I've read that the original may be located in the Hampton Roads Naval Museum (another spot I need to get to).

 

[pkondz]

Morning folks.
It's too dang early on a Sunday. May go for a run to get the motor started. Haven't decided yet one way or another.

Do believe that'd be placed under the heading of:
a "smart..." question.

(and let me apologize up front for what's about to happen here...)

You're forgiven. Actually, that was a darned interesting read...

There are eight open to the public in the US with varying degrees of access to the internal compartments and spaces. The ones that have been in public hands longer have more areas that are open and can be explored. Alabama is a good one to see from an access standpoint. Her sister, Massachusetts, and also the North Carolina (which I've been aboard) are excellent museums as well having much to interact with. The Texas is the only remaining "Dreadnought" type battleship left anywhere, but is currently closed as they are trying to do some serious referb and basically save a ship that's been sitting in salt water for better then a century. The other four are the sisters of the Iowa class. I got aboard the Wisconsin on a trip we took to the Norfolk/Williamsburg area of Virginia (may have to post some of those pictures, cool stuff). Like the other three of the group, there's not as much of the ship opened up, but they're all a works in progress. The "Whisky" though is also part of a larger museum complex called Nauticus and as a whole the place is most excellent. That leaves the New Jersey (on the Delaware River across from Philadelphia), the Iowa (in the Long Beach area of CA) and the Missouri. That last one is in Pearl Harbor, Honolulu, moored just ahead of the wreck of the Arizona. Now, I've actually been aboard that one, but have never been to Hawaii. The story there is that for a good period back in the 80s, she was laid up in reserve at the Bremerton Navy yard in Washington State. I have an Aunt who worked many years for the WA State Ferry System. She knew folks over at the shipyard and when I was out there once we were able to get on board and walk around a bit. Nothing was accessible but the exteriors of the main deck and the 01 deck, but It was still cool to walk around at the time.

All of that was good but a few things stood out.
1. Had no idea there were 8.
2. It took me a second to figure out "Whisky" was "Wisconsin"
3. There's one in Long Beach... dammit!!! I was there! Twice!!!
4. Was going to see the Missouri when we went to Oahu. But our flight got delayed and we had to cancel everything on the first day. Pearl Harbor was the casualty.
5. Cool story about your visit there!

On that one, maybe. On anything smaller - say a cruiser, destroyer or an escort - it'd be dang likely (and on a sub, it'd be guaranteed).

I keep learning stuff.

And I've got more to show y'all too (least of which would be the entire other vessel open down there).

Ooohhh... I will refrain from googling to keep the surprise.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

Good morning, Gents from a wet Cape Cod. Rained all day yesterday, so it was a good day to stay inside and get things done. I started cleaning and organizing the garage yesterday. Today? Who knows...I might grab the kid the camera and head out for a while....I need a break from the house. Well, that's it. Have a good day, guys.

And yet... does he correct himself? Noooooooo

Why would I? It's more fun this way.

Thanks, man.

Picturesque

Isn't it, though? I love living here on the Cape...so many beautiful spots to photograph.

People need to stop posting old posts.

Seriously.

Bundle up. Off ya go!

I know, I know I just need to do it, but I have a specific in mind, and I need to find the right village center to accomplish this. I'll get it at some point. In the mean time, I'll post some that I have.

TWSS

I've been aboard four of them thus far.
(and let me apologize up front for what's about to happen here...)


There are eight open to the public in the US with varying degrees of access to the internal compartments and spaces. The ones that have been in public hands longer have more areas that are open and can be explored. Alabama is a good one to see from an access standpoint. Her sister, Massachusetts, and also the North Carolina (which I've been aboard) are excellent museums as well having much to interact with. The Texas is the only remaining "Dreadnought" type battleship left anywhere, but is currently closed as they are trying to do some serious referb and basically save a ship that's been sitting in salt water for better then a century. The other four are the sisters of the Iowa class. I got aboard the Wisconsin on a trip we took to the Norfolk/Williamsburg area of Virginia (may have to post some of those pictures, cool stuff). Like the other three of the group, there's not as much of the ship opened up, but they're all a works in progress. The "Whisky" though is also part of a larger museum complex called Nauticus and as a whole the place is most excellent. That leaves the New Jersey (on the Delaware River across from Philadelphia), the Iowa (in the Long Beach area of CA) and the Missouri. That last one is in Pearl Harbor, Honolulu, moored just ahead of the wreck of the Arizona. Now, I've actually been aboard that one, but have never been to Hawaii. The story there is that for a good period back in the 80s, she was laid up in reserve at the Bremerton Navy yard in Washington State. I have an Aunt who worked many years for the WA State Ferry System. She knew folks over at the shipyard and when I was out there once we were able to get on board and walk around a bit. Nothing was accessible but the exteriors of the main deck and the 01 deck, but It was still cool to walk around at the time.

That's what's nice about the Massachusetts, you can get to just about all of the compartments, even if you can't get in them, like DC Central (Damage Control Central), you can at least see it through a door. This also goes for the very bottom of the barbette, you can't get down there, but you can see it from above. Man, I'm going to have to get back there at some point. And point of interest @GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes, Hollywood is currently filming at Battleship Cove.

Netflix Movie/Battleship Cove

That is a good thing.
May that continue long term.
(and my I join you in not dwelling there)

It is, and I'm very hopeful this time around that something will happen.

Purrty...
Excellent shots there, sir.

Thanks...I'm re-discovering pictures that I never edited and having fun with them.

Yeah, They really ought to pull that one down and pay it a bit of attention.

Yeah think? They should....though the Massachusetts bell isn't any better. (in an overly dramatic way) "Shameful it is. Absolutely shameful."

It's one of several apparently as there is also one out front that you can lay a hand one (a tradition of mine actually)...

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But I've read that the original may be located in the Hampton Roads Naval Museum (another spot I need to get to).

 

[AirGoofy]

Mornin', Gents! Whoa! Where'd that come from?! I'm so use to posting in the morning that automatically typed "Mornin'..." Gotta watch that. Anyways, I'm still here. I've been spending most of my time on the computer lately either looking for work online, applying for jobs, tweaking my resume (I have a couple different versions), writing and tweaking cover letters, and just when I think I'm all set...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz And then there's the honey due list...which thankfully the DW hasn't been bugging me on because I'm spending so much time looking for work. I did manage to reopen my unemployment claim from when I was let go from my law firm position in September....so there's that. I applied to a job with the court system for something I've done for 13 years, though I suspect I'll be over qualified for that one and won't get a call...but let's hope. Otherwise things are going well. Thankfully this time I haven't crawled back into my head for a bit of depression. As much as I'd love to have a job right now, being let go from my temp job was a bit of a blessing. I've been concentrating on finding something in the medical field, and I'm even working with a recruiter right now to help me. Yeah, I know...I just said I applied to a court job, but I do need a job, and that's one I could walk into and not have too much training on. I've also taken the time to edit some photos I've been holding of on, so I've been having fun with that as well. I'll post a couple....yes, that's a threat. Randall's already seen one one of them, so now you guys will get the pleasure.

I did like that beach picture. Again, good luck on the job search.

I have definitely climbed aboard the depression train, and hope that it doesn't last the year long Retirement Board exile. It's not looking good.

And I've got more to show y'all too (least of which would be the entire other vessel open down there). The place actually surprised me with the some of the extra exhibits that I wasn't necessarily expecting. Bonus points for someone like

I read your post as you have more pictures to show us about your vessel. I will take a pass on those photos.

Maybe I'll mature one day - doubtful.

Actually...
Yeah, you could, but...
Beyond the gun itself, the shells are legally categorized as being a "Destructive Device" and these require both a federal permit and that you live in a state which allows its citizens to own said type of devices. You'd also have to pay a fairly hefty tax on each of the individual shells. Then there's the minor problem of finding some that are actually for sale...

And we probably have a club for that in KY as well. I don't feel the need to prepare to defend myself against a drone or tank attack. It would sure be fun to fire one of those.

 

[pkondz]

might grab the kid the camera and head out for a while....I need a break from the house.

Sounds like a plan. I’m going to go to work.

Why would I? It's more fun this way.