DCL Has Their Protocol Out!!!

[DCLMP]

I don't think you can buy insurance through DCL after the PIF date. Unless they made a special exception here. But remember that "DCL's insurance" is actually a third-party product, not something that DCL can just change rules easily.

Purchasing travel insurance separately is almost always less expensive than purchasing with the travel reservation. It shouldn't be overly expensive for families to add if they need to do so to meet the new requirements.

The insurance through the third-party site actually seems cheaper now than in the past. It may be because nobody's been buying travel insurance in the last 18 months. I usually wait after the PIF date to buy, but I think I might buy it now before prices go up.

 

[mevelandry]

Masks for the vaccinated? No wonder why there’s so much vaccine hesitancy out there. What’s the point of getting a shot if you have to follow all the same rules as if you’re not vaccinated? I’m out. I’ll go to NCL. I’m not paying over $3k for a four night vacation just to wear a mask.

Not getting hospitalized or die from COVID?

As for the rates, yeah, I get it. We are going to be sailing on MSC. They have very similar protocols. Not a fan but the rates we got on MSC were probably one of the lowest we’ve ever had. If the rates were similar as DCL I would cancel.

 

[DCLMP]

I am the poster who canceled earlier today and was told to be positive on the phone with the CM lol. She actually said to me when she was trying to convince me not to cancel something to the effect of “keep your onboard booking and wait and see what’s announced for the other ports.” I took that she was inferring there might be different rules for Texas or California that might be more acceptable to me - those were the ports I could recall at the time. I didn’t push for any more info, because neither of those are close enough to me to want to fly to cruise.
Or she just really wanted to hold onto my deposit. I thought it was strange to make that suggestion to me but I didn’t bring it up earlier because I didn’t want to add to the speculation. Which I guess I am now…

The info someone else posted after talking to a CM didn't pan out so I would take it with a grain of salt. The CSR at Carnival told me I should hold off because things might change. Yeah maybe, but I think the virus is the one running the show right now.

 

[lovedisneycruise]

The info someone else posted after talking to a CM didn't pan out so I would take it with a grain of salt. The CSR at Carnival told me I should hold off because things might change. Yeah maybe, but I think the virus is the one running the show right now.

I agree but I was sharing it with the poster I quoted since she was wondering if there’s a chance, and based on my conversation with the CM there may be, however slight.

 

[KVH]

What is the status on cruise days? I'm not seeing anything on whether more than 7 days will be allowed anytime soon. If that is still in place, I don't see EBPC this year.

 

[iannovich]

What is the status on cruise days? I'm not seeing anything on whether more than 7 days will be allowed anytime soon. If that is still in place, I don't see EBPC this year.

the EBPC is in November so technically is after the CSO expires. Also, today the CSO officially became “recommendations” again after the 11th circuit reversed their decision to block the earlier ruling. Also when the CDC finally put out the phase 3 & 4 protocols they didn’t mention the 7 day limit (and expressly allowed B2B). That said, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the CSO back (again again) and either extended or amended.

 

[DCLMP]

I agree but I was sharing it with the poster I quoted since she was wondering if there’s a chance, and based on my conversation with the CM there may be, however slight.

A couple of news articles I read said it was for all ships, but that's not what the DCL website says. I would expect the Fantasy to have restrictions on ports and require a covid test upon disembarkation for unvaccinated. I'm not sure about Texas or California, but I would be surprised if they required vaccines for kids.

 

[sethschroeder]

I just don't see people in the US wanting to go back to the whole mask thing for something that is supposed to be an enjoyable experience.

I was in WDW in January and even there mask enforcement was top notch. They can very easily confine you to your quarters or more.

Anyone going has already been warned and I would expect strict enforcement.

watching those vlogs will be a sobering experience next to a Disney Cruise vlog.

Like I said the UK cruises look great to me with very limited passengers and they were at like 50%.

Remember that my original post that you replied to said that even Disney knows that these cruises are going to suck. Standard cancellation policy after the first cruise sets sail

Except no they don't just think it will suck. They simply are giving anyone a chance to cancel now. They can have cruises filled with last second cancelation in September, October, and later when people right now would take what is a limited space on a ship.

It is more than fair and they even moved back paid in full dates back along with keeping if I remember more forgivable cancelation during covid19 times.

So they are doing plenty if someone feels that this might impact them then they should cancel or I think Disney is even doing moves to later cruises.

So no I don't think Disney is creating some policy because they think everyone will say the cruise sucked.

 

[icc2515]

Sorry posted something from weeks ago.

 

[icc2515]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...me-court-let-cruise-ships-sail-again-n1274884
I guess I was not posting something from weeks ago. It is July 23rd, right? It looks like from the article that the US appeals court has blocked the CDC guidelines for cruises out and into FL. I can't imagine that DCL will continue with restrictions for long or at all. If I am reading this correctly. I don't see anything about when it goes into effect.

 

[sugliac]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...me-court-let-cruise-ships-sail-again-n1274884
I guess I was not posting something from weeks ago. It is July 23rd, right? It looks like from the article that the US appeals court has blocked the CDC guidelines for cruises out and into FL. I can't imagine that DCL will continue with restrictions for long or at all. If I am reading this correctly. I don't see anything about when it goes into effect.

Correct. 11th circuit originally ruled against FL (reversing the federal District court decision). FL went to the Supreme Court with a petition for their review, 11th circuit got scared and reversed their decision.

 

[Cliffside]

Mostly a vaccination requirement for those eligible. Which would allow for many of the other measures to be reduced. We are having our TA price out a few EDGE sailings in a suite. After 20 DCL cruises, it may be time to make the switch. I’m just really sad today.

Currently on the Edge in a suite…having an amazing time…we are platinum on DCL and wanted to sail soon but there is no way I would want to sail with the DCL protocols after experiencing cruising like before on Celebrity.

 

[squirk]

Except no they don't just think it will suck. They simply are giving anyone a chance to cancel now. They can have cruises filled with last second cancelation in September, October, and later when people right now would take what is a limited space on a ship.

It is more than fair and they even moved back paid in full dates back along with keeping if I remember more forgivable cancelation during covid19 times.

So they are doing plenty if someone feels that this might impact them then they should cancel or I think Disney is even doing moves to later cruises.

So no I don't think Disney is creating some policy because they think everyone will say the cruise sucked.

I'm not sure there's really a practical difference between "Disney thinks everyone will say the cruise sucked" and "Disney instituted this temporary refund option because they know a lot of people will now want to cancel because they feel that they will be dissatisfied with cruises where these COVID policies are in place"?

Clearly, some people are totally fine with the COVID protocol and are keeping their reservations, or even booking new ones. So, of course, it's not literally *everybody*.

But DCL didn't release this refund option just for fun. They knew a lot of folks - including folks who are post-PIF - weren't going to be happy with what they heard today.

 

[icc2515]

I was in WDW in January and even there mask enforcement was top notch. They can very easily confine you to your quarters or more.

Anyone going has already been warned and I would expect strict enforcement.

That was in January. Very few fully vaccinated people back then. I said that "I just don't see people in the US wanting to go back to the whole mask thing for something that is supposed to be an enjoyable experience. " I don't see how your statement has anything to do with mine, yet you quoted me. Maybe you were trying to say that it doesn't matter what people want Disney will force it down our throat like it or not and will confine us in our room if we don't follow along (which I agree with). Then you went on to say later on that the full refunds only being offered up until the day of the first cruise had nothing to do with Disney fearing that people would be upset with reviews of the first cruise.

 

[DCLMP]

I was in WDW in January and even there mask enforcement was top notch. They can very easily confine you to your quarters or more.

Anyone going has already been warned and I would expect strict enforcement.



Like I said the UK cruises look great to me with very limited passengers and they were at like 50%.



Except no they don't just think it will suck. They simply are giving anyone a chance to cancel now. They can have cruises filled with last second cancelation in September, October, and later when people right now would take what is a limited space on a ship.

It is more than fair and they even moved back paid in full dates back along with keeping if I remember more forgivable cancelation during covid19 times.

So they are doing plenty if someone feels that this might impact them then they should cancel or I think Disney is even doing moves to later cruises.

So no I don't think Disney is creating some policy because they think everyone will say the cruise sucked.

A lot of people cancelled their WDW trips because of the restrictions. I remember the outrage. We went three times during the pandemic and had the best trips ever despite the mask and restrictions. I spend such little time indoors on a cruise the mask thing is not a deal-breaker for me. If I'm going to the Bahamas or the Caribbean it's all about relaxation. Just give me a lounge chair, a good book, an adult beverage and I'm a happy camper.

I think in the long run DCL will be better off than the other cruise lines that are alienating a lot of people.

 

[Timandalicia]

Face coverings required indoors even for fully vaccinated. Guess we'll be canceling.

Great. Tell me when so I can grab your room!

 

[sethschroeder]

I'm not sure there's really a practical difference between "Disney thinks everyone will say the cruise sucked" and "Disney instituted this temporary refund option because they know a lot of people will now want to cancel because they feel that they will be dissatisfied with cruises where these COVID policies are in place"?

Except that is not what is being stated. They are saying they are stopping refunds before the first cruise since those fine with the new rules will see how bad supposedly this new setup it.

I absolutely think people don't like the policies that were released and are cancelling. I don't agree that those who are fine with it will see a couple youtube videos or posts and all of a sudden everyone starts thinking how much it all sucks in comparison to what we see in the UK.

That was in January. Very few fully vaccinated people back then. I said that "I just don't see people in the US wanting to go back to the whole mask thing for something that is supposed to be an enjoyable experience. " I don't see how your statement has anything to do with mine, yet you quoted me.

I was directly responding to you. Disney has enforced the mask policy before and will do it again here. They have provided notice and as I stated will act if needed including possibly restricting people to their state rooms.

Those who don't want to return to it will cancel their cruises just like those who only wanted to sail with fully vaccinated will cancel as well.

Then you went on to say later on that the full refunds only being offered up until the day of the first cruise had nothing to do with Disney fearing that people would be upset with reviews of the first cruise.

Because I expect many of the reviews to be fairly positive on the US sailings no different then the UK sailings.

Disney just needs to have a standard cancelation policy there needs to be some cutoff so they can fill these ships and it also forces people to decide instead of waiting it out 2 months and cancelling 3 days before the cruise when someone else would have went.

 

[sethschroeder]

A lot of people cancelled their WDW trips because of the restrictions. I remember the outrage. We went three times during the pandemic and had the best trips ever despite the mask and restrictions. I spend such little time indoors on a cruise the mask thing is not a deal-breaker for me. If I'm going to the Bahamas or the Caribbean it's all about relaxation. Just give me a lounge chair, a good book, an adult beverage and I'm a happy camper.

I think in the long run DCL will be better off than the other cruise lines that are alienating a lot of people.

And?

I never said people won't cancel but if you are upset about mask mandates you cancel now. A video of the first cruise isn't changing your mind is my point.

There absolutely are people would will cancel over the next couple weeks for various reasons.

 

[Timandalicia]

I certainly hope DCL is preparing to talk softly and carry a big stick in enforcing this policy.

I can’t tell you how angry I’d be to be on that cruise, following the rules, and see some jerk walking around proclaiming that he “ain’t gonna pay all this money to have to wear a mask.”

Yeah. Cruises already have a general culture of health and safety with worry of the spread of sickenness, so I think the pressure will be on.

 

[DCLMP]

And?

I never said people won't cancel but if you are upset about mask mandates you cancel now. A video of the first cruise isn't changing your mind is my point.

There absolutely are people would will cancel over the next couple weeks for various reasons.

.. and there are families like mine who have had covid ( and those that haven't) that would like to cruise. It will probably even out. I think in general cruise lines have a long road ahead until they are back to normal. If you want a cruise with no restrictions and no kids there are plenty of options.