DAS changes coming WDW May 20/ DL June 18, 2024

[nalababybear]

Great conversation. DAS primary intent as an accommodation for those that cannot stay in a conventional line. It became a one size fits all over the years, but Disney has decided to revamp and return DAS to its more restrictive use as an accommodation...and that ends a lot of pixie dust magic for some.

It was never meant to be a replacement to paid services like G+ nor an accommodation for stamina or constitutional symptoms not related to the line wait.

It's hard for many folk with disabilities who wish to enjoy the park to the fullest as possible and we all probably have dealt with the inability to fully enjoy most entertainment venues to its fullest.

If Disney offers those twilight tickets still, that's a potential option for time limited dwell issues

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

Great conversation. DAS primary intent as an accommodation for those that cannot stay in a conventional line. It became a one size fits all over the years, but Disney has decided to revamp and return DAS to its more restrictive use as an accommodation...and that ends a lot of pixie dust magic for some.

It was never meant to be a replacement to paid services like G+ nor an accommodation for stamina or constitutional symptoms not related to the line wait.

It's hard for many folk with disabilities who wish to enjoy the park to the fullest as possible and we all probably have dealt with the inability to fully enjoy most entertainment venues to its fullest.

If Disney offers those twilight tickets still, that's a potential option for time limited dwell issues

Sadly, I don’t see any way to buy the late afternoon tickets for US parks unless you happen to be attending a convention. It really would be nice for those of us who can’t spend a long time at the parks—but maybe they’ll have to sell them again if attendance drops.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

It has qualified in the past but the uncertainty going forward is stressful

Unfortunately many people that used to qualify now no longer do. It isn’t helpful to focus on the fact that you used to qualify.

 

[sunburnin]

Fair assessment!

The thing is, others have asked CMs at the attractions how it would work and gotten vague, hypothetical answers. My aim was to actually put AQR for a solo visitor into action. For the good of the group, but also because if it will work for me, I won’t be worried about DAS the next time around. Which I could explain to a CM if they ask why I’m not using DAS, I’m realizing as I type this.

Ah, very smart!!!

 

[creativeamanda]

I've tried to stay out of the DAS conversation but it keeps popping up. I think the biggest issue that has cropped up with all of this is what is or is not a reasonable accommodation. In the case of DAS, Disney could very well end the program altogether and still be within the confines of the ADA. The biggest problem they made for themselves is that they ended free fastpass and switched it to a "pay for play" system. People who were previously accommodated through the fastpass system were using the DAS program. I think that coupled with a handful of scammers (which I really do not think was as widespread as people made it) pushed Disney to try to put the Genie back in the bottle, so to speak.

I have an autistic son and in the past couple of months, I was diagnosed as autistic. I also have POTS and find myself in trouble when I get dehydrated, which can happen too often in the Florida sun. I find that when I script my day and when I scripted his, we could be accommodated by being at the park for rope drop and then leaving when the crowds became overwhelming. This strategy also helps with dehydration, and I drink a LOT before I ever leave the room, and leave the park right after lunch, returning only after it's dark. I've never used DAS, but there were times when my son was younger when I wish I had done DAS for him. Not for the autism, but for his accompanying IBS that seems to be a gluten intolerance. We left the lines plenty of times when he was younger with no option to return because of something as simple as a sauce that had gluten cross contamination (we didn't know at the time that this was an intolerance).

People with celiac, Crohns, and other digestive issues, as well as those with autoimmune diseases, PTSD, and cancer truly should receive the same accommodation as autistic individuals if the description is that they otherwise would not be able to wait in a traditional line. What about the person with POTS whose heart rate is fine until they get into the heat and get dehydrated? The only option for them is to get out of the line. But I'm here to tell you that when I get dehydrated and my heart rate is 139BPM sitting down, it may be an hour before I'd be able to return to the line rehydrated. I personally have not pushed the envelope with needing DAS because I usually travel for a long enough trip that if I needed to return to the room to rest and get to that attraction later, then it will be okay. But I would never say that because that is my choice, another person in a similar situation should not have an accommodation. That is just how I choose to handle my vacation. Others with autoimmune diseases may not be able to get to rope drop, or they may not be taking 8 day trips to Disney. Their need for accommodation for autism and POTS could be different than mine.

The whole point in accommodations is to level the playing field. It is not to give someone a leg up, and I can assure anyone that in my worst days, I don't have a leg up. My worst days are just few and far between in relation to others with the same problems. That's why, for example, autism is a spectrum. Intellectual disabilities often have a level related to them in school. Cancer has stages based on the area it has spread. We can't sit here not knowing people and make decisions about whether or not they need an accommodation.

And truthfully, if they didn't need it, karma will likely make its way to them, anyway.

 

[Jellybean9]

So no for what your saying about the two hours, looking at how it all works and speaking to others about genie+ then I would have booked a ride at 7am, hopefully for an early return time. But then I can’t book another until the park has been open two hours which is when we left. So unless what these people have been telling me is wrong then that particular day I would have gotten 1 ride from genie and that’s IF I had a return time before 10am.

You are misinformed on how Genie+ works. The only time you have to wait 2 hours to book your next G+ LL selection is if your first/previous selection is more than 2 hours away.

Let's say you booked your first G+ LL at Animal Kingdom at 7 am for 8:15-9:15 AM. You could check in for that lightening lane at 8:10 AM. You could then immediately book your next G+ LL. The only time you would encounter that 2 hour rule is if your first LL that you booked at 7 am was for a return time after 10 AM (2 hours after park opening). So if you booked at 7 AM and your first G+ LL wasn't until 10 AM, I wouldn't show up until 9:30 and then you could immediately book your next G+ as soon as you scanned in.

 

[StitchesGr8Fan]

I've tried to stay out of the DAS conversation but it keeps popping up. I think the biggest issue that has cropped up with all of this is what is or is not a reasonable accommodation. In the case of DAS, Disney could very well end the program altogether and still be within the confines of the ADA. The biggest problem they made for themselves is that they ended free fastpass and switched it to a "pay for play" system. People who were previously accommodated through the fastpass system were using the DAS program. I think that coupled with a handful of scammers (which I really do not think was as widespread as people made it) pushed Disney to try to put the Genie back in the bottle, so to speak.

I have an autistic son and in the past couple of months, I was diagnosed as autistic. I also have POTS and find myself in trouble when I get dehydrated, which can happen too often in the Florida sun. I find that when I script my day and when I scripted his, we could be accommodated by being at the park for rope drop and then leaving when the crowds became overwhelming. This strategy also helps with dehydration, and I drink a LOT before I ever leave the room, and leave the park right after lunch, returning only after it's dark. I've never used DAS, but there were times when my son was younger when I wish I had done DAS for him. Not for the autism, but for his accompanying IBS that seems to be a gluten intolerance. We left the lines plenty of times when he was younger with no option to return because of something as simple as a sauce that had gluten cross contamination (we didn't know at the time that this was an intolerance).

People with celiac, Crohns, and other digestive issues, as well as those with autoimmune diseases, PTSD, and cancer truly should receive the same accommodation as autistic individuals if the description is that they otherwise would not be able to wait in a traditional line. What about the person with POTS whose heart rate is fine until they get into the heat and get dehydrated? The only option for them is to get out of the line. But I'm here to tell you that when I get dehydrated and my heart rate is 139BPM sitting down, it may be an hour before I'd be able to return to the line rehydrated. I personally have not pushed the envelope with needing DAS because I usually travel for a long enough trip that if I needed to return to the room to rest and get to that attraction later, then it will be okay. But I would never say that because that is my choice, another person in a similar situation should not have an accommodation. That is just how I choose to handle my vacation. Others with autoimmune diseases may not be able to get to rope drop, or they may not be taking 8 day trips to Disney. Their need for accommodation for autism and POTS could be different than mine.

The whole point in accommodations is to level the playing field. It is not to give someone a leg up, and I can assure anyone that in my worst days, I don't have a leg up. My worst days are just few and far between in relation to others with the same problems. That's why, for example, autism is a spectrum. Intellectual disabilities often have a level related to them in school. Cancer has stages based on the area it has spread. We can't sit here not knowing people and make decisions about whether or not they need an accommodation.

And truthfully, if they didn't need it, karma will likely make its way to them, anyway.

Except you are forgetting that Genie+ was released in 2021 and DAS use has been growing for years as it became more widely known and available. And again, free fast pass wasn’t a wonderful perfect system. Someone who couldn’t get up early would often be shut out of getting a FP for the most popular rides because FP’s would be gone in an hour or two. Parties with a DAS and a FP could essentially be in 3 places at once, and thanks to the internet a lot of people realized that.


And Universal does pay to play and no one is raking them over the coals for it. (Deluxe resorts and paid Express Passes) Or their local amusement park who says “too bad so sad” to offering anything beyond basic wheelchair access.

Wouldn’t it be awesome if people expended as much energy advocating for accessibility at local entertainment venues as they do for Disney parks so that people who can’t afford a Disney trip can still have places to go have fun?

 

[rk3668]

People with celiac, Crohns, and other digestive issues, as well as those with autoimmune diseases, PTSD, and cancer truly should receive the same accommodation as autistic individuals if the description is that they otherwise would not be able to wait in a traditional line. What about the person with POTS whose heart rate is fine until they get into the heat and get dehydrated? The only option for them is to get out of the line.

I am speculating, but I think your second and third sentences here are what the changes to DAS are trying to address. DAS is intended for people who cannot wait in long lines, not for people with 'what about' situations that might arise in the line or disabilities that would benefit from DAS. What percentage of the groups at Disney have somebody who would fit in this second group (people with a disability that would benefit from using DAS)? I would guess it would be over 75%. Your group certainly does. Every group I am close to does, and none of them ever got DAS. I don't know how the parks would work at all if all of these groups started getting DAS.

 

[Unity]

And Universal does pay to play and no one is raking them over the coals for it. (Deluxe resorts and paid Express Passes) Or their local amusement park who says “too bad so sad” to offering anything beyond basic wheelchair access.

Wouldn’t it be awesome if people expended as much energy advocating for accessibility at local entertainment venues as they do for Disney parks so that people who can’t afford a Disney trip can still have places to go have fun?

But people do in the places where such is relevant. Just because you don't see it here doesn't mean people aren't expending the energy elsewhere.

This is a Disney subboard dedicated to disabilities therefore naturally you're seeing people advocating for themselves about Disney.

Also, many parks across the states have access like DAS. Universal, Six Flags, Sea World, Dollywood, etc. etc.

My local themepark is a Six Flags and am already thankfully covered there by many guidelines!

 

[Vampiress88]

I know you don’t want to hear this, but you not spending long in the parks does not entitle you to DAS. And it’s up to you to decide if you think that you will be well enough to go into the parks on a given day when you are making the decision about whether Genie+ is worth it for that day. The good news is that you don’t have to buy it every day. You can, for example, plan to use it every other day and use the “off” days as mostly rest days.

For your sake I hope that you qualify. But if you don’t, the Genie+ option is not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be.

Your right. It’s not really what I wanted to hear as it kind of makes me feel like people don’t understand but that’s fine. Most people don’t, same as there’s lots of others I don’t understand how they affect people either. I also hope for my sake I qualify as currently I am on the fence with Disney as to even bother going back and trying.

DAS doesn’t have anything to do with spending time in the parks. I already know I can’t do from rope drop to fireworks even on a great day- I’m not saying that cos I can only do a few hours in the park I’m entitled to das I’m saying cos of how things effect me I won’t manage in a long queue without accommodations, sometimes this will be being let out of the queue to leave and come back, sometimes that won’t work at all that I should be entitled to it, same as I am with universal. It’s not like I can’t prove these things should they ask cos I can.

Chronic conditions effect us in a way that I don’t know how I will be tomorrow, I can even tell you what I’ll be in the afternoon etc. So i understand that I have to make a decision about genie+ being worth it but as I said in my examples. I was fine one minute and had I not have had das I would have bought genie+ but then would have had to leave the park after two hours.
It’s really not a choice to leave. If I had a choice I would be normal and then I could Disney all day but I’m not and I have to change my life around so that I can be as normal as possible.

I also agree with you that I don’t have to buy genie+ every day. I wouldn’t anyway as there are a few times we go into the park not bothering for rides but for food/atmosphere usually at Epcot or to watch fantasmic etc or the days when I am ok and just wait in the lines.

But what I am saying is that until the end of that day I will not know how the day has been so I can’t tell you if getting genie+ will have been the right call or a waste of money. With das I didn’t have to worry about all that and when stress exacerbates my issues then having to worry doesn’t help.

what someone else said about chronic conditions was spot on.

 

[Vampiress88]

Why would you wait 2hrs before getting your next return time? You can book the next ride as soon as you've used the first one.

Well I was researching genie+ and ear scouts said that it’s best to book genie at 6.45am. Then at 7am I can get the first LL booked. Then it said I needed to wait till 2hours after park opening before I can get the next one.

Is this not correct?

So that particular day I had last year, I would have been able to get a ride booked at 7am but then we had to leave after 2hours. So I wouldn’t have gotten a second one.

It’s not like I’m not trying to research and find ways around all this so I can help myself. I just cannot work out how genie will benefit me if it’s a bad day. I can see it would be great when/if I’m good.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

Well I was researching genie+ and ear scouts said that it’s best to book genie at 6.45am. Then at 7am I can get the first LL booked. Then it said I needed to wait till 2hours after park opening before I can get the next one.

Is this not correct?

So that particular day I had last year, I would have been able to get a ride booked at 7am but then we had to leave after 2hours. So I wouldn’t have gotten a second one.

It’s not like I’m not trying to research and find ways around all this so I can help myself. I just cannot work out how genie will benefit me if it’s a bad day. I can see it would be great when/if I’m good.

We typically buy Genie+ at 6:50am or whatever.
7am: book your first LL then buy whatever ILLs you want for the day (optional)

>> next step depends on when park opens and when the first ride is. For the sake of arguments let’s assume park opens at 9am.

Your next LL can be booked 2 hours after park opens OR as soon as you tap into your LL. So let’s say that you got an early slot for Jungle Cruise. As soon as you tap in you would book Pirates or Haunted Mansion, which likely have immediate returns. Once you get off Jungle Cruise your window for your next ride should be available. If you wanted to do Flying Carpets you can SB that on the way over. After tapping into Pirates/Haunted, pick your next ride. Repeat until you need to leave the parks.

Depending on what your priorities are, you’ll need to make some decisions about which rides you select. The most popular ones are going to fill faster (so the return times are later), while some of the lesser rides may have near-immediate returns for quite a while. If you don’t get your first return time until noon, for example, then you would probably want to wait to go to the parks for a bit and book your next LL at 11am (2 hours after park opens), and then you will have 2 ready to go once you get to the parks.

Or if you wanted to do a couple of the more popular rides, you may end up wanting to target going in the afternoon, so you’d book at 7am, 11am, 1pm, and even 3pm. Keep modifying the time slots to get to your preferred start time, but you’d have 4 rides ready to go the minute you walk into the park, and the ability to continue to book less popular rides as you go along.

One more thought about "worth it" or not. It’s an extremely personal decision, but I would almost always choose to have it and figure out another place to cut the $25 out of my daily budget than not have it and have to stand in lines. Genie+ is roughly the cost of one quick serve, or two trips to Starbucks. It isn’t a big deal for me to make a sandwich back at the hotel and bring snacks, and I have become a lot more selective about the food stalls during festivals. I also don’t buy that many souvenirs after so many trips. I don’t “deprive” myself in any way, but there are definitely ways that I can still have a great trip AND try to avoid standing in lines, which is something that just isn’t worth my very limited vacation time.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

Your right. It’s not really what I wanted to hear as it kind of makes me feel like people don’t understand but that’s fine.

I’m sorry that you feel that people don’t understand. I’d hope that people are trying to take a more dispassionate view of the situation and trying to find solutions that will work for you within the context of what Disney is trying to do.

I also hope for my sake I qualify as currently I am on the fence with Disney as to even bother going back and trying.

Disney is such a happy place, that for me being there is better than not, no matter what.

But what I am saying is that until the end of that day I will not know how the day has been so I can’t tell you if getting genie+ will have been the right call or a waste of money. With das I didn’t have to worry about all that and when stress exacerbates my issues then having to worry doesn’t help.

I totally hear that. This is a lesson that comes up in a lot of places in life. One thing that we try to stress with our kids is that they shouldn’t be afraid to try things, even if they end up being disappointments/not worth it. Because if they don’t they will never find new things that they might like.

A silly example, but my son really wanted to experience the Wicked Wind Down at Villain’s Lair, so we paid whatever to get special access. It ended up being a huge disappointment, but because it was so bad it ended up being a “highlight” of the trip (something to laugh about).

Another non-Disney example, my daughter is a really picky eater, so we go out of our way to not get mad at her if she chooses to try something new and then doesn’t like it. Plenty of food doesn’t get eaten (or is eaten by Daddy) Fortunately though this meant that on a recent trip she tried a new kind of pasta which was “different” from what she has at home and ended up loving it. She still isn’t great at making the choice to try, but she is getting a little better.

 

[AJA]

Well I was researching genie+ and ear scouts said that it’s best to book genie at 6.45am. Then at 7am I can get the first LL booked. Then it said I needed to wait till 2hours after park opening before I can get the next one.

Is this not correct?

So that particular day I had last year, I would have been able to get a ride booked at 7am but then we had to leave after 2hours. So I wouldn’t have gotten a second one.

No Earscouts isn’t correct (as an absolute) his advice in this situation only applies if you are choosing a very popular ride that would have a lot people trying for it first thing in the morning and hence a longer wait time (like Peter Pan) -of course a lot of people are, that’s why he explained it that way.

You don’t need to wait 2 hours. You can make another selection right after tapping in at your current ride (OR 2 hours which ever comes first).

For someone trying to make the most of their morning because they may have to leave early and really are happy with riding almost any rides it could go like this:

Park opens at 9. At 7am Get first Genie+ at Haunted Mansion for 9am, Tap in.
Then get a return time for Pirates. (Probably for 9:30ish) Tap in.
Then get a return time for Winnie the Pooh (probably 10 am) Tap in.
Then immediately get a return for Little Mermaid (10:30-11) Tap in.
Then immediately try for a return time at Small World that may work for you as you are passing by it to leave the park. If it’s not immediately available, Aladdins Carpets should be.

See how you are feeling and if you feel like you could stay in the park and get anymore rides.

The above advice doesn’t work if you are wanting headliner rides as the return times would be further out not immediate.

But if your health doesn’t allow you to stay more than a couple of hours in the park you can still get 4-5 rides with Genie+ so you don’t feel like you wasted your money.

 

[jo-jo]

No Earscouts isn’t correct (as an absolute) his advice in this situation only applies if you are choosing a very popular ride that would have a lot people trying for it first thing in the morning and hence a longer wait time (like Peter Pan) -of course a lot of people are, that’s why he explained it that way.

You don’t need to wait 2 hours. You can make another selection right after tapping in at your current ride (OR 2 hours which ever comes first).

For someone trying to make the most of their morning because they may have to leave early and really are happy with riding almost any rides it could go like this:

Park opens at 9. At 7am Get first Genie+ at Haunted Mansion for 9am, Tap in.
Then get a return time for Pirates. (Probably for 9:30ish) Tap in.
Then get a return time for Winnie the Pooh (probably 10 am) Tap in.
Then immediately get a return for Little Mermaid (10:30-11) Tap in.
Then immediately try for a return time at Small World that may work for you as you are passing by it to leave the park. If it’s not immediately available, Aladdins Carpets should be.

See how you are feeling and if you feel like you could stay in the park and get anymore rides.

The above advice doesn’t work if you are wanting headliner rides as the return times would be further out not immediate.

But if your health doesn’t allow you to stay more than a couple of hours in the park you can still get 4-5 rides with Genie+ so you don’t feel like you wasted your money.

How about a second park? Using your plan, we could do all the rides we can handle in 3-4 hours..

We are ones to go in the morning, not rope drop but 9:30 ish. Stay until 1 or so, leave for 3-4 hours, go back to park about 6ish. One of our dislikes about genie +, is the one shot on rides. In MK, we do about 5 rides, all low key, no coasters. So how would genie would if we went to MK morning, and say Epcot for the evening. Same deal, low key, nothing on the left side of Epcot.

I know genie is say $25 for MK only or $28 for multi parks......or something like that.

I doubt we would get DAS again. We haven't needed until a few years ago when health issues popped up.

We have 10 day tickets, but will only have 5 park days and 5 rest days with maybe an evening visit for a show or two, not really concerned about rides. We used to go and sit watch the fountain for an hour at Epcot during Chrismtmas, now we'll have to go sit and watch the globe.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

How about a second park? Using your plan, we could do all the rides we can handle in 3-4 hours..

We are ones to go in the morning, not rope drop but 9:30 ish. Stay until 1 or so, leave for 3-4 hours, go back to park about 6ish. One of our dislikes about genie +, is the one shot on rides. In MK, we do about 5 rides, all low key, no coasters. So how would genie would if we went to MK morning, and say Epcot for the evening. Same deal, low key, nothing on the left side of Epcot.

I know genie is say $25 for MK only or $28 for multi parks......or something like that.

I doubt we would get DAS again. We haven't needed until a few years ago when health issues popped up.

We have 10 day tickets, but will only have 5 park days and 5 rest days with maybe an evening visit for a show or two, not really concerned about rides. We used to go and sit watch the fountain for an hour at Epcot during Chrismtmas, now we'll have to go sit and watch the globe.

With the multi park ticket you would book your MK morning rides, and when you finish you can start booking/stacking your Epcot rides. It’s quite easy. The only “trick” is that you need to be booking reservations after the window to hop opens. So it’s ok to book at Epcot at 11 even if you are still at MK, as long as the LL window is late enough.

Does that make sense?

 

[AJA]

How about a second park? Using your plan, we could do all the rides we can handle in 3-4 hours..

We are ones to go in the morning, not rope drop but 9:30 ish. Stay until 1 or so, leave for 3-4 hours, go back to park about 6ish. One of our dislikes about genie +, is the one shot on rides. In MK, we do about 5 rides, all low key, no coasters. So how would genie would if we went to MK morning, and say Epcot for the evening. Same deal, low key, nothing on the left side of Epcot.

I know genie is say $25 for MK only or $28 for multi parks......or something like that.

I doubt we would get DAS again. We haven't needed until a few years ago when health issues popped up.

We have 10 day tickets, but will only have 5 park days and 5 rest days with maybe an evening visit for a show or two, not really concerned about rides. We used to go and sit watch the fountain for an hour at Epcot during Chrismtmas, now we'll have to go sit and watch the globe.

If you are leaving a park after a couple hours in the morning, then you can stack return times for returning in the evening.

Just as you said make sure you purchase Genie+ multi park that morning, not just Magic Kingdom.

During your downtime set an alarm on your phone for every 2 hours, see what times are available for when you first expect to be at Epcot. Then choose your next every two hours throughout the afternoon.

You should be able to enter Epcot with 2-3 rides ready to go. You shouldn’t have a problem stacking Nemo, then living with the land, then spaceship earth, Mexico’s boat ride, even Soarin.

On crowded days in Epcot Test Track and Frozen may not be available late in the day as all slots have already been taken.

I would recommend watching some YouTube vloggs that actually walk you through watching them use Genie+ to “stack rides later in the day” or “using Genie+ at two parks in one day” -so you can see the process IRL.

Genie+ works better than DAS as in you don’t have to wait out a standby line return time. With stacking you could ride 3-4 rides in an hour.

But its lesser than DAS in the aspect that headliner ride slots fill up and are no longer available, and you can’t have re-rides.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

If you are leaving a park after a couple hours in the morning, then you can stack return times for returning in the evening.

Just as you said make sure you purchase Genie+ multi park that morning, not just Magic Kingdom.

During your downtime set an alarm on your phone for every 2 hours, see what times are available for when you first expect to be at Epcot. Then choose your next every two hours throughout the afternoon.

You should be able to enter Epcot with 2-3 rides ready to go. You shouldn’t have a problem stacking Nemo, then living with the land, then spaceship earth, Mexico’s boat ride, even Soarin.

On crowded days in Epcot Test Track and Frozen may not be available late in the day as all slots have already been taken.

I would recommend watching some YouTube vloggs that actually walk you through watching them use Genie+ to “stack rides later in the day” or “using Genie+ at two parks in one day” -so you can see the process IRL.

Genie+ works better than DAS as in you don’t have to wait out a standby line return time. With stacking you could ride 3-4 rides in an hour.

But its lesser than DAS in the aspect that headliner ride slots fill up and are no longer available, and you can’t have re-rides.

One other thought here…if a headliner like Remy or Frozen Boat is on your wish list there is no reason why you couldn’t book that with your 7am choice. Most people assume that you pick MK rides first because you will be there, but depending on what you want to ride you have some flexibility.

 

[jo-jo]

With the multi park ticket you would book your MK morning rides, and when you finish you can start booking/stacking your Epcot rides. It’s quite easy. The only “trick” is that you need to be booking reservations after the window to hop opens. So it’s ok to book at Epcot at 11 even if you are still at MK, as long as the LL window is late enough.

Does that make sense?

If you are leaving a park after a couple hours in the morning, then you can stack return times for returning in the evening.

Just as you said make sure you purchase Genie+ multi park that morning, not just Magic Kingdom.

During your downtime set an alarm on your phone for every 2 hours, see what times are available for when you first expect to be at Epcot. Then choose your next every two hours throughout the afternoon.

You should be able to enter Epcot with 2-3 rides ready to go. You shouldn’t have a problem stacking Nemo, then living with the land, then spaceship earth, Mexico’s boat ride, even Soarin.

On crowded days in Epcot Test Track and Frozen may not be available late in the day as all slots have already been taken.

I would recommend watching some YouTube vloggs that actually walk you through watching them use Genie+ to “stack rides later in the day” or “using Genie+ at two parks in one day” -so you can see the process IRL.

Genie+ works better than DAS as in you don’t have to wait out a standby line return time. With stacking you could ride 3-4 rides in an hour.

But its lesser than DAS in the aspect that headliner ride slots fill up and are no longer available, and you can’t have re-rides.

thank you both.

So at MK, we have gone on Buzz, small world, etc, at 11 get SSE for 6. Then at 1 , can I get Nemo at 6:45 and at 3, listen to the land at 7 and 5 get Soaring at 7:30.....of course just guessing at times. Just seeing if rides can occur that close.

The only ride that will be harder to get I think will be Remi.

But chances are, after doing the rides without Remi, we will be done and go back to resort.

 

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thank you both.

So at MK, we have gone on Buzz, small world, etc, at 11 get SSE for 6. Then at 1 , can I get Nemo at 6:45 and at 3, listen to the land at 7 and 5 get Soaring at 7:30.....of course just guessing at times. Just seeing if rides can occur that close.

The only ride that will be harder to get I think will be Remi.

But chances are, after doing the rides without Remi, we will be done and go back to resort.

If that is your wishlist book Remy at 7, as that is the only thing in your list that is hard. Everything else will be walk on or close to it. I’d wait to get to MK until closer to 2 hours after park open. Unless you are there at Christmas you should have no issue with rides like buzz and small world.

Spaceship earth is virtually always a walk on LL reservation. I’d look for soarin first but even then the window may not be late enough yet, depending on when you leave MK.