DAS changes coming WDW May 20/ DL June 18, 2024

[TwoMisfits]

Considering any nondisabled guest doesn't have to be in the queue alone, those with a disabled guest in their party shouldn't have to either.

Sure they do - parents with a baby are routinely in a queue alone, and then rider-swapping. Disney won't let the 2 parents just jump ahead together b/c they have a 6 month old.

 

[RamblinWreck]

Anyone get the feeling that Disney deliberately let this system get totally out of hand just so it would be easier for them to justify getting rid of?

 

[TwoMisfits]

Anyone get the feeling that Disney deliberately let this system get totally out of hand just so it would be easier for them to justify getting rid of?

Yes, this I agree with...they wanted an absolute slam dunk legal case before they made a big swap b/c they know it's always coming.

 

[Gentry2004]

Considering any nondisabled guest doesn't have to be in the queue alone, those with a disabled guest in their party shouldn't have to either.

Not true. This already happens with rider swap. And its also what Disney is proposing with the Return to Line passes. Disney is cool with being in the queue alone.

 

[Tatebeck]

Anyone get the feeling that Disney deliberately let this system get totally out of hand just so it would be easier for them to justify getting rid of?

I mean the more out of hand it gets, the easier it will be able to prove that it was fundamentally affecting their daily line of business if they are sued by anyone over the change

 

[Gentry2004]

Anyone get the feeling that Disney deliberately let this system get totally out of hand just so it would be easier for them to justify getting rid of?

You mean crazy like a fox? I'm starting to wonder. The initial announcement was just bad enough that I might actually believe this.

 

[RamblinWreck]

I mean the more out of hand it gets, the easier it will be able to prove that it was fundamentally affecting their daily line of business if they are sued by anyone over the change

Exactly!

 

[Gentry2004]

Sure they do - parents with a baby are routinely in a queue alone, and then rider-swapping. Disney won't let the 2 parents just jump ahead together b/c they have a 6 month old.

But then the question becomes why isn't this also the accommodation for developmental disabilities, as long as the party has at least 3 total guests?

 

[OurBigTrip]

I mean the more out of hand it gets, the easier it will be able to prove that it was fundamentally affecting their daily line of business if they are sued by anyone over the change

I wouldn’t go so far as to say they allowed it to get this bad; more along the lines of while they did their due diligence of gathering data on how bad it was, it continued to get even worse.

 

[OurBigTrip]

But then the question becomes why isn't this also the accommodation for developmental disabilities, as long as the party has at least 3 total guests?

Disney isn’t going to take away an accommodation from a group that a federal court specifically said was well served by that accommodation.

 

[TwoMisfits]

But then the question becomes why isn't this also the accommodation for developmental disabilities, as long as the party has at least 3 total guests?

It may be, unless the developmental disability is severe.

 

[Tatebeck]

But then the question becomes why isn't this also the accommodation for developmental disabilities, as long as the party has at least 3 total guests?

I mean it could still be if they are individualizing it to each guest applying. If there are enough people in that DAS members party when they do interviews.

 

[Gentry2004]

I wouldn’t go so far as to say they allowed it to get this bad; more along the lines of while they did their due diligence of gathering data on how bad it was, it continued to get even worse.

As a previous poster stated, I think we all (myself included) underestimated the social media effect for the scammers. This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Gentry2004]

Disney isn’t going to take away an accommodation from a group that a federal court specifically said was well served by that accommodation.

The disabled person is still waiting outside the queue with a member of their party. And if the party is just 2 people, its still DAS. But if others are along too, there is no reason at all why the can't wait in the queue.

 

[Swaggerwagon]

Considering any nondisabled guest doesn't have to be in the queue alone, those with a disabled guest in their party shouldn't have to either.

Parents doing the rider switch because they have a child too small to ride DO have to be in the queue alone though. We take turns lining up by ourselves and riding the ride alone. (And it is still fun.)

 

[DWillowBay]

Here's the bottom line, for me..... I would do almost anything if my adult son did NOT qualify for DAS, but he does. Because he does, we are able to go to WDW where we would not be able to without DAS. Therefore, I am very grateful for DAS on my son's behalf. He is unwelcome in many parts of the world at-large. But he loves his Mouse, Duck and Princesses and this gives him a joy that he doesn't have anywhere else. This will always be a difficult system to monitor. However, to those who are faking or embellishing a disability in order to ride a ride in a theme park, you are a kind of un-evolved creature who may, someday, need the sincere care of others for your daily living. I hope you haven't stored up all that karma until then.

 

[Tatebeck]

Is there any chance that they may soften the blow a tiny bit by doing something like allowing G+ for free to the disabled guest as long as the rest of the party purchases it? Or extending return times to 2 hours instead of 1 if you have a disability exception? Or maybe even both

For the first idea they wouldn't have to split up for G+ rides, it would save the guest at least a tiny bit of money, and Disney would retain the line control (and they wouldn't technically be charging for an accomodation)

For the second it would allow disabled guests more flexibility with their needs, without giving them a real advantage as far a squeezing in more rides per day, just more flexibility to ride the rides they already reserved

 

[tjmw2727]

The disabled person is still waiting outside the queue with a member of their party. And if the party is just 2 people, its still DAS. But if others are along too, there is no reason at all why the can't wait in the queue.

Except with a party of 3, I guess my dd's could take turns waiting and "take one for the team"! But again, I would just send them together to ride and skip the RS option for me as it just won't work for us.

 

[tjmw2727]

Is there any chance that they may soften the blow a tiny bit by doing something like allowing G+ for free to the disabled guest as long as the rest of the party purchases it? Or extending return times to 2 hours instead of 1 if you have a disability exception? Or maybe even both

For the first idea they wouldn't have to split up for G+ rides, it would save the guest at least a tiny bit of money, and Disney would retain the line control (and they wouldn't technically be charging for an accomodation)

For the second it would allow disabled guests more flexibility with their needs, without giving them a real advantage as far a squeezing in more rides per day, just more flexibility to ride the rides they already reserved

I like the idea of extending an hour - that would work for us. I do take exception to the fact that DAS is a real advantage - most who qualify don't get as much done as a typical guest, let alone more rides per day.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Wagons and stroller wagons are banned in general, but can still be used with a medical exemption

There are processes to get a wagon approved for use as a medical stroller where a regular stroller won't work.
I'm not sure if the colors of the tags are the same at Disneyland as WDW. At WDW, the tag that authorizes the wagon to be used as a stroller is blue. If it's also authorized to use in lines, it will also have the red 'Stroller as wheelchair' tag. I've read that people sometimes hide the tags or carry them instead of having them on the stroller because people steal the tags

At Disneyland this past January they told us they were now alternating the colors of the Stroller as a Wheelchair tag because people were faking them on Etsy.

People suck.