Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[HokieRaven5]

It just feels like a moot point at this stage. I can understand arguing about having 2 year olds wear one but for grown adults the rules are to wear them. Nothing is going to change that.

Yeah we cancelled early summer because I didn't think my DS2 had enough time with a mask on to be able to follow it without turning it into a tantrum.

Now, he gets excited to put it on when he sees all of us wearing one and I could see maybe getting him in the parks for a few hours at a time.

 

[Tigger's ally]

It just feels like a moot point at this stage. I can understand arguing about having 2 year olds wear one but for grown adults the rules are to wear them. Nothing is going to change that.

Once again, nobody here is arguing. Don't know why you keep using that word. How about using the word discussing?

 

[LSUmiss]

It just feels like a moot point at this stage. I can understand arguing about having 2 year olds wear one but for grown adults the rules are to wear them. Nothing is going to change that.

But when Disney sends out surveys specifically asking about them, it seems it’s not as moot as some might think.

Btw, I’m here now & I didn’t see any stricter enforcement than I saw in July. Most ppl wore masks properly & a few times I saw a CM politely ask someone to put their on properly. The person complied & that was it.

 

[mattpeto]

I have to say football feels a heck of a lot more normal!

The NFL is a rating beast.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1315759011019534338

 

[hereforthechurros]

Parks, hotels, shops, airports all felt back to somewhat normal this time around. Not overly packed but certainly far from slow... just like an average day. I had issue getting ADRs and we skipped all rides at Epcot because of wait times. The queue to get into Mexico (pyramid) was over an hour. They stopped letting people queue eventually. We had an ADR at San Angel otherwise we wouldn’t have made it in.

There are signs everywhere now saying you will be asked to leave if not wearing a mask. Even at DS. Also there are now signs saying you may not remove your mask for pictures so if there were any lingering questions about that, there isn’t anymore. Also, at Epcot I spotted no less than six fully armed sheriff deputies in the WS. Is that normal? I don’t ever remember seeing armed security in plain sight like that at a Disney park, let alone 1/2 dozen of them. Not very magical.

As demand and capacity increase they know distancing won’t be easy hence the mask crackdown.

Really rethinking our Christmas trip. My husband is all for it but to me it just feels like too many corners are being cut. What was all for safety at first now just feels cheap/lazy, and as a consumer it starts to leave a bad taste in your mouth - especially when tickets are still full price. So many details that wdw is famous for just aren’t there right now. That and waiting an hour in a stuffy queue for every ride just isn’t okay for us. I’d rather have my 3 FPs then leave if needed vs. not riding anything because wait times are 95 minutes for something we’ve never had to wait more than 15-20 minutes for. So, we’ll see.

 

[hereforthechurros]

But when Disney sends out surveys specifically asking about them, it seems it’s not as moot as some might think.

Btw, I’m here now & I didn’t see any stricter enforcement than I saw in July. Most ppl wore masks properly & a few times I saw a CM politely ask someone to put their on properly. The person complied & that was it.

Just got back today and I think mask awareness is heightened for sure. I saw a few CMs straight up snap at people and was sorta glad to see it. It’s their safety on the line most of all if people don’t comply so they have every right to be firm.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

I would say it depends on the results they get overtime. Otherwise what’s the point of asking the question?

Collecting data. Disney wants to know how masks are impacting the guest experience even if they have zero plans to change it. It helps them drive their marketing and messaging. Helps them pinpoint targeted messages to different groups. They always ask questions in surveys about things they have no plans to change. It helps them develop their consumer profiles.

I don’t think the data has anything to do with them considering easing restrictions. Masks are here for the foreseeable future. The virus situation in the US does not warrant any easing of mask restrictions. Things are going great for Disney with masks and distancing with no traceable outbreaks. Chapek today said the parks are still at 25% capacity. I think they will increase capacity before they change anything related to masks. Increased capacity means less opportunity for distancing, so if they do that, masks will be even more necessary.

 

[Eric Smith]

I have to say football feels a heck of a lot more normal!

NFL ratings are down too.

 

[HokieRaven5]

NFL ratings are down too.

Yeah, everything on TV is down, but the NFL is still the top viewed content.

This is all part of why Disney wants to increase their direct to consumer markets as their media entities are their largest income generators especially with people cord cutting, etc.

 

[yulilin3]

But when Disney sends out surveys specifically asking about them, it seems it’s not as moot as some might think.

Btw, I’m here now & I didn’t see any stricter enforcement than I saw in July. Most ppl wore masks properly & a few times I saw a CM politely ask someone to put their on properly. The person complied & that was it.

They've done this survey since June with that same question, i think they are just collecting data for and against, with very little consequence in the final decision
Once we get word from the union that they are back in talks about safety is when we can expect a change

 

[TheMaxRebo]

They've done this survey since June with that same question, i think they are just collecting data for and against, with very little consequence in the final decision
Once we get word from the union that they are back in talks about safety is when we can expect a change

Plus just gives them more info on how people are feeling about it when they return home and talk to friends.

Is the messaging "that was horrible, don't go as long as masks are required" or is it more "you know, it really wasn't *that* bad"


I am sure very few people *want* to ear the masks and I am sure Disney won't change their policies based on response, but it gives some insights on how big of a role it played in impacting the trip

 

[yulilin3]

Plus just gives them more info on how people are feeling about it when they return home and talk to friends.

Is the messaging "that was horrible, don't go as long as masks are required" or is it more "you know, it really wasn't *that* bad"


I am sure very few people *want* to ear the masks and I am sure Disney won't change their policies based on response, but it gives some insights on how big of a role it played in impacting the trip

And im assuming the numbers will be used once talks with the unions come back up.
Again just by the small DIS. sample i think most people are saying "it wasn't that bad" as opposed to pre opening we were all thinking "it's going to be really hard"

 

[Pyotr]

And im assuming the numbers will be used once talks with the unions come back up.
Again just by the small DIS. sample i think most people are saying "it wasn't that bad" as opposed to pre opening we were all thinking "it's going to be really hard"

The DIS is not a good representation of the general public. This board is filled with the hardest of the hardcore Disney fans.

 

[Princess Merida]

Parks, hotels, shops, airports all felt back to somewhat normal this time around. Not overly packed but certainly far from slow... just like an average day. I had issue getting ADRs and we skipped all rides at Epcot because of wait times. The queue to get into Mexico (pyramid) was over an hour. They stopped letting people queue eventually. We had an ADR at San Angel otherwise we wouldn’t have made it in.

There are signs everywhere now saying you will be asked to leave if not wearing a mask. Even at DS. Also there are now signs saying you may not remove your mask for pictures so if there were any lingering questions about that, there isn’t anymore. Also, at Epcot I spotted no less than six fully armed sheriff deputies in the WS. Is that normal? I don’t ever remember seeing armed security in plain sight like that at a Disney park, let alone 1/2 dozen of them. Not very magical.

As demand and capacity increase they know distancing won’t be easy hence the mask crackdown.

Really rethinking our Christmas trip. My husband is all for it but to me it just feels like too many corners are being cut. What was all for safety at first now just feels cheap/lazy, and as a consumer it starts to leave a bad taste in your mouth - especially when tickets are still full price. So many details that wdw is famous for just aren’t there right now. That and waiting an hour in a stuffy queue for every ride just isn’t okay for us. I’d rather have my 3 FPs then leave if needed vs. not riding anything because wait times are 95 minutes for something we’ve never had to wait more than 15-20 minutes for. So, we’ll see.

Question about the Mexico pyramid. So is there a queue line outside to get in and then when you get inside you’re free to get in any line? Say I wanted to do the boat ride and go to La Cava, am I better off making a San Angel reservation and then once I’m in and done eating I can enjoy the ride and line up for La Cava? We originally were doing MK and HWS but I’m late buying tickets so we may do Epcot instead and the pyramid is my favorite part of Epcot. I definitely don’t want to be in line for an hour to get in. I will if I have to for La Cava though! Thanks for your review of your experience at Epcot.

 

[yulilin3]

The DIS is not a good representation of the general public. This board is filled with the hardest of the hardcore Disney fans.

never said it was a good representation, just said taking the DIS as a small sample. My sister is against masks and is a local ap, she's waiting for Disney to drop the mandate to return, I know there are a lot of people out there. But from the DIS posters, which can vary from hard core to casual fans I have seen and read a real turn around on the mask issue

 

[DGsAtBLT]

The DIS is not a good representation of the general public. This board is filled with the hardest of the hardcore Disney fans.

On a similar note, complaints online are not a good representation of the general population, most people have adapted to and accepted masks despite the loudest people screaming otherwise.

They are a tool to allow a much greater return to normal than would otherwise be possible. Most people do want that.

 

[Farro]

On a similar note, complaints online are not a good representation of the general population, most people have adapted to and accepted masks despite the loudest people screaming otherwise.

They are a tool to allow a much greater return to normal than would otherwise be possible. Most people do want that.

Yep.

 

[Farro]

Just read there is work being done on people mover! I saw pictures - granted it's for the supports for the track, not the track itself, but still....

 

[Farro]

Also reading about a new offer for UK guests for 2021? Anyone with info?

I'll take any news about anything besides Covid, masks, restrictions, please...

 

[Pyotr]

never said it was a good representation, just said taking the DIS as a small sample. My sister is against masks and is a local ap, she's waiting for Disney to drop the mandate to return, I know there are a lot of people out there. But from the DIS posters, which can vary from hard core to casual fans I have seen and read a real turn around on the mask issue

Public opinion has defidently shifted on the issue. People want to feel like they have some kind of control of the pandemic. I will likely return next summer whether they are required or not. Right now I don't feel that it is a safe place to be for my family.