Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Pyotr]

On a similar note, complaints online are not a good representation of the general population, most people have adapted to and accepted masks despite the loudest people screaming otherwise.

They are a tool to allow a much greater return to normal than would otherwise be possible. Most people do want that.

I complain all the time of how much I hate the Sci-Fi Diner, but yet it is always packed.

 

[Farro]

Also reading about a new offer for UK guests for 2021? Anyone with info?

I'll take any news about anything besides Covid, masks, restrictions, please...

Did some digging - are these new? (UK ONLY) I think called "wish you were here" packages! I know it's not for the US, but I think it points to us getting some decent hotel discounts coming for spring 2021...

Book Now to Enjoy Disney’s 14-Day Ultimate Ticket at a 7-Day Price!
The magic is still as powerful as ever at Walt Disney World. From thrilling attractions to award-winning restaurants, your Disney holiday will be packed with enchanted memories from the instant you arrive. Why not make the most of your time in the magic? Book now to benefit from Disney’s 14-Day Ticket for the price of a 7-Day Ticket offer, available for selected arrivals in 2021!


and

Up to 4 Nights FREE in a Disney Hotel
Stay in a Disney hotel on selected dates in 2021 and enjoy up to 4 nights FREE worth £872 on your two-week holiday!

 

[Sarahslay]

Did some digging - are these new? (UK ONLY) I think called "wish you were here" packages! I know it's not for the US, but I think it points to us getting some decent hotel discounts coming for spring 2021...

Book Now to Enjoy Disney’s 14-Day Ultimate Ticket at a 7-Day Price!
The magic is still as powerful as ever at Walt Disney World. From thrilling attractions to award-winning restaurants, your Disney holiday will be packed with enchanted memories from the instant you arrive. Why not make the most of your time in the magic? Book now to benefit from Disney’s 14-Day Ticket for the price of a 7-Day Ticket offer, available for selected arrivals in 2021!


and

Up to 4 Nights FREE in a Disney Hotel
Stay in a Disney hotel on selected dates in 2021 and enjoy up to 4 nights FREE worth £872 on your two-week holiday!

They do a lot of these types of deals for UK guests, especially the ticket deal, several of my friends said they weren't coming over unless they could get the 14 day ticket for the price of 7 they normall get.

 

[Farro]

They do a lot of these types of deals for UK guests, especially the ticket deal, several of my friends said they weren't coming over unless they could get the 14 day ticket for the price of 7 they normall get.

Still nice to see they are now encouraging guests to book and come visit.

 

[xuxa777]

On a similar note, complaints online are not a good representation of the general population, most people have adapted to and accepted masks despite the loudest people screaming otherwise.

They are a tool to allow a much greater return to normal than would otherwise be possible. Most people do want that.

Definitely not across the board. Perhaps "most" in your area/region and obviously the case at Disney but do you realize there are many areas hardly anyone wears masks outside the national corporate stores that still mandate them. Been in many resturaunts where there were no mask even on the staff. There are schools systems that have been open for months without students wearing masks etc. Disney is probably the one place I have seen them utilized the most, which makes sense.

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316007986796679169

 

[Sarahslay]

Still nice to see they are now encouraging guests to book and come visit.

Oh, definintely good to see something, I think it's a good sign.

 

[Mit88]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316007986796679169

Guess it’s not much of a secret then.

That’s good though. That’s really the best way to see how things are operating safety wise

 

[Farro]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316007986796679169

Hmmm. I wonder if this will be a "see, here's a picture of crowding and non-masking wearing! Disneyland is staying closed!" type situation- like when we see one picture with some possible crowding, everyone freaks out, and it turns out it was just one moment that cleared up quickly.

Also read that the audio at parks has also been updated to say (paraphrasing) guests will be asked to leave if not wearing masks.

 

[Sarahslay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316007986796679169

and I'm guessing that much like what I read online from folks they probably didn't like what they saw. I have no doubt in my mind that D'Amaro visiting last week and the new masks signs are directly related, and because of that the "secret shoppers" probably saw exactly what he did. I don't think Newsome will be happy enough with what is reported back to him, I think Disney is about to have a tough fight with him about it and maybe some changes if what I was hearing from friends the last two weeks is true in the parks.

 

[Farro]

and I'm guessing that much like what I read online from folks they probably didn't like what they saw. I have no doubt in my mind that D'Amaro visiting last week and the new masks signs are directly related, and because of that the "secret shoppers" probably saw exactly what he did. I don't think Newsome will be happy enough with what is reported back to him, I think Disney is about to have a tough fight with him about it and maybe some changes if what I was hearing from friends the last two weeks is true in the parks.

The biggest complaint I was reading about was long lines and ME issues. Sure a mask off here or there, but most were reporting good compliance.

Regardless, I think Newsom has his mind made up and whatever they saw or didn't see isn't going to change it.

Or being who I am, we can stay positive and maybe he is feeling more pressure to open and will use this visit as an excuse to reverse course a little and open with less restrictions than he previously stated.

 

[Mit88]

and I'm guessing that much like what I read online from folks they probably didn't like what they saw. I have no doubt in my mind that D'Amaro visiting last week and the new masks signs are directly related, and because of that the "secret shoppers" probably saw exactly what he did. I don't think Newsome will be happy enough with what is reported back to him, I think Disney is about to have a tough fight with him about it and maybe some changes if what I was hearing from friends the last two weeks is true in the parks.

The Lakers celebration in his state of CA probably had less mask/distancing compliance than the entirety of non compliance combined at WDW since the reopening.

 

[Brianstl]

Did some digging - are these new? (UK ONLY) I think called "wish you were here" packages! I know it's not for the US, but I think it points to us getting some decent hotel discounts coming for spring 2021...

Book Now to Enjoy Disney’s 14-Day Ultimate Ticket at a 7-Day Price!
The magic is still as powerful as ever at Walt Disney World. From thrilling attractions to award-winning restaurants, your Disney holiday will be packed with enchanted memories from the instant you arrive. Why not make the most of your time in the magic? Book now to benefit from Disney’s 14-Day Ticket for the price of a 7-Day Ticket offer, available for selected arrivals in 2021!


and

Up to 4 Nights FREE in a Disney Hotel
Stay in a Disney hotel on selected dates in 2021 and enjoy up to 4 nights FREE worth £872 on your two-week holiday!

Pretty good overall deal with the tickets and around a 30% discount on rooms.

 

[KBoopaloo]

Definitely not across the board. Perhaps "most" in your area/region and obviously the case at Disney but do you realize there are many areas hardly anyone wears masks outside the national corporate stores that still mandate them. Been in many resturaunts where there were no mask even on the staff. There are schools systems that have been open for months without students wearing masks etc. Disney is probably the one place I have seen them utilized the most, which makes sense.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1313205337286156295

 

[yulilin3]

Just arrived at epcot, Wording about wearing your mask or you'll be asked to leave has been added to the audio spiel

 

[PrincessV]

Yeah,25% of max capacity with only 50% of attraction capacity (b/w social distancing and shows not open) will feel pretty crowded

This. 6' of distance between parties means longer lines, but not necessarily longer time waiting: those are two distinctly different things, but a lot of folks don't seem to be separating them. I've heard so many friends talk about how "crowded" the parks are because they saw a line stretching far longer than usual - but they totally missed the fact that it was continually moving and was all of a 15-minute wait. And there's also the fact that on continuous loaders, like HM for example, 6' between parties means not being able to efficiently load every ride vehicle - that means rides operating at reduced capacity, which further extends lines and may increase wait times. And then you also have attractions not operating at peak efficiency because that requires more labor, which WDW is trying to reduce to save on costs: if only one side of Space is running, that reduces the number of Guests who can ride per hour.

I've been visiting the WDW parks since the late 70s and regularly for 3 decades now, so I've pretty much seen it all: from the emptiest of empty days, to the most crowded of holidays, from ride tickets to all-day passes and no FP, to OG FP to FP+, and everything in between. The group psychology of theme park visitors is endlessly fascinating! In the days before FP, hour-long waits for rides was common - that was why FP was met with such enthusiasm! On a very slow day in the Olden Days, I'd ride every ride with no real wait and backtrack to do some rides multiple times, but on busy days, I might only experience half the attractions. My first times riding Space and Splash involved 3-hour waits in line. That's just the way it was and if we wanted to ride something, we dealt with the wait. FP reduced wait times, making it easier to do more in less time. FP+ continued that trend. It seems to me we now have a big group of WDW visitors who have never known life before FP and their expectations (created by Disney, to be clear) are entirely at odds with how a park works without FP. I completely understand why to many of them, the current situation feels too busy, too crowded, too little value for the output of time and money. For me, it's full circle: it's 1995 again and if I want to visit on a busier day, I know I'll have to choose between waiting a while or skipping some rides, or I can opt for a slower day and wait less, do more.

 

[Pyotr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1313205337286156295

You can make a survey say whatever you want depending on who you sample.

For example, if you survey people who love staring at the back of their families heads while they eat, I’m sure Sci-Fi Diner would receive high marks.

 

[andyman8]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316007986796679169

Ruh roh.

 

[rteetz]

This endless mask debate and arguing about arguing in regards to masks is extremely tiring and we really just need to move on.

 

[SaintsManiac]

If Genie showed up right now and asked me for my first wish it would be to end the mask debate.