Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[andyman8]

I love how this is a big deal while Universal is intentionally putting people in consecutive rows, well within 6ft for at least 2.5 minutes. And then their city walk picture last weekend with masks off, and huge crowds.

those incidents had maybe 5 comments here.

Disney has a crowding issue for a cavalcade and it’s “here comes the 2nd wave in Florida”.

it’s just bonkers in here sometimes lol

To be fair, I’ve made my displeasure with how UOR has handled things lately pretty well known, and I know a good amount of TMs have been echoing those sentiments as well.

At the end of the day, I’m confident that Disney will see what happened this morning and make adjustments as they have consistently done throughout this phased reopening. Remember morning of opening day? A lot of bloggers and vloggers wanted to be “first” back in and there were long lines and not a lot of social distancing. The “hype” died down and Disney made some adjustments and we haven’t seen a repeat since. I feel confident that Disney is taking health and safely seriously and making decisions based on that (which, again, is why I think we’re still some time away from fireworks coming back).

 

[Dentam]

People who want to be doing things are not all selfish

No, but people who are comfortable breaking the rules and tell others to stay home if that makes them uncomfortable are selfish. That was my point, not that everyone who wants to be out doing things like going to Disney are selfish.

 

[Mit88]

well, it is DISboards, not UNIVERSALboards .... and that picture did get some comments here and I saw a lot on social media

But at the end of the day Disney is the big fish, the Empire, the NY Yankees - they are the focus and what "everyone" wants to knock off their pedistal ... they get all the benefits and negatives of being #1

But if there were as many Disney apologists as there claim there are here, you would have seen a lot more criticism about it on a Disney forum. The fact is, yes people here love Disney (maybe not all), but I haven’t seen a single person that has had 0 concerns or any worry and it’s all pixie dust on whatever Disney has done during all of this. But every time Disney slips up, no matter how big, how small the issue is, it’s always blown out of proportion

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I don't think that people who go are selfish - if they follow all the rules and if Disney does their part as well to enforce mask wearing and social distancing. I was overall very impressed with them when we went last week. I didn't even have to use most of the hand sanitizer I brought because it was everywhere you looked there. I also used the hand washing stations a few times. I just hope they continue to make adjustments as they see issues like this. I also hope they don't increase attendance levels any more than they are. Friday was more crowded at MK than what I was really comfortable with so I'm glad we aren't there now with the current reports I'm reading.

I guess in the strictest sense of the word going to Disney at any point is selfish ... I mean, at least I know I go because I enjoy it, it is pleasing to me - not doing it for altruistic reasons

But there is a big difference between "doing something one enjoys in a responsible manner" and "total disregard for my fellow humans"

I think most people are trying to find that spot inbetween "staying in my home 24/7 and never seeing another human" and "going about life as if the virus doesn't exist" and people are at different spots on that spectrum - hopefully just whever they are they are being mindful of how their actions can impact others and doing everything they reasonable can to be safe and responsible (knowing that no one will be 100% perfect all the time)

 

[TheMaxRebo]

But if there were as many Disney apologists as there claim there are here, you would have seen a lot more criticism about it on a Disney forum. The fact is, yes people here love Disney (maybe not all), but I haven’t seen a single person that has had 0 concerns or any worry and it’s all pixie dust on whatever Disney has done during all of this. But every time Disney slips up, no matter how big, how small the issue is, it’s always blown out of proportion

I think it is the nature of the internet, to have that initial take - and I also think people play it forward a lot "IF this continues ...."

but i agree with you 100%

 

[Grumpy by Birth]

And as we’ve seen time and time again, these issues have continuously been one and done. Unless there’s an algorithm to predict exactly where people are going to stand for a cavalcade that hasn’t happened yet and put tasers under the ground to shock people that stand somewhere they shouldn’t to get them to move, they can only solve these issues after it happens the first time

Careful... you'll get a fair number of people advocating for these types of measures to actually be implemented.

 

[Brianstl]

Some would argue that going to WDW during a pandemic is selfish....period.

I read this somewhere on the internet “the same people that go to Disney during a pandemic are the same people who will run you over for a tv on Black Friday.”

do I agree with that? No. But I can see how some think those that go to a theme park during a pandemic are only thinking of themselves.

So you always view going to WDW as a selfish act? Because any trip to WDW can spread a virus or bacteria that can kill people. The virus is everywhere in this country and if you want to live in fear, a trip to the grocery store could be viewed as a selfish act. You either let the fear cower you or you figure out how to live while taking precautions. My family's mental health is just as important to me as their physical health. In times like these you have to do things that address both.

If my family's upcoming trip to WDW is viewed as selfish by some rando on the internet, so be it. I see how stressed the last few months have made both my wife and son. They need this vacation to address their mental health.

 

[xuxa777]

I was talking about being in a crowd. But you knew that already.

Yes I know, that is my question, you can't get out of a crowd, away from any one particular person, in less than 15 minutes in WDW?

 

[Mit88]

I think it is the nature of the internet, to have that initial take - and I also think people play it forward a lot "IF this continues ...."

but i agree with you 100%

Negativity and Toxicity will continue to spread and grow on the internet as long as we accept it as it just being the nature of the internet. The parallels to what’s going on in the world right now is eerie

 

[mi*vida*loca]

So you always view going to WDW as a selfish act? Because any trip to WDW can spread a virus or bacteria that can kill people. The virus is everywhere in this country and if you want to live in fear, a trip to the grocery store could be viewed as a selfish act. You either let the fear cower you or you figure out how to live while taking precautions. My family's mental health is just as important to me as their physical health. In times like these you have to do things that address both.

If my family's upcoming trip to WDW is viewed as selfish by some rando on the internet, so be it. I see how stressed the last few months have made both my wife and son. They need this vacation to address their mental health.

i don’t think it’s selfish. in my original post I clearly stated “do I agree with that? No.”

But there are people on these boards (not only this forum) who have gone to Disney and think people are selfish for not doing Disney, during this pandemic, “the correct way.” And there are people on these boards who think Just going to Disney during a pandemic is selfish. So both sides “bashing” each other.

Honestly I’m not that rigid with covid anymore. I go to places, vacation, BBQs, see family and friends, etc. I’m not waiting to live until there is a vaccine. I’m careful about it. I wash my hands, wear a mask when necessary, keep my distance and hope for the best.

We were going to do Disney but won’t until we don’t have to wear masks and once all offerings are available. But if I were to go I’d be ok if social distancing fails at times, I’d be ok if someone wasn’t wearing their mask, I’d be ok if I got stuck in a crowd. I expect it to happen every once in a while during these times. No way can it be done 100% of the time when you have thousands of people at one place at one time. It’s a theme park. And my opinion is if you aren’t ok with that maybe happening, then you shouldn’t be going to a theme park.

 

[LSUmiss]

Never said that. It is a line that is repeated on these boards ad nauseam though. Look no further than what was posted literally a minute or two after mine. This country has a mentality of "me, me, me" that gets very tiring.

As is the other “side”, if you will. Don’t go to wdw b/c I am not comfortable with them being open & you may bring the virus home to “ME”.

 

[leahgoogle]

Yep any coughs etc don't count in the first 14 minutes 59 seconds. CDC says so.

It's about viral load. One cough by an infected person while masked (especially outside) does not have enough of the virus in it to cause an infection. That is why there are not mass infections from going to the grocery store. One transient person coughing by you in an aisle isn't enough to infect. It has to be prolonged exposure with enough of a viral load which is where the 15 minutes comes from.

 

[LSUmiss]

Yep any coughs etc don't count in the first 14 minutes 59 seconds. CDC says so.

Not my rules. If we agree we are opening things based on cdc guidelines, then it is what it is.

 

[Dentam]

Yes I know, that is my question, you can't get out of a crowd, away from any one particular person, in less than 15 minutes in WDW?

Possibly not if they continue to increase capacity. Also if you're stuck in an indoor line without an exit in sight and no CM's around near someone refusing to wear a mask. In that case the 15 minute guidance goes out the window in my opinion. It doesn't take 15 minutes for the virus to be transmitted from someone who isn't wearing a mask if they cough or sneeze near you.

 

[cristen72]

anyone know if you can still use the microwaves at the food courts?

 

[LSUmiss]

What? So people socially distance in their own homes? Or when visiting family or friends? Nope.

Still up to the individual. If I am not comfortable with going to wdw then I should not be comfortable with you visiting me when you get back until you have quarantined long enough.

 

[sullivan.kscott]

Did you see the recent video/article of a 70 year old man asking someone in line to create distance? Albeit not at WDW, but he was dragged out beaten and kicked in the head (and received broken bones for simply asking). This is while others just watched it.

I don't know a person's trigger point even at WDW so the risk is not worth it for me.

ETA: this was in Orlando area

Witnessed two families acting complete fools while we waited for a table at Three Broomsticks last month. Same trigger, one family politely asking for a little space. Sometimes, people really amaze me in the worst way possible.

 

[andyman8]

Witnessed two families acting complete fools while we waited for a table at Three Broomsticks last month. Same trigger, one family politely asking for a little space. Sometimes, people really amaze me in the worst way possible.

Yep. A few weeks ago, I was eating at a QS at DHS (waiting for the rest of my party to join with their food) and a mother came up to me and asked if her family could join me at my table (I guess there weren’t a lot of other tables available). I politely said I wouldn’t be comfortable since there wouldn’t be six feet and we wouldn’t be wearing masks. Her response was very standoffish and rude. Like I said, there are problems and judgment on both “sides” of this discussion.

 

[Dentam]

Witnessed two families acting complete fools while we waited for a table at Three Broomsticks last month. Same trigger, one family politely asking for a little space. Sometimes, people really amaze me in the worst way possible.

Yeah, I didn't say anything to the two people we encountered on two different days while waiting in indoor lines who weren't wearing masks because you never know how someone will react. The first was a guy who was arguing the entire time with the woman he was with and cussing at the child with them. No way am I dealing with someone like that. I was very uncomfortable though and just kept as much distance between him and us as possible. No exits in sight or CM's. I'm getting tested later today before returning to work, which I was always going to do anyway, but people like that are absolutely a risk to others around them.

 

[rteetz]

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