Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Elle23]

I am at the 60 day mark and made my ADRs this morning. MK recently switched from closing at 6 to closing at 7. There were no ADRs available past 6.

Does anyone know when/ if Disney will fix this? (From past experience?)

 

[anthony2k7]

But ppl should be socially distancing everywhere so even if ppl contract it at wdw then they shouldn’t be able to spread it to anyone not willing to take the same risk.

What? So people socially distance in their own homes? Or when visiting family or friends? Nope.

 

[Dentam]

Some would argue that going to WDW during a pandemic is selfish....period.

I read this somewhere on the internet “the same people that go to Disney during a pandemic are the same people who will run you over for a tv on Black Friday.”

do I agree with that? No. But I can see how some think those that go to a theme park during a pandemic are only thinking of themselves.

I don't think that people who go are selfish - if they follow all the rules and if Disney does their part as well to enforce mask wearing and social distancing. I was overall very impressed with them when we went last week. I didn't even have to use most of the hand sanitizer I brought because it was everywhere you looked there. I also used the hand washing stations a few times. I just hope they continue to make adjustments as they see issues like this. I also hope they don't increase attendance levels any more than they are. Friday was more crowded at MK than what I was really comfortable with so I'm glad we aren't there now with the current reports I'm reading.

 

[LeeLee'sMom]

I’m hesitant to get too far into this discussion, but I think the idea is that even if everyone pictured feels “comfortable” with the risk they’re taking, they could “carry” whatever they’ve potentially contracted to others (who’ve not made the choice to take that risk) in their homes and communities.

Now, again, it’s one set of pictures and we all kind of know how the “I wanna be first” Disney crowd reacts to any “event” like this. Just like morning on reopening day, I’d imagine this is a one-off and social distancing won’t be a big problem for future cavalcades. That said, it selfishly upsets me, because if anybody sees this and thinks this bodes well for the return of parades and fireworks, they’d be mistaken. If people can’t adhere to the physical distancing guidelines for a “spontaneous” special cavalcade, it doesn’t inspire a whole lot of confidence for what will happen before and after a showing of Happily After Ever. While Disney would love to have parades and fireworks back in the parks, they also seem perfectly content saving the money and moving ahead with reduced hours. They’re not going to take the added risk when they see things like this.

Correct,,,not saying this is right, wrong or indifferent, just saying this is a "picture, how long did the crowds last, it is outside and people are masked." Not going down this rabbit hole of discussion lol

 

[xuxa777]

Not always and especially not if they continue to add things that draw crowds or increase attendance caps.

Are you saying there are places in WDW that you can't get at least 6 feet away from a person in less than 15 minutes.

 

[Mit88]

I love how this is a big deal while Universal is intentionally putting people in consecutive rows, well within 6ft for at least 2.5 minutes. And then their city walk picture last weekend with masks off, and huge crowds.

those incidents had maybe 5 comments here.

Disney has a crowding issue for a cavalcade and it’s “here comes the 2nd wave in Florida”.

it’s just bonkers in here sometimes lol

 

[Dentam]

Are you saying there are places in WDW that you can't get at least 6 feet away from a person in less than 15 minutes.

I was talking about being in a crowd. But you knew that already.

 

[gottalovepluto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1305881347966357512

Florida's next wave coming soon!

I think they should enforce physical distancing and make people leave the area if their group does not have a spot but I don’t think we’re looking at a wave of anything. People are outdoors & masked. I think they should enforce it because this is a step towards people dropping their guard and thinking “I was one foot from those people at the parade so I’ll stand where I want in this indoor line”.

 

[fantomhamst3r]

Yep any coughs etc don't count in the first 14 minutes 59 seconds. CDC says so.

*sigh* has there been a single covid case traced back to Disney World yet? No. This is a complicated situation with a lot of moving parts, and it's inevitable that the ball won't stay in the air the whole time. Disney is adjusting. The world is adjusting. Would I have preferred that Americans followed the rules and just quarantined for a month to get the virus down to manageable levels? Yes. Are we in a situation now where that's impossible? Probably. As much as lives matter more than comfortibility, there has to be a point where people are allowed to go into environments that are slightly less safe before a vaccine becomes widely available in a year. Masks and Social Distancing help, but nothing eliminates risk. Going to Disney World or standing in a sparse crowd does not immediately result in contracting covid, and until they actually trace a case back to Disney World, they have my benefit of the doubt. People who want to be doing things are not all selfish, and many are still acting responsible to mitigate the impact of the virus.

 

[skeeter31]

I am at the 60 day mark and made my ADRs this morning. MK recently switched from closing at 6 to closing at 7. There were no ADRs available past 6.

Does anyone know when/ if Disney will fix this? (From past experience?)

They could be all booked already. The late evening dining’s have been going very quickly (within minutes of the morning opening or days earlier when someone books their 60+10). It’s very possible all the openings for after park closing are gone, especially since it’s only a handful of restaurants that are staying open past park closing.

 

[andyman8]

But ppl should be socially distancing everywhere so even if ppl contract it at wdw then they shouldn’t be able to spread it to anyone not willing to take the same risk.

I’m not going to get too in the weeds here, but I think we all can think of a number of circumstances where we haven’t been in a socially distanced environment by our own choice over the last few months (home, work, eating out, meeting up with friends/family). And even with those protocols, the virus can still spread. Masks and social distancing minimize the risk but don’t eradicate it. At the end of the day, it’s all about what risk you’re personally comfortable with. That said, manners still apply and if you see two parties waiting for the cavalcade roughly six feet apart, many (myself included) might consider it impolite to step in between them without asking them both.

I will say that I see where people are coming from on both sides and I think that people here are generally well-intentioned but I do think there’s judgement coming from both sides, and that makes it very difficult to have any productive conversation, which is a real shame.

 

[hertamaniac]

Well of course ideally no one should go in your personal space and you have every right to politely ask them to move (or don't do that if uncomfortable).
The point was it's just going to happen sometimes and if you are really uncomfortable, you may have to avoid situations where it can arise.
That's just the way it happens sometimes.

Did you see the recent video/article of a 70 year old man asking someone in line to create distance? Albeit not at WDW, but he was dragged out beaten and kicked in the head (and received broken bones for simply asking). This is while others just watched it.

I don't know a person's trigger point even at WDW so the risk is not worth it for me.

ETA: this was in Orlando area

 

[Elle23]

I am at the 60 day mark and made my ADRs this morning. MK recently switched from closing at 6 to closing at 7. There were no ADRs available past 6.

Does anyone know when/ if Disney will fix this? (From past experience?)

Never mind! I just went and looked and they fixed it already! Shocking for Disney!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

It’s also day one. Lots of bloggers and vloggers out. I’m more interested to see if this continues.

yeah, that is the big question ... if it is a one time thing, it isn't great, and bad optics, etc. but then it moves on and people see it as Disney correcting an issue and then it is ok

If this continues though then I think that is an issue as social distance is not being enforced, not being held and is more important than the masks and is against what Disney is saying they are doing (whether true safety or safety theater if Disney is promising social distancing and then it isn't happening, that is not a good thing)

 

[Elle23]

They could be all booked already. The late evening dining’s have been going very quickly (within minutes of the morning opening or days earlier when someone books their 60+10). It’s very possible all the openings for after park closing are gone, especially since it’s only a handful of restaurants that are staying open past park closing.

Thanks for your reply. They fixed it already! They must have just done it.

My strategy must be the same as others...maximize the shortened hours by having dinner after the park closes!

 

[anthony2k7]

I love how this is a big deal while Universal is intentionally putting people in consecutive rows, well within 6ft for at least 2.5 minutes. And then their city walk picture last weekend with masks off, and huge crowds.

those incidents had maybe 5 comments here.

Disney has a crowding issue for a cavalcade and it’s “here comes the 2nd wave in Florida”.

it’s just bonkers in here sometimes lol

Sorry, I think I missed the city walk photo. I would have made equally a big deal of that.

 

[LeeLee'sMom]

And to balance that, if you feel safe.....don't move and risk being a contagion to others who did move.

You betcha... same scenario for markets, targets, peaceful protestors...everything in balance. We all have different views and perceptions. Some are extremists and some not, common sense will hopefully prevail much of the time.

 

[tink2424]

I am going to Disney in just over a week. I know that they aren't doing the package delivery to resorts right now but are they still holding packages at the front of the park until you can pick it up at the end of the day?

 

[Mit88]

yeah, that is the big question ... if it is a one time thing, it isn't great, and bad optics, etc. but then it moves on and people see it as Disney correcting an issue and then it is ok

If this continues though then I think that is an issue as social distance is not being enforced, not being held and is more important than the masks and is against what Disney is saying they are doing (whether true safety or safety theater if Disney is promising social distancing and then it isn't happening, that is not a good thing)

And as we’ve seen time and time again, these issues have continuously been one and done. Unless there’s an algorithm to predict exactly where people are going to stand for a cavalcade that hasn’t happened yet and put tasers under the ground to shock people that stand somewhere they shouldn’t to get them to move, they can only solve these issues after it happens the first time

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I love how this is a big deal while Universal is intentionally putting people in consecutive rows, well within 6ft for at least 2.5 minutes. And then their city walk picture last weekend with masks off, and huge crowds.

those incidents had maybe 5 comments here.

Disney has a crowding issue for a cavalcade and it’s “here comes the 2nd wave in Florida”.

it’s just bonkers in here sometimes lol

well, it is DISboards, not UNIVERSALboards .... and that picture did get some comments here and I saw a lot on social media

But at the end of the day Disney is the big fish, the Empire, the NY Yankees - they are the focus and what "everyone" wants to knock off their pedistal ... they get all the benefits and negatives of being #1