Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Farro]

I must have missed the news where masks meant social distancing was cancelled.

I missed that too.

You can't make people be afraid, no matter how hard you try. I wear my mask everywhere. I social distance when able. If I see people socially, I don't visit people who are at higher risk for 14 days. I follow all the rules.

If I'm outside and I choose to be in a situation where I may be closer than 6 feet to others for a few minutes, but we are all masked, I'm fine with that. It would seem from video others are too. Happens all over, every single park I see.

I don't need you to be fine with that, because I am. And no, I don't think the virus is over. How silly to suggest so.

Spare me the looks of horror. I'm not asking anyone else to do anything they aren't comfortable with.

 

[Brianstl]

Well since the “event” starts today, I’d think everything that’s going to be up would be up. They’re not going to want to have a different experience for different days of the same event. So if it wasn’t up by this morning, I don’t think it’s going up. Especially since things like the scarecrows aren’t exactly special order or anything. They just chose not to pull them from the warehouse and install them.

I would agree with you 100% during a normal year. I think there is a chance more might go up tonight as they try avoid paying overtime to people.

 

[LSUmiss]

If that's all they did for the Halloween decorations I'm seriously worried about the Christmas decorations now.

Yes

 

[LeeLee'sMom]

Actually that looked much better than I thought it was going to. And every single person had on their mask.

Correct and if people don't feel safe....just move..plain and simple.

 

[Brianstl]

Correct and if people don't feel safe....just move..plain and simple.

Angles and the fact that when people see 8 people together they don't think automatically that they are probably the same party instead of two or more groups together make it look much worse than it actually was.

That said, fear sells and we will keep getting fear porn for the foreseeable future.

 

[andyman8]

Correct and if people don't feel safe....just move..plain and simple.

I’m hesitant to get too far into this discussion, but I think the idea is that even if everyone pictured feels “comfortable” with the risk they’re taking, they could “carry” whatever they’ve potentially contracted to others (who’ve not made the choice to take that risk) in their homes and communities.

Now, again, it’s one set of pictures and we all kind of know how the “I wanna be first” Disney crowd reacts to any “event” like this. Just like morning on reopening day, I’d imagine this is a one-off and social distancing won’t be a big problem for future cavalcades. That said, it selfishly upsets me, because if anybody sees this and thinks this bodes well for the return of parades and fireworks, they’d be mistaken. If people can’t adhere to the physical distancing guidelines for a “spontaneous” special cavalcade, it doesn’t inspire a whole lot of confidence for what will happen before and after a showing of Happily After Ever. While Disney would love to have parades and fireworks back in the parks, they also seem perfectly content saving the money and moving ahead with reduced hours. They’re not going to take the added risk when they see things like this.

 

[Farro]

I’m hesitant to get too far into this discussion, but I think the idea is that even if everyone pictured feels “comfortable” with the risk they’re taking, they could “carry” whatever they’ve potentially contracted to others (who’ve not made the choice to take that risk) in their homes and communities.

Now, again, it’s one set of pictures and we all kind of know how the “I wanna be first” Disney crowd reacts to any “event” like this. Just like morning on reopening day, I’d imagine this is a one-off and social distancing won’t be a big problem for future cavalcades. That said, it selfishly upsets me, because if anybody sees this and thinks this bodes well for the return of parades and fireworks, they’d be mistaken. If people can’t adhere to the physical distancing guidelines for a “spontaneous” special cavalcade, it doesn’t inspire a whole lot of confidence for what will happen before and after a showing of Happily After Ever. While Disney would love to have parades and fireworks back in the parks, they also seem perfectly content saving the money and moving ahead with reduced hours. They’re not going to take the added risk when they see things like this.

I will say I completely understand the argument that if people don't social distance for this, Disney probably won't bring back fireworks. I understand why that upsets people.

 

[Mit88]

I see this momentary lapse of enforcement was like Christmas morning to someone.

 

[rpb718]

Lol so its fine as long as whatever % less than 100 doesn't involve a covid case then? OK!

Except pandemics don't really work like that. You cant pick and choose when you are compliant and hope the virus is forgiving.

You know, I really appreciate your posts. Sometimes we need an alternate take on things to save us from those who have all their annual WDW apologist magnets lined up on the fridge - however the one thing in this world that is 100% is that we all will eventually pass away. Just like there is no guarantee that you will not get the flu if you get a flu shot, there is also no guarantee you will get COVID if you are temporarily next to someone for 5 minutes outdoors during a cavalcade and you are all wearing masks. Sure there is no guarantee you will NOT get it that way, but the likelihood is negligible due to a variety of factors - like which direction the breeze is. The answer in this case could be blowing in the wind.

 

[LSUmiss]

I don’t get how those crowds are “unsustainable”. That’s a little dramatic, no?

I mean the things pass in like minutes. Gimme a break.

 

[rteetz]

It’s also day one. Lots of bloggers and vloggers out. I’m more interested to see if this continues.

 

[Dentam]

I think the idea is that even if everyone pictured feels “comfortable” with the risk they’re taking, they could “carry” whatever they’ve potentially contracted to others (who’ve not made the choice to take that risk) in their homes and communities.

Exactly, thank you. I get tired of hearing the same argument of "well, I'm comfortable with it and if you're not just don't come". It's a selfish outlook that is so common in this country and doesn't take into account how someone's actions can affect others.

 

[Mit88]

I will say I completely understand the argument that if people don't social distance for this, Disney probably won't bring back fireworks. I understand why that upsets people.

Weeks ago there was no way Disney wouldbring even projections back to the castle after other social distancing incidents that were fixed and resolved.

I’m not saying that they are bringing fireworks back tomorrow, but I guarantee that this incident isn’t the end all be all decision maker on whether they brought back fireworks. What needs to be understood that these things can’t be worked on without real life situations being played out. You can plan for it all day and night and still not have a perfect plan for when it happens. So when it does happen in real life you act and adjust. Same thing will happen if/when fireworks are brought back, or when the castle projections start in November

 

[Krandor]

It’s also day one. Lots of bloggers and vloggers out. I’m more interested to see if this continues.

That's where I am. It isn't a good look but given that it's day 1 I'm not going to judge them on it yet.

 

[LSUmiss]

Everyone best stop saying Disney is safe then if social distancing and mask wearing is "just not going to happen".

Ppl have to assess their own comfort level with risks. That’s the bottom line. It’s a snap shot in time. Those ppl could have been standing that close together for less than a few minutes. If you feel uncomfortable somewhere, leave.

 

[Sandiz08]

Nice to see things improving, but we won’t be back until we can watch Happily ever after and attend a Halloween party!

 

[Mit88]

That's where I am. It isn't a good look but given that it's day 1 I'm not going to judge them on it yet.

Is there an incident that has occurred since the parks opened that have happened in more that one day? 7DMT. Hasn’t happened again. The Land. Hasn’t happened again. MK guest services. Hasn’t happened again

 

[Farro]

Exactly, thank you. I get tired of hearing the same argument of "well, I'm comfortable with it and if you're not just don't come". It's a selfish outlook that is so common in this country and doesn't take into account how someone's actions can affect others.

I'm not selfish, sorry.

Maybe 10 minutes of people being a bit closer than 6 feet apart, masked, outdoors, with freedom to move if uncomfortable. And one time so far.
That's it. Stop making it like I"m saying "take off the masks, sit on top of each other, the virus is over!".

At what point does it become, if you aren't comfortable, don't participate? It will eventually.

 

[Dentam]

I'm not selfish, sorry.

At what point does it become, if you aren't comfortable, don't come? It will eventually.

Maybe 10 minutes of people being a bit closer than 6 feet apart, masked, outdoors, with freedom to move if uncomfortable.
That's it. Stop making it like I"m saying "take off the masks, sit on top of each other, the virus is over!".

Never said that. It is a line that is repeated on these boards ad nauseam though. Look no further than what was posted literally a minute or two after mine. This country has a mentality of "me, me, me" that gets very tiring.

 

[anthony2k7]

I missed that too.

You can't make people be afraid, no matter how hard you try. I wear my mask everywhere. I social distance when able. If I see people socially, I don't visit people who are at higher risk for 14 days. I follow all the rules.

If I'm outside and I choose to be in a situation where I may be closer than 6 feet to others for a few minutes, but we are all masked. I'm fine with that. It would seem from video others are too. Happens all over, every single park I see.

I don't need you to be fine with that, because I am. And no, I don't think the virus is over. How silly to suggest so.

Spare me the looks of horror. I'm not asking anyone else to do anything they aren't comfortable with.

"I'm fine with that" and being "comfortable with" makes this sound like mental health is the issue. It isnt. The virus doesn't suddenly stop if you're doing something you're "fine with" or "comfortable with"


We have a big issue in the uk right now thanks to younger people thinking its OK do to stuff - because they want to, its their right to etc. Our gov health secretary came out with a phrase which I suspect I'd get in trouble for posting - but he was right. Nothing is worth doing because you're "comfortable" with it when you consider his phrase. Unless it's watching a cavalcade apparently.