Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Hi! In my previous post, I said "I wonder if Disney sees this as a concern, and if so, I wonder if we’ll see them adjust park hours or do something at resorts or something to entice people away from Springs". I did not declare this a problem that Disney must fix immediately, nor did I ask Disney (or anyone) to think for or make decisions for anyone else. Several people are reporting that they are skipping Disney Springs or cutting their time there short, so it's clear people are thinking for themselves, and I am not at all trying to prevent anyone from doing that! I also didn't suggest that Disney needs to be making everything a 100% safe bubble for everyone going - that's just not possiblSprings in the evening. I don't know.

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I should have made myself clear and I'm sorry I didn't. I didn't mean to direct my whole post at just you. I had been reading along about what everyone had to say about Disney Springs and I stopped at yours with my thoughts. You got the brunt of all of my thoughts at once unfortunately. Again, I'm sorry. You do make some good points and I hear you completely. For me, I'm not at all worried about Disney making enough money, because there's a small part of me that thinks this is karma for all of the price gauging they've been doing, but those third party businesses that took the risk and pay that enormous rent that it must cost to rent a space there. It's those people that I'm thinking of when I think about them trying to re-direct crowds I guess. Either way, this all just sucks that we even have to discuss something like this. I sure hate it. And btw, can I just say thank you for a kind and thoughtful response? We're all too quick to be nasty when we disagree these days and people seem to have so much trouble hearing other people and being civil when two sides are opposing. :lovestruc
 
It shouldn’t just be a free for all, though.

Clearly, mask and distancing enforcement is an issue at Springs. They can enforce that as a health issue, just like they would if someone was urinating on the sidewalk. And even if someone goes and plans to follow the rules, it’s obvious others won’t. And that’s why enforcement is needed.

If people can’t adhere to mask and distancing rules at Springs, they shouldn’t be there. And if there are too many people there to achieve proper distancing, Disney needs to do something about that.

There is inherent risk in participating in any kind of mass gathering at Disney right now, but from numerous reports, there certainly seems to be an enforcement issue at Springs.

Unfortunately because Springs is a free hangout, there will be issues there. People are willing to take the risk to get tossed because they don’t have anything to lose. Different than getting tossed after paying lots of $$$$ to get into the parks.

I have a feeling that lack of enforcement is going to be how getting back to normal actually starts to happen. There will just be too many people not following the rules to keep up with and gradually Disney will stop trying. I think it's going to be a hot mess with the "Karens" but eventually people will get tired of this and just quit doing it. I definitely don't see it happening where there is a big announcement made but I may be wrong. I think the people will eventually say enough is enough.
 
I don’t at all disagree with your basic premise but then why are they limiting Park capacity?
With the parks all closing early people are funneling to what is open. So maybe they do need to take a look at capacity at DS and manage it similarly to how they are managing Park capacity? Because it seems to me people are using FS as an extension of the park experience now more than ever
True. I am willing to bet it's because of pushback from these third party businesses wanting to be open. I wonder how much Disney worked with them on rent through this?
 
In September the average temperature is a couple degrees cooler. The big difference is when it comes to the heat indexes, especially during the last half of the month when average humidity levels really start to drop dramatically. The last half of September is much more comfortable on average at WDW than July or August.
If you say so lol. Hot is hot to this girl! What I just heard is, "It's more like being under a french fry lamp in September than say a sauna in July" :P :P :P
 
We actually enjoyed a trip in August more so than a trip in June because our Northern bodies had finally acclimated to summer temps before our trip. In June, we were miserably hot. I will say, our trips in Apr/early May were always great temperature-wise.
Whew! I can't even wrap my head around it. lol Then again, I was the little kid laying with my grandmother while she fanned me with a paper plate wondering if I needed to go to the emergency room while the other kids ran around. lol
 
I found it interesting on the news last night (MA/RI) channel, that they actually reported that Disney was tightening their reigns and guests who are going to eat or drink will now have to be "stationary" vs trying to walk around eating/drinking without masks to avoid the mandatory mask policy. I felt it put a positive spin on how Disney is enforcing rules.
 
I have a feeling that lack of enforcement is going to be how getting back to normal actually starts to happen. There will just be too many people not following the rules to keep up with and gradually Disney will stop trying. I think it's going to be a hot mess with the "Karens" but eventually people will get tired of this and just quit doing it. I definitely don't see it happening where there is a big announcement made but I may be wrong. I think the people will eventually say enough is enough.
Not to go too far into the weeds here but I really doubt legal would let Disney just quietly stop enforcing its COVID related policies. When an entity takes on additional duties to keep guests safe, failing to discharge those obligations in a reasonable manner is the basis of negligence claims.
 
Not to go too far into the weeds here but I really doubt legal would let Disney just quietly stop enforcing its COVID related policies. When an entity takes on additional duties to keep guests safe, failing to discharge those obligations in a reasonable manner is the basis of negligence claims.

They also have an agreement with the CM union that I’m sure wouldn’t go over well if all of a sudden they start letting guests do what they want with no enforcement
 
They also have an agreement with the CM union that I’m sure wouldn’t go over well if all of a sudden they start letting guests do what they want with no enforcement
Considering they still can't agree on covid safety with the actors Union im sure they won't be wanting to risk issues with the other unions as well either!
 
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