Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[koszmok]

Just had email from Disney in response to my request for additional park ticket for my granddaughter who turned 3 since our original booking as the UK site is still only allowing 2021 bookings and we are hopefully traveling in November. Mail gives link to purchasing tickets which only takes me back to the UK site so no help. Interestingly mail talks of selecting park hopper ticket, obviously this is a standard out of date reply seems they can't be bothered to actually read people's enquires or update there reply. Just spoke to someone who was unaware of UK web site limitations and have now been cut off. Obviously not very happy

Depending on how many days you`d go .... you can buy ticket only on the phone through the US phone number. I think. Or even on the website If you can choose the US version
I know for sure it`d be more expensive though...

BUT! If you end up not going due that US won`t let people in who were in UK physically 14 days before entering US you would loose your ticket ( I mean no refund I guess)

If UK website would start to sell ticket again and you can`t get into US because of the above mentioned reason I guess you`d be refunded.

I know that UK website started to sell the 2021 holidays with a couple of day delays than the US website so still might be hope...

Personally I won`t see them to start to sell tickets/holiday for 2020 again in UK website until UK guest would let in to US arriving directly from UK.


At this point I`m so desperate and frustrated why won`t US let us in despite our numbers being much more encouraging than US numbers (I too live in UK) to started to play the lottery hoping to win enough money to go in a country to quarantine for 15 days previously entering the US .... not too many country is on the banned list and according to the US embassy`s website UK citizens would be allowed in arriving from not banned country If they spend there more than 14 days prior. I`d be happy to do the quarantine...

I know it`s politics and until there are travel restrictions within the US basically we don`t have any chance



I know I`m crazy but I really really want to go

 

[AmberMV]

It still shows they have an uncontrolled outbreak with nothing slowing it down. Single day cases or positivity are meaningless because they bounce around so much. The average trend for both are still showing upwards which means Florida is yet to peak which means it will continue to get worse.

It also shows their testing is failing because these are backlogged test results. Every single time Florida does a massive dump of backlogged tests it’s positivity sinks. Then it shoots Right back up.

Florida has been open for 2 months now. The bottom line is that no other state is going to experience the devastation that NY did. Why? We don't know. But if we were going to see it 8 weeks open would have seen it.

 

[marinejjh]

Florida has been open for 2 months now. The bottom line is that no other state is going to experience the devastation that NY did. Why? We don't know. But if we were going to see it 8 weeks open would have seen it.

Except South Carolina. They are close to shutting the state down. I'm pretty sure Disney will treat SC the same as the tri state area for quarantine requirements.

 

[anthony2k7]

Florida has been open for 2 months now. The bottom line is that no other state is going to experience the devastation that NY did. Why? We don't know. But if we were going to see it 8 weeks open would have seen it.

Wait a bit longer.

 

[Farro]

Guest services update. While there were no major lines this morning Disney has now put down a long stretch of distancing markers at the MK guest services area to hopefully fix any future occurrences based on what happened yesterday.

Learning and adapting. This is how we will all keep moving forward.

 

[TakesFaithTrust&PixieDust]

Florida has been open for 2 months now. The bottom line is that no other state is going to experience the devastation that NY did. Why? We don't know. But if we were going to see it 8 weeks open would have seen it.

You’re right. I believe Florida is peaking right now. No matter how many results are dumped it’s still a percentage. That means we are trending down. I think the mask mandate and closing the bars has helped. When NY peaked the whole country shut down and other states hadn’t peaked at that time. We’re seeing that now across the country. It appears Disney is doing an incredible job in keeping guests and cast as safe as possible. It’s now up to us to follow the rules during this difficult time.

 

[rteetz]

Missing my point completely! I didnt say disney lied at all.

Forecast vs actuals. Pretty basics of running a business.

I would imagine disney doesn’t have it built so they have to hit their max daily capacity in order to make any sort of impact on their losses.

 

[Jothmas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282306677111488515

In the 48 years I’ve been going to WDW, I’ve never experienced the parking lot not being open at a park, so it’s not clear to me what’s happening or what people are doing if the lot is not open. At DAK specifically, if someone arrived at the park at 7am, but parking didn’t open until 7:30, can you get into a line at the parking booth, or are cars prevented from turning onto an entry road?

 

[anthony2k7]

I would imagine disney doesn’t have it built so they have to hit their max daily capacity in order to make any sort of impact on their losses.

We know they aren't hitting their max capacity though because reservations were still open during yesterday for all except APs without resort stays I believe?

 

[AmberMV]

In response to the NY comparison, nobody has anywhere near NY numbers, and this isn't a place to debate numbers in other states. This is about Florida's theme parks, and other theme parks and cruising.

 

[rteetz]

We know they aren't hitting their max capacity though because reservations were still open during yesterday for all except APs without resort stays I believe?

Yes but like I said if disney was losing more money than before they wouldn’t be open.

 

[anthony2k7]

Yes but like I said if disney was losing more money than before they wouldn’t be open.

And like I said, they wouldn't know until they had some actuals to compare against.

They will probably want a full week of results to compare, plus wait on DHS and Epcot to see what that does to the numbers.

If attendance doesn't improve, and its way off their expectations then in a couple of weeks it wouldnt surprise me if there were massive cuts (maybe park or resort closures) or a full shutdown.

Again, we don't know what their expectations are though so they may be happy with what they have. I doubt it though.

 

[cakebaker]

The positivity rate is 11.25% for that huge amount of results. Florida hasn’t been that low in weeks.

My one post on this subject in this thread. 11.2% when you run that massive number of tests is insanely bad. We run under 10k a day, under 3% pop. and we're getting a mandatory mask order next week. The more tests you run, the lower the pop should be. That dropped is what would be expected to happen. Expected doesn't mean good.

 

[rteetz]

And like I said, they wouldn't know until they had some actuals to compare against.

They will probably want a full week of results to compare, plus wait on DHS and Epcot to see what that does to the numbers.

If attendance doesn't improve, and its way off their expectations then in a couple of weeks it wouldnt surprise me if there were massive cuts (maybe park or resort closures) or a full shutdown.

Again, we don't know what their expectations are though so they may be happy with what they have. I doubt it though.

And I think they are happy. They would surely much rather be open than stay closed.

 

[cakebaker]

And like I said, they wouldn't know until they had some actuals to compare against.

They will probably want a full week of results to compare, plus wait on DHS and Epcot to see what that does to the numbers.

If attendance doesn't improve, and its way off their expectations then in a couple of weeks it wouldnt surprise me if there were massive cuts (maybe park or resort closures) or a full shutdown.

Again, we don't know what their expectations are though so they may be happy with what they have. I doubt it though.

I can't prove it, but I cannot imagine they are even at the break even point with the number of guests they've been having. I know what they said, they aren't always completely open with the public about the financials of operating. Maybe if they factor in the income from the NBA, but without that- not a chance they're making a positive contribution. It's entirely possible they're willing to wait and see if things improve and are willing to operate at a loss for a short period of time.

 

[Brianstl]

Yes but like I said if disney was losing more money than before they wouldn’t be open.

Exactly, the number of people in the parks isn’t as important to Disney bottom line as the per guest spending numbers those guests generate. I don’t know how people can’t understand that after years of quarterly reports spelling that out since Chapek took over the park and resorts division.

 

[EmJ]

You’re right. I believe Florida is peaking right now. No matter how many results are dumped it’s still a percentage. That means we are trending down. I think the mask mandate and closing the bars has helped. When NY peaked the whole country shut down and other states hadn’t peaked at that time. We’re seeing that now across the country. It appears Disney is doing an incredible job in keeping guests and cast as safe as possible. It’s now up to us to follow the rules during this difficult time.

Remember when Florida’s 9,000 cases a day was a data dump? And then the next day, when it happened again, it was a peak. Then the cases went to 10,000 a day, then 11,000 a day, and now 15,000 a day. I know everyone wants to believe Florida is peaking because that’s a much nicer thought than what the evidence actually shows, which is that it is spinning massively out of control. I’m sorry (not really though), but the situation in Florida is the stuff of nightmares right now, and nothing in that state should be open aside from grocery stores and hospitals. Definitely not theme parks, regardless of whatever rules they put in place. I’m just sick over all of this

 

[rteetz]

Exactly, the number of people in the parks isn’t as important to Disney bottom line as the per guest spending numbers those guests generate. I don’t know how people can’t understand that after years of quarterly reports spelling that out since Chapek took over the park and resorts division.

Just look at how quickly that splash store emptied. Yes it’s personal shoppers but that’s money in Disney’s pocket either way.

 

[rteetz]

Moving on from Covid numbers talk please...

 

[anthony2k7]

And I think they are happy. They would surely much rather be open than stay closed.

Maybe. I just can't see them running with everything fully open, plus all the extra CM hrs cleaning and managing social distancing with the parks being empty.

We'll have to wait and see.