Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[WallEFan00]

if you take a look at the survey on the mask thread you can see that it's pretty 50/50 right now, like I've said many times, Disney is in a lose/lose situation, whatever they do, someone will be upset about the decision.

Right. Where I live, masks were suggested not required for the first 6 weeks of quarantine. During that time, there was a fair amount of people choosing to wear masks but no one argued over them. After 6 weeks of non-mandated masks, our Governor decided that they were mandatory in stores with the exception of people who could not medically tolerate it. Now, in stores people are about 80% wearing masks but the ones who are not are being confronted, called names, and harassed. You do not know why someone is not wearing a mask. It may be defiance but it also might be none of your business. The mandate has turned many people into mask vigilantes. People may have a legal exemption from wearing a mask and you have no right to ask about their personal medical history.

 

[UOAP]

Guess you haven't been in Home Depot or Lowe's lately, lack of masks haven't slowed them down one bit.

People don't have to go to Disney to fix their dishwasher or whatever. A trip to Disney is superfluous, which is exactly why Disney cannot afford to host a COVID cluster.

 

[ScubaCat]

So what are they going to do when people are riding the roller coasters and the masks fly off and land on the tracks? Nobody's even going to see that until the next train comes along and by then it's too late. They're not going to want masks getting tangled in the wheels.

They'll have to update the big thunder warning. "If you're wearin' masks... BEST HANG ON TO 'EM!"

 

[UOAP]

So what are they going to do when people are riding the roller coasters and the masks fly off and land on the tracks? Nobody's even going to see that until the next train comes along and by then it's too late. They're not going to want masks getting tangled in the wheels.

Not to mention all the masks they'll be fishing out of the water rides from little kids taking them off and throwing them into the water or onto the tracks of rides like Haunted Mansion. Remember last year when HM shut down for three days and they said it was because they found a hat from a Woody doll lodged in one of the wheels of the Doom Buggies that jammed up the whole works? That'll be happening a lot when little kids have to wear masks they don't want to wear.

None of the problems you list go away with masks being recommended and not required.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Right, but problem is Summer lasts approximately 355½ days a year in Florida, so that doesn't leave much wiggle room.

*recalls almost fainting in Epcot in early Nov a few years back*

...You sir/m'am are correct!

 

[LSUmiss]

Since they're committed to it I think waiting it out is wisest. Wait it out until people are used to it or it's not 90 degrees with 80% humidity. And they still haven't said what to do with your mask in the rain. Not that it rains in FL very often.

So then Nov or late Oct. lol! B/c our trip in early Oct last yr was just as hot as our July trip.

 

[jerry557]

Won't go away, but the threat level for the overwhelming majority of people will be understood better

We are going to be getting to a point of "COVID-fatigue" pretty soon. It's just like how a population eventually gets war fatigued. We can't remain on this type of footing indefinitely without long-term consequences. The mental health impact is being vastly underestimated. I read a report from Australia recently that they are already seeing a spike in suicides. We got so many people now unemployed in the US and losing their businesses. And now you got the "new normal" with all these new restrictions with masks and social distancing with no end in sight. There is going to be a spike of anxiety and depression cases and some people aren't going to do well handling that.

 

[xuxa777]

People don't have to go to Disney to fix their dishwasher or whatever. A trip to Disney is superfluous, which is exactly why Disney cannot afford to host a COVID cluster.

Venture to say their are a lot of people there not for essential reasons, picking out flowers to plant is just as superfluous. If Disney was such a risk to host to a cluster of Covid like you are suggesting they already would have had one

 

[LSUmiss]

Like someone said earlier. Chapek addressed the masks with the summer heat, They might be inclined to push the opening to the fall

Idk I feel like that means they will try to open in summer b/c they’re acknowledging wearing them in the heat will be a challenge. Why even bring that point up if they were looking at fall.

 

[xuxa777]

We are going to be getting to a point of "COVID-fatigue" pretty soon. It's just like how a population eventually gets war fatigued. We can't remain on this type of footing indefinitely without long-term consequences. The mental health impact is being vastly underestimated. I read a report from Australia recently that they are already seeing a spike in suicides. We got so many people now unemployed in the US and losing their businesses. And now you got the "new normal" with all these new restrictions with masks and social distancing with no end in sight. There is going to be a spike of anxiety and depression cases and some people aren't going to do well handling that.

Add into the "Covid-fatigue" the more new info that the virus is not as deadly outside of the elderly and high risk. Disney will not have be as stringent

 

[rpb718]

They'll have to update the big thunder warning. "If you're wearin' masks... BEST HANG ON TO 'EM!"

Why does this keep coming up? I see people with glasses on all the time and those stay on. They have things that loop behind the head for glasses and masks.

 

[jerry557]

People don't have to go to Disney to fix their dishwasher or whatever. A trip to Disney is superfluous, which is exactly why Disney cannot afford to host a COVID cluster.

Then they shouldn't re-open at all if it is that unsafe.

 

[rpb718]

Add into the "Covid-fatigue" the more new info that the virus is not as deadly outside of the elderly and high risk. Disney will not have be as stringent

"Welcome to Disney, a family-friendly destination - but leave the grandparents at home"

 

[JaNelson38]

People don't have to go to Disney to fix their dishwasher or whatever. A trip to Disney is superfluous, which is exactly why Disney cannot afford to host a COVID cluster.

If you expect nobody to catch COVID while at Disney, they might as well bulldoze the entire place now. Because it will happen at some point.

You can't legislate the elimination of disease, whether its COVID or anything else. Disney is almost certainly looking at regulations from the opposite point of view - they want as few regulations as possible while balancing health as best they can. Because with each added regulation means another segment of people who won't visit.

 

[LSUmiss]

So what are they going to do when people are riding the roller coasters and the masks fly off and land on the tracks? Nobody's even going to see that until the next train comes along and by then it's too late. They're not going to want masks getting tangled in the wheels.

Not to mention all the masks they'll be fishing out of the water rides from little kids taking them off and throwing them into the water or onto the tracks of rides like Haunted Mansion. Remember last year when HM shut down for three days and they said it was because they found a hat from a Woody doll lodged in one of the wheels of the Doom Buggies that jammed up the whole works? That'll be happening a lot when little kids have to wear masks they don't want to wear.

Or on the guests behinds them

 

[Eric Smith]

If he refuses to give a time, and he's stating masks are likely to be required while acknowledging they'll be trying during the summer, I almost think that points more to a fall opening.

I actually think a mention of likely requiring masks would point to an opening sooner rather than later. People will have to suck it up and deal with it or not go.

 

[LSUmiss]

Why is it a terrible look? Hundreds of people stroll their local Wal-Mart and grocery store on a daily basis without them, and nobody really cares. I shopped yesterday and I would venture to say 7 out of 10 customers didn't wear a mask, and the great majority that did have masks on were older folks who are the type of people who need to take precautions anyway.

Gotta remember that other than the indoor attractions and the eating places, WDW is pretty much an all-outdoor experience. You're not breathing recycled air. You're usually not right next to someone you don't know for an extended period of time. The people that would be "outraged" at folks at WDW walking around without masks probably wouldn't visit WDW anyway.

Right especially if ppl are socially distanced for the most part. That will help much more.

 

[MrsBooch]

Do you guys think a time limit will ever be enforced? Like you can be in one park no more than 4 hours then you have to go? I wouldn't mind wearing a mask if I knew I was only going to have to wear it for 2 hours, or 4 hours...
I said it out loud and it sounds like a terrible suggestion buuuut I've seen worse....

 

[anthony2k7]

Venture to say their are a lot of people there not for essential reasons, picking out flowers to plant is just as superfluous. If Disney was such a risk to host to a cluster of Covid like you are suggesting they already would have had one

And whichever thread it was which had numerous people posting "we got back in x and I think I had it" perhaps suggests they did already have one.

Fact is, pre lock down testing was almost non existent. So, no one knows if they really had it back then or not.

 

[UOAP]

Why is it a terrible look? Hundreds of people stroll their local Wal-Mart and grocery store on a daily basis without them, and nobody really cares. I shopped yesterday and I would venture to say 7 out of 10 customers didn't wear a mask, and the great majority that did have masks on were older folks who are the type of people who need to take precautions anyway.

Gotta remember that other than the indoor attractions and the eating places, WDW is pretty much an all-outdoor experience. You're not breathing recycled air. You're usually not right next to someone you don't know for an extended period of time. The people that would be "outraged" at folks at WDW walking around without masks probably wouldn't visit WDW anyway.

They don't need to visit WDW to get COVID from someone who went to WDW. That's the point. If Disney became a cluster source, it would endanger a lot of people who are just trying to go about their lives without extraneous risk. And that could prevent smooth reopening of other businesses. That is why DIsney has to be careful. Imagine if they were the reason some meat packing company couldn't reopen. There is going to be more effective contact tracing moving forward vs the initial peak.