Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Mit88]

And then you have those of us who don’t believe any of the leaks. There has not been a single post here that started out with “I have a source” or “a CM told me” and then go on to reveal details, that I believed at all. I want them open, but these leaks are just silly. I pay a great deal of attention to the opinions of a very few posters that I’ve found to be reliable over the years. But none of those have ever tried to act like they somehow have inside information - if they have it, they keep it to themselves. Not to say I don’t love Sven or whatever his name is - I just don’t believe him.

Everyone seems to know someone that knows someone high up in position at Disney right now. I wish I had those types of friends or relatives

 

[LSUmiss]

Keeping the Flower and Gardens elements maintained all this time should (to the common sense eye) point to a sign saying that Disney was thinking of reopening before May 31st.
Why kept them up if they were thinking of not reopening before the festival closed?

OR it’s b/c they weren’t going to spend the money to put down whatever they put in the summer until they know they would open in the summer. And why pay crews to do it until they need to.

 

[JacknSally]

According to a few people on Twitter, UO sent out a survey today sampling opinions on various opening dates from June 1 - December 1.

Survey screenshot in the bottom tweet of the thread screenshot attached.

 

[vinotinto]

Seems like a good time to remind everyone the DIS has an ignore feature. If you don't like anything about someone, click their username and ignore and you won't have to see stuff from them again (you will also have a little notification that says "show ignored content" if users you have ignored post content so the option to see it will be there).

From the mini-tutorial, it seems you are well-versed in the use of the "Ignore" button.

All kidding aside, it's a good reminder.

 

[Mit88]

I tend to agree with your careful statement. Disney has a sterling reputation. The last thing they would want to do is rush to open and have a hot spot of infections be tied to them. They would then be painted as the big company that only wants to make profits and their "good will" would be damaged.

They were painted with that brush when they were still open 4 days after they announced their closure. The media couldn’t wait to write about the 1 person that contracted the virus that went to Disney (but was also in Orlando for a work conference). And then the closing day crowd pictures had people going nuts on twitter about how Disney was purposely trying to kill people. Disney is in a position where there’s no chance they can satisfy 100% of the population, but they already knew that they never reached that satisfaction in the first place

 

[vinotinto]

The only place you will get "facts" is from Disney. That is not going to happen anytime soon. I was on the earnings call and every question about the parks reopening was answered in vague non-answers. They talked around the questions. The only questions they gave a pretty good answer for was park capacity in which Bob Chapek said he felt that due to pent up demand they feel that they will fill the parks at whatever reduced capacity they open at. If they are not giving Wall Street straight answers then I believe the "press release" announcing park openings is still some time away from happening. So, until Disney decides to give us facts, all we can do is speculate.

Absolutely. It's still a very fluid situation, with multiple data points coming in daily that they have to factor in. But, they have to be careful about what they say on the earnings call. This is not a press conference or a blog post. They cannot say anything that could later be misconstrued as not being transparent with investors, or they can get into big trouble with the SEC. Therefore, anything that is not pretty set in stone will simply not be shared on an earnings call. They don't have an opening date yet. They probably are working towards multiple potential opening dates and "if-then" scenarios. Until they have an opening date, they need to avoid giving any "hints," especially at an earnings call.

 

[vinotinto]

According to a few people on Twitter, UO sent out a survey today sampling opinions on various opening dates from June 1 - December 1.

Survey screenshot in the bottom tweet of the thread screenshot attached.

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Interesting. And Universal keeps asking its Passholders, while Disney continues to be tight-lipped.

 

[midnight star]

Interesting. And Universal keeps asking its Passholders, while Disney continues to be tight-lipped.

I was just about to say this! I wish we could get surveys!

 

[gottalovepluto]

From the mini-tutorial, it seems you are well-versed in the use of the "Ignore" button.

All kidding aside, it's a good reminder.

Oh I am!! That has saved my bacon from saying things I ought not to people who really couldn't care less I'm fairly certain Keeps the peace plus I won't get kicked off the DIS for taking someone DOWN lol

 

[Mit88]

Interesting. And Universal keeps asking its Passholders, while Disney continues to be tight-lipped.

Disney waits to hassle their guests about surveys until they’re inside of the parks. Maybe they’ll let us all In on June 1st, but just to pull as aside inside the gate to ask survey questions and then ask us to leave

 

[yulilin3]

Absolutely. It's still a very fluid situation, with multiple data points coming in daily that they have to factor in. But, they have to be careful about what they say on the earnings call. This is not a press conference or a blog post. They cannot say anything that could later be misconstrued as not being transparent with investors, or they can get into big trouble with the SEC. Therefore, anything that is not pretty set in stone will simply not be shared on an earnings call. They don't have an opening date yet. They probably are working towards multiple potential opening dates and "if-then" scenarios. Until they have an opening date, they need to avoid giving any "hints," especially at an earnings call.

I think they have a date set but are waiting for the data to come in first . They're not going to give that date until 100% sure they can open. They've gone through being optimistic before and it has bit them in the butt, Rivers of Light and Rise of the Resistance come to mind. To make matters worse in this particular case it's something they can't control so we, as guests, will have almost no heads up from them

 

[SaintsManiac]

Oh I am!! That has saved my bacon from saying things I ought not to people who really couldn't care less I'm fairly certain Keeps the peace plus I won't get kicked off the DIS for taking someone DOWN lol

I am glad I don’t have anyone on ignore in here. Now the community forum is a different story...

 

[Mit88]

I am glad I don’t have anyone on ignore in here. Now the community forum is a different story...

The community boards is stressful enough just looking at the title of the threads. I can only imagine what they look like inside.

 

[SwirlTheCitrus]

Random, but did anyone else watch the meeting for the OC economic recovery task force last night? One of the members suggested that UO, Disney, and SW "work together to help reopen florida-- that they could talk and figure out a united front, and have the same guidelines so that everyone knew that Florida was open for business (when it happens)".

He was laughed at-- obviously the situation is not sure enough for competitors to work together..

Edit: link to video: it was in the last quarter

 

[DGsAtBLT]

According to a few people on Twitter, UO sent out a survey today sampling opinions on various opening dates from June 1 - December 1.

Survey screenshot in the bottom tweet of the thread screenshot attached.

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Florida theme park fans: It looks like we’re getting multiple signs pointing to June 1st openings!

Universal Orlando: Hold my Butterbeer.

 

[MusicalAstronaut]

I agree. I also think they don't want to announce any opening too far in advance in order to avoid an influx of people as soon as the parks open. They probably want to try to gradually ramp up crowds as much as possible with all of the new processes they are likely going to have to put in place.


I would guess that they probably have a planned date in mind right now and that date is probably in early June but I would expect them to back off if the situation with the virus gets worse over the next couple weeks.

we will know a week ahead of time when DS because CM will share that they are scheduled, but yes, they might not give any official (DPB) statement about it

These make a lot of sense. If Disney knew 100% that they were opening July 1st and they announced it today, I'm sure there would be a flurry of people booking trips. If they wait until the last minute to announce to the public, maybe it'll be easier for them limit & control crowds since there'll be a ramp up as people can actually get there. I was looking at Spirit flights for June and they're sparse at best.

 

[MusicalAstronaut]

Florida theme park fans: It looks like we’re getting multiple signs pointing to June 1st openings!

Universal Orlando: Hold my Butterbeer.

OT but mmmmmmm butterbeer. I can't wait to have (hot) butterbeer again!

 

[yulilin3]

OT but mmmmmmm butterbeer. I can't wait to have (hot) butterbeer again!

The best one.

 

[yulilin3]

Random, but did anyone else watch the meeting for the OC economic recovery task force last night? One of the members suggested that UO, Disney, and SW "work together to help reopen florida-- that they could talk and figure out a united front, and have the same guidelines so that everyone knew that Florida was open for business (when it happens)".

He was laughed at-- obviously the situation is not sure enough for competitors to work together..

Edit: link to video: it was in the last quarter

It's going to be very similar but I can tell you before the parks closed universal was doing a better job at having hand sanitizer at the entrance touchpoints, around the park, TM wearing masks and gloves. Disney was not as visible and didn't have sanitizer at the entrance.
I think there's a sense of "we're all in this together" around central Florida business and im sure we'll see a unified front with some smaller changes from company to company

 

[Krandor]

Kind of like how this pandemic became reality when they closed.

I think when March Madness shut down is when the pandemic really became reality. Similar idea to disney though - they were the Goliath in the room at the time and tha shutdown made people notice.