Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[CAQDaddy]

If a mask can stop even one particle from landing on a surface, then it helped (albeit a nominal amount).

It has been empirically demonstrated that wearing a helmet while you drive reduces your chance of death/injury in a car crash. I haven't seen anyone wearing on on the highway.
I agree that one particle avoided means that it helped, but is it worth the trouble to avoid one particle?

 

[mshanson3121]

It has been empirically demonstrated that wearing a helmet while you drive reduces your chance of death/injury in a car crash. I haven't seen anyone wearing on on the highway.
I agree that one particle avoided means that it helped, but is it worth the trouble to avoid one particle?

Except they stop a lot more than one particle. That's been shown in studies for years, long before COVID. But we're not allowed to discuss whether masks work or not.

 

[shanes17]

Anyone know how to contact a moderator or site admin?

If you are one and reading this, reach out to me via PM please.

TIA

 

[mshanson3121]

Anyone know how to contact a moderator or site admin?

If you are one and reading this, reach out to me via PM please.

TIA

I think you can just use the @ sign and tag them:

@rteetz

 

[shanes17]

I think you can just use the @ sign and tag them:

@rteetz

thank you

 

[CAQDaddy]

Except they stop a lot more than one particle. That's been shown in studies for years, long before COVID. But we're not allowed to discuss whether masks work or not.

I'm not suggesting that masks won't help, it's just in the grand scheme of things at the parks, I don't think they will help that much. All the things that guests touch like hand rails and lap bars and on and on. To me masks just seem like more futility.

 

[nate6966]

My post is gone. Did I break some rule and an admin deleted it?

 

[mshanson3121]

I'm not suggesting that masks won't help, it's just in the grand scheme of things at the parks, I don't think they will help that much. All the things that guests touch like hand rails and lap bars and on and on. To me masks just seem like more futility.

I think it's more a matter of needing a multi-faceted approach. Masks on their own won't be enough. Just like hand washing or staying 6' apart on their own aren't enough. In the real world, in Disney, we'll see multiple methods used, for sure.

 

[rteetz]

My post is gone. Did I break some rule and an admin deleted it?

The more we stay on topic the less we have to remove.

As a reminder for everyone this thread is about Walt Disney World and Disneyland (and even other theme park operations). We can and should discuss current news regarding COVID-19 and what Disney is doing. We also can discuss rumors about potential things Disney may do to reopen the parks.

Thanks!

 

[mshanson3121]

An interesting read, and something to consider re: Disney:

"On the basis of these results the scientist advises that for walking the distance of people moving in the same direction in 1 line should be at least 4–5 meter"

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/b...alk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

 

[Farro]

An interesting read, and something to consider re: Disney:

"On the basis of these results the scientist advises that for walking the distance of people moving in the same direction in 1 line should be at least 4–5 meter"

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/b...alk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

I understand the science.

To put into everyday practice is just unrealistic and unenforceable.

 

[rteetz]

I understand the science.

To put into everyday practice is just unrealistic and unenforceable.

Especially at Disney. They would go through a lot of masking tape for the ground.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Especially at Disney. They would go through a lot of masking tape for the ground.

I think we might see a lot of spots/lines painted on the ground on open as Disney makes some attempts at social distance. And then over the years as the ground gets torn up and replaced it could be integrated into the walkways/lines as a different color or something.

 

[rteetz]

I think we might see a lot of spots/lines painted on the ground on open as Disney makes some attempts at social distance. And then over the years as the ground gets torn up and replaced it could be integrated into the walkways/lines as a different color or something.

Oh I definitely think there will be areas of that. I just don’t think you can do it in every possible space. There is a lot of talk about mass use of more boarding group/virtual queue usage. I think some if not all shows will be looked at for how they can space people or change seating arrangements too.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Burning Man (August 30th - September 7) has been cancelled. https://www.rgj.com/story/life/arts...an-2020-canceled-tickets-refunded/5132668002/

It draws around 80,000 people. Less than Disney World on an average day.

 

[Krandor]

I understand the science.

To put into everyday practice is just unrealistic and unenforceable.

Of course nobody is going to enforce that outside of closing parks and trails.

The bottom line here is we have enough people in america that are just not going to ever do any kind of lockdown, masks, etc. Just not going to happen. So in the US we are going to simply have to deal with this thing for a long while which sucks. Things will open back up in a month or two but until there is a vaccine we are going to always be taking a risk anytime we go out and it will be up to us to decide what level of risk we are comfortable with. Businesses like disney are going to have to adapt and make people feel more comfortable in order to get more businesss. There are going to be people that say "I'm not a wimp. I'd be back today if I could" but also people who will be hesitant. I'm in the latter. I have recovery reservations for september and season tickets for auburn football in the fall. As of today I'm nervous about going to either. While I'd likely be mild to moderate from hearing people talk mild to moderate is still a horrible time. I don't want to deal with that if I can avoid it.

So Disney/bars/restuarants are going to need to do things to help make people feel safe. We can argue how effective they are but people are going to want that. Same goes for football and the like.

 

[xuxa777]

An interesting read, and something to consider re: Disney:

"On the basis of these results the scientist advises that for walking the distance of people moving in the same direction in 1 line should be at least 4–5 meter"

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/b...alk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

That is not a peer reviewed study or even a scientific study, it is a simulation by aerodynamic experts not biologist etc. It is pretty close to opinions by posters on here, it is basically what these guys think could happen.

 

[Krandor]

That is not a peer reviewed study or even a scientific study, it is a simulation by aerodynamic experts not biologist etc. It is pretty close to opinions by posters on here, it is basically what these guys think could happen.

Simulating what could happen is not in the same category as an opinion. No it isn't peer reviewed but there is data there you an look at and from where I look the date looks pretty good and is something I have thought about when I run.

 

[Farro]

Of course nobody is going to enforce that outside of closing parks and trails.

The bottom line here is we have enough people in america that are just not going to ever do any kind of lockdown, masks, etc. Just not going to happen. So in the US we are going to simply have to deal with this thing for a long while which sucks. Things will open back up in a month or two but until there is a vaccine we are going to always be taking a risk anytime we go out and it will be up to us to decide what level of risk we are comfortable with. Businesses like disney are going to have to adapt and make people feel more comfortable in order to get more businesss. There are going to be people that say "I'm not a wimp. I'd be back today if I could" but also people who will be hesitant. I'm in the latter. I have recovery reservations for september and season tickets for auburn football in the fall. As of today I'm nervous about going to either. While I'd likely be mild to moderate from hearing people talk mild to moderate is still a horrible time. I don't want to deal with that if I can avoid it.

So Disney/bars/restuarants are going to need to do things to help make people feel safe. We can argue how effective they are but people are going to want that. Same goes for football and the like.

I respect your stance.

Myself, I will feel comfortable in crowds, at Disney, at restaurants and bars. I will certainly be more aware of touching face, washing hands, etc., but I certainly will be happy to go ahead with life as close to normal as possible with or without vaccine. It's just my guess more than half of others will too.

I'm not advocating for it all to happen now, but certainly not waiting for a vaccine. Or even more outlandish, a zero death-rate.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Burning Man (August 30th - September 7) has been cancelled. https://www.rgj.com/story/life/arts...an-2020-canceled-tickets-refunded/5132668002/

It draws around 80,000 people. Less than Disney World on an average day.

The uh... “closeness” factor of burning man far exceeds contact of people at WDW... shockingly enough