Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[tink2424]

Serious question here....and I'm not saying you're right or wrong or anyone else who shares a similar opinion as you posted. But this is a point of view I'm hearing a lot. And for those with this opinion regarding Disney - or any other business for that matter - this is a question that needs to be answered. I'll try to ask it below the best I can:

There's not going to be a vaccine for this until - at the soonest - next year. POTUS an others seem very optimistic and that is great, but the facts are that any vaccine for anything hasn't been developed in less than 2 years. Facts are, there may never be a vaccine; a lot of people are taking for granted that we will have one. While some treatments look promising, there may never be a treatment that drastically reduces the effects of this virus. We as a country have succeeded in what the stated, original goal for all of these shutdowns, lockdowns, etc was - not overwhelming the hospitals with a severe initial spike they could not handle. There was never a goal of eradicating this virus, because that's simply not possible, as we have found out in this country over the past two months. So, the question is: what is the point of "waiting" to re-open? What is going to change between, say, June 1 or June 30? Nothing. There still won't be a vaccine. If the protocols that would be in place on June 30 wouldn't change from what would be in place a month earlier, and Disney feels they are safe enough to re-open and they have the capability to open, then what is the point of waiting?

And I'm not arguing that Disney should or shouldn't be open. But the reason why a question like this needs to be answered by those who share this opinion is because millions of people - and Disney employees are included - have no job right now because of this. There are consequences to decisions like, "Well, lets just wait a little longer to re-open..." And the longer that takes, the more permanent some of these decisions become. We as a society continue to try and come up with a perfect solution for a problem where there is no perfect solution. Its an illness...that's the bottom line. Just like all of the other illnesses out there. Some are affected worse than others, just like all the other illnesses out there. Some die from it, just like all the other illnesses out there. I'm of the opinion that we need to learn to LIVE WITH this disease, just like all the others. Because the longer we put that off, the longer it takes for us to actually learn the information that so many want to know about it.

Its clear Disney is taking the steps to re-open at some point in the very near future with yesterday's announcement of DS re-opening. In my view, that should be supported. And we need to hope that it will be successful. Disney can take the lead in helping our country heal, move forward, and learn to live with this disease. Its a tremendous opportunity that should be supported, no matter whether anyone thinks its "too early" or not. Because if Disney shows they can do it at their parks, it can be done across the country in every other walk of life.

I pray it works. I pray it all goes according to plan. Because we're at a tipping point in our country right now.

Just my two cents.

I LOVE this!! I think so many people feel this way. I would love real solutions to allow people to start to get back to a "normal" way of life. I already see myself and others are fatiguing to the heightened vigilance that you need in public. It would be great to have real guidelines and plans moving forward.

 

[Dis5150]

I think if there is one thing I want for my birthday today it’s to not have to deal with this thread constantly. Can we not go into politics and all that?

Happy Birthday Ryan! @rteetz

 

[Jrb1979]

My family would obey any requirements. So many will not. We live in an atmosphere where some are mocking those who take precautions and will flaunt not following the rules. This is the reality. Maybe I’ve lost faith in my fellow humans. I can see many fiddling with their mask throughout the day, lowering it as the blast Zs in Buzz, breathing on those blasters for the next person to handle, and the next, etc. There are so many occurrences of bad behavior without covid. Sorry, just too many with a “me first” attitude when it comes to Disney. It will be a very melancholy or hostile atmosphere for awhile.

Exactly. People can't even follow the simple guideline of staying 6 ft apart. That's the easiest part.

 

[Jrb1979]

I LOVE this!! I think so many people feel this way. I would love real solutions to allow people to start to get back to a "normal" way of life. I already see myself and others are fatiguing to the heightened vigilance that you need in public. It would be great to have real guidelines and plans moving forward.

Til there is a cure or vaccine this is the normal. Physical distancing will be in place. Disney included. Its really not hard to stay 6 ft apart.

 

[Bibbobboo2u]

No wonder it’s such a hot topic. Looks to be almost 50/50 so far.

I voted earlier this week and am in the no-mask group because I know how hot and miserable a mask in FL heat and humidity will be (live in similar climate), and that is not my idea of a fun vacation. However, Disney appears to have found its 50%, and I hope everyone who goes has a great time and stays safe!

 

[The Pho]

News

Europa Park reopening May 29

https://www.europapark.de/en/info/all-information-regarding-re-opening

 

[yulilin3]

Toilet paper and snoopy face mask cakes at Knotss Berry Farms (please lets not go into an argument about how all of them are constantly touching their masks) I forget who said we might see a mask specialty cupcake at WDW lol

 

[Tjddis]

The reason I have been saying it's too early to open Disney and theme parks in general is cause of people. A lot of people are already ignoring physical distancing or wearing masks. Imagine when Disney opens, within a week people will go back to ignoring the rules the Mouse put out.

I'm not saying we should stay home til a vaccine comes but it would help if people would continue practicing physical distancing.

Frankly that is a big reason I would not go during phase 1. Wife and I went to supermarket today and it was shocking. No physical distancing, masks not covering anything, people touching everything. No everybody of course but enough. I’m sure WDW would do their best, but I see it as a major source of tension that will cause issues between guests and drive my enjoyment level down

 

[tink2424]

Til there is a cure or vaccine this is the normal. Physical distancing will be in place. Disney included. Its really not hard to stay 6 ft apart.

Maybe (I don't think this will be the new normal for long but we can disagree about that)... However if this is the new normal why can't we open more things up? Like the OP that I quoted what exactly are we waiting for? It is a serious question that I haven't seen answered. Waiting for a cure or a vaccine will definitely take too long.

Then if you want to go by the federal guidelines most states aren't following that either... So what exactly are we all looking for? It is a genuine question.

 

[Mit88]

Toilet paper and snoopy face mask cakes at Knotss Berry Farms (please lets not go into an argument about how all of them are constantly touching their masks) I forget who said we might see a mask specialty cupcake at WDW lol

I watched FB and Adam the Woo’s videos yesterday. I was surprised to see they were allowed inside the restaurant to order food. The toilet paper cakes were amazing, and look rather delicious

 

[tink2424]

News

Europa Park reopening May 29

https://www.europapark.de/en/info/all-information-regarding-re-opening

I posted this a little while back too... I"m supposed to be going late September so I will definitely be watching to see how the summer goes. Obviously it will also depend if they let me in the country...

I do think this will be a good idea of how opening WDW will go and if it will cause the disease to spread. Their park is very similar to WDW.

 

[Jrb1979]

Maybe (I don't think this will be the new normal for long but we can disagree about that)... However if this is the new normal why can't we open more things up? Like the OP that I quoted what exactly are we waiting for? It is a serious question that I haven't seen answered. Waiting for a cure or a vaccine will definitely take too long.

Then if you want to go by the federal guidelines most states aren't following that either... So what exactly are we all looking for? It is a genuine question.

I think a lot of businesses are some what afraid of the consequences if they do open now. People can't follow physical distancing now. You add in a bunch of people at a theme park not doing and the chance of a outbreak goes up. This is now on us to work together to life back to somewhat normal by physical distancing. We have seen that a lot can't and that is why theme parks are taking their time.

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Maybe (I don't think this will be the new normal for long but we can disagree about that)... However if this is the new normal why can't we open more things up? Like the OP that I quoted what exactly are we waiting for? It is a serious question that I haven't seen answered. Waiting for a cure or a vaccine will definitely take too long.

Then if you want to go by the federal guidelines most states aren't following that either... So what exactly are we all looking for? It is a genuine question.

To answer your question about why more can’t open all at once, a slow and steady opening is easier to monitor the impacts of and also easier to roll back if it proves to spike numbers too high in an area.

I don’t know exactly what the benchmark is for allowing openings. I know here they are allowing more places to open than are willing, places are waiting until they have proper PPE and training in place to keep their employees safe.

 

[wallawallakids]

I think if there is one thing I want for my birthday today it’s to not have to deal with this thread constantly. Can we not go into politics and all that?

Happy birthday!! I hope you get lunch. (And a lot of cake.)

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Boy a miss the days when the big debate was ac in the Skyliner. Lol.

I’m thinking they’ll be some transport drama to come once the parks open, don’t you worry!

 

[mshanson3121]

Toilet paper and snoopy face mask cakes at Knotss Berry Farms (please lets not go into an argument about how all of them are constantly touching their masks) I forget who said we might see a mask specialty cupcake at WDW lol

Haha, I love it. I mean seriously, you might as well make the most of the situation and have some fun with it!

 

[jerry557]

https://mickeyblog.com/2020/05/08/tickets-to-a-reopened-shanghai-disney-sell-out-within-minutes/

 

[DGsAtBLT]

I'm definitely not in the "masks violate muh constusional rites" group, but it's kind of hot and uncomfortable just wearing one at the grocery store. I'm surprised they don't make it an indoor only rule. I'd be ok to flip it on when I go into a shop or indoor attraction, but in 90 degree heat? I can barely tolerate AK half the time *without* a mask. With a mask, I'd need a paramedic following me for when I pass out. (good news is they won't have to wait long)




This is what we're dealing with....

They might make it an indoor only rule. I don’t think we really know what it will look like in practice. We don’t even know if masks will be required by the time the parks open.

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

You really think Disney is going to kick people out if they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask? Not happening.

Yes I do. Because if you have a medical reason that a mask affects you that bad, you shouldn’t be going to these places until it’s safe and masks aren’t needed anyway.

 

[LSUmiss]

Doesn't it seem that Disney is just following city and county regulations as far as masks go? Shanghai required them, so Disney required them. Orange County requires them now (as of last Friday) for guests and customers if they can't stay six feet away, so Disney requires them at Disney Springs.

It would make sense that if Shanghai eases their requirement for masks, then Disney will soon follow. Same in Orange County. It makes sense that if Orange County does not require guests to wear masks in theme parks, Disney will not require masks at the theme parks. Didn't Orange County theme park guidelines say masks are recommended but not required?

Right now, Disney has not had to make its own decisions regarding masks. They've just followed the requirements of the places where they are located. I'd be surprised if they want any more restrictions on guests (i.e., on their own income) than they are required to place.

And Happy Birthday! Thanks for all you do for these boards.

I didn’t realize this about OC. I don’t think wdw has a choice then. Maybe “appropriate face coverings” will also end up being when appropriate. Disney could have been much more firm & explicit. But said vague things like “appropriate” & “according to government regulations” etc.