Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[xuxa777]

https://mickeyblog.com/2020/05/08/tickets-to-a-reopened-shanghai-disney-sell-out-within-minutes/

Same thing will happen here

 

[EveDallas]

Yes I do. Because if you have a medical reason that a mask affects you that bad, you shouldn’t be going to these places until it’s safe and masks aren’t needed anyway.

Let's see who's right. Time will tell.

 

[SaintsManiac]

https://mickeyblog.com/2020/05/08/tickets-to-a-reopened-shanghai-disney-sell-out-within-minutes/

Important to note this was "well below the approved capacity."

 

[xuxa777]

The same can really be said for most places. Tourism in general never used to be the main economic factor for most places. Tourism just wasn't then what it is today. It's exploded globally. As far as Florida is concerned, while the growth of the tourism industry there is definitely in part attributed to Disney, there are many other players and factors, too.

Biggest factor was air conditioning and South Florida beaches early on

 

[OnceUponATime15]

@rteetz

Happy BirthdayRyan!!

 

[jade1]

I stayed clear of those I could and finished my business as quickly and efficiently as possible and got out. I even asked a few people to please back up. But there is a huge difference between getting needed supplies for my children and paying to be in an amusement park...if you were inferring some connection between my desire to avoid WDW for now and my grocery shopping.

Nope, totally agreeing with you.

Although we have have tons of grocery delivery services and also do not shop together like you did.

We have the exact same thing here, as they will with WDW.

My guess is concerned folks will stay away.

 

[LSUmiss]

Exactly. People can't even follow the simple guideline of staying 6 ft apart. That's the easiest part.

I actually think the masks contribute to that problem. Ppl are stupid. They think the masks protect them. I feel like I’ll be fine in Disney b/c going to Walmart is ridiculous. So if I can survive that, I can survive anything. Ppl have on the masks everywhere & then stand on top you.

 

[Jroceagles]

Same thing will happen here

how will they take into account the tickets already purchased? example I am going in late August but bought my park hoppers months ago..

 

[LSUmiss]

I voted earlier this week and am in the no-mask group because I know how hot and miserable a mask in FL heat and humidity will be (live in similar climate), and that is not my idea of a fun vacation. However, Disney appears to have found its 50%, and I hope everyone who goes has a great time and stays safe!

I wonder how many ppl who think they would be willing to wear them live in similar climates. Even if you have been to wdw in the summer before, it’s easy to forget just how miserable it can be if you don’t also live in a similar climate.

 

[cakebaker]

Yes I do. Because if you have a medical reason that a mask affects you that bad, you shouldn’t be going to these places until it’s safe and masks aren’t needed anyway.

Disney can’t throw people out of the parks because they “ shouldn’t” be there. That’s ludicrous. Unless they want to tell people they can’t come if they have a medical condition - trust me, they won’t- they can’t ban people for making poor decisions. Realistically, if you can’t wear a mask due to a medical condition, you aren’t going to have to. I don’t think there’s going to be a mask requirement simply because it’s not something Disney wants to have to enforce.

 

[charmed59]

How do you feel about wearing a mask at Disney parks?

• Thread starter jmstroud
• Start date Wednesday at 9:29 AM

How do you feel about wearing a mask while at a Disney Park?
If wearing a mask means the parks can open sooner, I'll wear one. I just want to be able to go!
Votes: 112 52.1%
Wearing masks would detract from the Disney experience I love so much! I won't go if I have to mask
Votes: 103 47.9%

Total voters 215

Hmm, how do we reduce the number of people that want to return to Disney by half....Masks! Voila!

 

[Tjddis]

Nope, totally agreeing with you.

Although we have have tons of grocery delivery services and also do not shop together like you did.

We have the exact same thing here, as they will with WDW.

My guess is concerned folks will stay away.

Yeah suppose we could be called out for shopping together. Frankly I told my wife to stay home but she saw how stressed out I got last time I went she wanted to support the effort
We did delivery for a while, but last few times had to go to the store anyway cause so much was out of stock. Now we cant even get a delivery slot

 

[LSUmiss]

how will they take into account the tickets already purchased? example I am going in late August but bought my park hoppers months ago..

That’s what I’m wondering.

 

[tink2424]

To answer your question about why more can’t open all at once, a slow and steady opening is easier to monitor the impacts of and also easier to roll back if it proves to spike numbers too high in an area.

I don’t know exactly what the benchmark is for allowing openings. I know here they are allowing more places to open than are willing, places are waiting until they have proper PPE and training in place to keep their employees safe.

Good points & I agree it shouldn't be a free for all but definitely a defined plan with dates and measures would be nice. I know we don't know everything but it doesn't make sense that Target/Walmart can be open but Old Navy can't. We can take the lessons we are learning and keep refining them.

The other BIG key is true factual data going out to everyone so that each person can decide for themselves (or their business) if they want to open or to go to stores or whatever. I can't see the current state lasting too much longer (meaning the shelter in place mandates).

 

[DynamicDisneyDuo]

I could agree with your post if you said something like some hand sanitizers aren't effective on a virus so it's important to make sure you buy the right sanitizers.

You could have gone with a slightly modified version of that one sentence and not potentially come across to some in a less than flattering light with the stuff about fake news, trolls and bogus information.

 

[C&Jx2]

And how about Tarpon Springs? Greek sponge divers

My old stomping grounds!

 

[gottalovepluto]

Doesn't it seem that Disney is just following city and county regulations as far as masks go? Shanghai required them, so Disney required them. Orange County requires them now (as of last Friday) for guests and customers if they can't stay six feet away, so Disney requires them at Disney Springs.

It would make sense that if Shanghai eases their requirement for masks, then Disney will soon follow. Same in Orange County. It makes sense that if Orange County does not require guests to wear masks in theme parks, Disney will not require masks at the theme parks. Didn't Orange County theme park guidelines say masks are recommended but not required?

Right now, Disney has not had to make its own decisions regarding masks. They've just followed the requirements of the places where they are located. I'd be surprised if they want any more restrictions on guests (i.e., on their own income) than they are required to place.

And Happy Birthday! Thanks for all you do for these boards.

Yes that makes sense. But emotions trump common sense always on the internet.

 

[Hjs33]

Disney can’t throw people out of the parks because they “ shouldn’t” be there. That’s ludicrous. Unless they want to tell people they can’t come if they have a medical condition - trust me, they won’t- they can’t ban people for making poor decisions. Realistically, if you can’t wear a mask due to a medical condition, you aren’t going to have to. I don’t think there’s going to be a mask requirement simply because it’s not something Disney wants to have to enforce.

Disney parks are private property. They have the right to refuse entry to anyone for whatever reason they feel is appropriate and especially so if they feel it poses a danger to other guests. So I do believe they will have a mask requirement and also have a right to deny people entry if they refuse to wear a mask, even if it’s due to a medical condition. Also, on a more personal responsibility level, someone with a respiratory issue is a high risk individual and probably should not be going out in large groups until this blows over.

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

Disney can’t throw people out of the parks because they “ shouldn’t” be there. That’s ludicrous. Unless they want to tell people they can’t come if they have a medical condition - trust me, they won’t- they can’t ban people for making poor decisions. Realistically, if you can’t wear a mask due to a medical condition, you aren’t going to have to. I don’t think there’s going to be a mask requirement simply because it’s not something Disney wants to have to enforce.

When a poor decision affects the health and lives of other people at the place, yes they can. As I have said, if you have a medical condition that stops you from wearing a mask, you should be the last person out during this during the beginning openings, and I don't see how Disney could allow them on property without masks when obviously people who are on the property who have required masks to protect themselves and others are following rules. They already will be somewhat worried during all this. There are arguments and fights over waiting in line for churros. Imagine health and safety with masks.

There is all hearsay at the moment anyway, and I hope for the best outcome for all

 

[DavidHobart]

I was surprised by this in that article. I would have thought the break even point would be much lower. But maybe with all the extra measures that will need to be taken and the reduced capacity of restaurants is why it so high.
Comcast executives recently told investors that they would need 50 percent attendance to break even on their Universal theme parks.

The way the math is usually done, "breakeven" means that incremental cash revenues, minus incremental cash variable costs, exceed fixed costs.

So if U is thinking this way, that's a higher standard than the "positive contribution margin" standard Chapek set, which means that incremental cash revenues exceed incremental cash variable costs.

Since the fixed costs don't go away whether open or closed, the Chapek standard is the minimum standard for reopening ("lose less money if open than if closed").

The U standard is more about longer-term economic sustainability--when the entire enterprise of the parks generates positive cash flow, in total.

Most reporters have no idea what any of these terms mean, or how they differ...