Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Looking at flights in October, I already booked for $90 round trip and thought it was a steal. Now I’m finding $52 round trip flights from the Tri State area. Gonna have to rebook my flights. That’s like 5 churros worth of savings, or 1 drink at Trader Sams, if they’re open
Reports like this make me so sad. Our flights from BIL (Montana) have stayed consistent or gone up throughout the pandemic. In the case of United, we’ve lost our early flight out that made it possible to land in time for dinner.
 
Looking at flights in October, I already booked for $90 round trip and thought it was a steal. Now I’m finding $52 round trip flights from the Tri State area. Gonna have to rebook my flights. That’s like 5 churros worth of savings, or 1 drink at Trader Sams, if they’re open

I am so jealous, that’s cheaper than a round trip cab ride 20-30 mins away. 😭
 

Looking at flights in October, I already booked for $90 round trip and thought it was a steal. Now I’m finding $52 round trip flights from the Tri State area. Gonna have to rebook my flights. That’s like 5 churros worth of savings, or 1 drink at Trader Sams, if they’re open
I can get $54-$66 round trip from MA for most dates I’ve checked in Oct/Nov/Dec. I still check every couple of days even though I am not going anywhere. 😂
 
I did find it interesting that in July, KS was seated every other row, and in August, it was seated every row.

Seems like that was not a unique experience! I'm sure this kind of thing is going to continue changing and being re-evaluated throughout the year, it will be interesting to watch. I can't wait to go back eventually post-pandemic and enjoy a nice savannah breeze again though, it gets really stuffy with all the dividers right now.
 
So if you don’t call they’ll just take your money and not provide the service? Not very Disney-like.
I agree that requiring people to explicitly request refunds that they are owed is not the most customer friendly. However, since people with 2020 park hoppers can use those tickets until 9/26/21, Disney can't just refund all the hoppers because people might want to hold onto them and use them next year.

I suppose that, if they wanted to, they could trigger an automatic refund if you actually use your tickets while hopping is suspended, but that would involve getting the ticket systems and the billing systems talking to each other in a new way, and Disney may not think that it's worth the development effort to address a temporary issue.

Right now the only official policy says to contact Disney for you refund options.
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/experience-updates/parks/#modifications
 
Lots of Incredibles themed safety commercials airing during sports here. First I’ve seen.
Disney marketing genius! Associate safety and cleanliness with Disney characters. Character cavalcades at the parks. The parks, therefore, are clean and safe. Travel to WDW (or insert other open park) is safe!

After halftime, “Let’s go There” and Return to the Magic ads will run.
 
I agree that requiring people to explicitly request refunds that they are owed is not the most customer friendly. However, since people with 2020 park hoppers can use those tickets until 9/26/21, Disney can't just refund all the hoppers because people might want to hold onto them and use them next year.

I suppose that, if they wanted to, they could trigger an automatic refund if you actually use your tickets while hopping is suspended, but that would involve getting the ticket systems and the billing systems talking to each other in a new way, and Disney may not think that it's worth the development effort to address a temporary issue.

Right now the only official policy says to contact Disney for you refund options.
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/experience-updates/parks/#modifications
Right, I mean if you show up to a trip the second week in January and park hoping still isn’t available, I wonder if that triggers an automatic refund or if you’d be contacted about options. Totally get it isn’t an automatic thing right now for all open PH tickets, that wouldn’t make sense. It will be interesting to see what they say ahead of 1/1/21 as most of us seem in agreement that park hopping, despite being sold, most likely won’t be available quite yet.
 
Disney marketing genius! Associate safety and cleanliness with Disney characters. Character cavalcades at the parks. The parks, therefore, are clean and safe. Travel to WDW (or insert other open park) is safe!

After halftime, “Let’s go There” and Return to the Magic ads will run.
18+ year marketing vet here so I find it fascinating. On food network I was seeing the more family friendly Magic is Here ads with Christmas undertones, appealing to the moms perhaps? But on sports networks it’s turned into more of the Incredibles graphics and safety messaging. Appealing to the dads perhaps?
 
It was never smart to assume the crowds would die down completely after Labor Day because of previous year trends. Well, this isn’t “previous years”. Nothing about this year is anything like we’ve ever lived through, unless someone in this thread is 102 years old. While it wasn’t a certainty that the crowds, or at least the wait times would increase after Labor Day, there was no way to accurately predict that they would certainly go down either.

I think it’s time to throw out crowd level prediction sheets, at least for a while.
 
Right, I mean if you show up to a trip the second week in January and park hoping still isn’t available, I wonder if that triggers an automatic refund or if you’d be contacted about options. Totally get it isn’t an automatic thing right now for all open PH tickets, that wouldn’t make sense. It will be interesting to see what they say ahead of 1/1/21 as most of us seem in agreement that park hopping, despite being sold, most likely won’t be available quite yet.
Yeah, the 2021 hoppers are a big question mark right now. What will they do if hopping is still suspended 1/1/21? Who knows? Maybe they'll extend 2021 tickets and keep the same "call us" refund policy as 2020 hoppers. Alternatively, I wouldn't be surprised if they choose to do weekly rolling hopper refunds until hopping returns (like they did with reservations during the shutdown). It's all speculation, of course, until Disney makes an official decision (which these days seems to always be at the last possible minute).
 
It was never smart to assume the crowds would die down completely after Labor Day because of previous year trends. Well, this isn’t “previous years”. Nothing about this year is anything like we’ve ever lived through, unless someone in this thread is 102 years old. While it wasn’t a certainty that the crowds, or at least the wait times would increase after Labor Day, there was no way to accurately predict that they would certainly go down either.

I think it’s time to throw out crowd level prediction sheets, at least for a while.
Agreed. And alot of the increased crowds I think comes from the release of more park pass availability they've been doing, as well as CM being allowed to bring friends and family again.
 
Agreed. And alot of the increased crowds I think comes from the release of more park pass availability they've been doing, as well as CM being allowed to bring friends and family again.

It’s getting more difficult to argue that they havent increased capacity. The buckets are full, then they’re refilled, then they’re filled again. Sure, it could be cancellations. But it’s not like Disney is going to tell anyone that they’re increasing capacity, that would be a PR disaster. And its not information that’s definitely going to leak out. I think making excuses of why it’s busy now is getting a little redundant. “School hasn’t started yet. The hours are shorter. The sun is positioned just right in Animal Kingdom to give guests a perfect tan”. Whatever the case may be, the parks are busier than anyone thought they’d be the week after Labor Day
 
It’s getting more difficult to argue that they havent increased capacity. The buckets are full, then they’re refilled, then they’re filled again. Sure, it could be cancellations. But it’s not like Disney is going to tell anyone that they’re increasing capacity, that would be a PR disaster. And its not information that’s definitely going to leak out. I think making excuses of why it’s busy now is getting a little redundant. “School hasn’t started yet. The hours are shorter. The sun is positioned just right in Animal Kingdom to give guests a perfect tan”. Whatever the case may be, the parks are busier than anyone thought they’d be the week after Labor Day
Its getting more difficult cause they took more spots from the resort guests that aren't showing up and letting in more AP holders and CM's. You know the people Lex Luthor calls low on the totem pole for spending.
 
It’s getting more difficult to argue that they havent increased capacity. The buckets are full, then they’re refilled, then they’re filled again. Sure, it could be cancellations. But it’s not like Disney is going to tell anyone that they’re increasing capacity, that would be a PR disaster. And its not information that’s definitely going to leak out. I think making excuses of why it’s busy now is getting a little redundant. “School hasn’t started yet. The hours are shorter. The sun is positioned just right in Animal Kingdom to give guests a perfect tan”. Whatever the case may be, the parks are busier than anyone thought they’d be the week after Labor Day

Yep and i had booked my free dining bounceback for this weekend thinking the weekend after Labor Day would be a slower weekend. Glad I made the decision to cancel that trip because based on what I'm seeing/hearing I dont think I'd have had a good time.
 
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