Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[shoegal9]

I know Disney hasn't called the cultural reps back yet, but does anyone have any idea how the president's new executive order against visas is going to affect them?

It doesn’t. They come on Q visas (aka the “Disney visa.”) The EO from Monday applies to H1B, L visas, and J-1s.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Universal definitely won this battle, by chance if nothing else. Had Disney opened with Universal, when the numbers looked much, much better, Disney wouldn’t be looking at opening at a time when the numbers are worse than when they closed.

As far as DLR, I have no doubt they’re using the state issuing guidelines as their reason because what else could they say? To admit they were caving to employee demands or even that the stats are just too bad to open sounds much worse. Better to blame it on the state it would seem to me.

Ever since someone pointed out WDW would probably open on the hottest day of the year I can’t shake the thought that they’ll time Peak COVID...

CA hasn’t given approvals to any theme parks to open. The other big SoCal theme parks were hoping to reopen on 7/1 so State needed to give guidance or a signal this week. And they just did. Guidance in CA comes when approval dates come, the state has not moved into the deeper part of Phase 3 that allows theme parks to open. It really is on the State here.

I think the Unions are more of an annoyance that Disney might be blessed with a chance to get them to come around. The employees were headed back even though they weren’t happy.

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

Your logic is flawed. I never said Disney shouldn't open. I clearly stated that opening while Florida is in the middle of a major outbreak is a huge issue. I have reservations for mid-July and feel Disney is making the place as safe as possible; the problem is that it isn't safe enough. This is no fault of their own. The employees are the issue. They live and frequent establishments in the community. Thus, community spread will infect some of their employees. Their employees will be working in the resorts and parks. They will spread the virus. If the numbers continue at their current exponential pace, math is not in Disney's favor. I never said Disney "were a bunch of meanies". I also never said they should wait for a vaccine. Unfortunately, those in charge at the state and federal level have made poor decisions for which we all, Disney included, must pay. And I can assure you that Disney is NOT safer than my grocery store. My county in NY is testing at around 1% and Orange is over 15%. If Orange County gets its numbers down to 1%, you might have a case, until then, it's a silly argument.

Let’s stop with the poor decisions by officials. People who aren’t wearing masks and aren’t being safe are their own decisions. When cases were so low in florida, everyone was praising them, and now they are in trouble and everyone is against them. We need to support every state affected. Not by judging, but by helping. Every elected official in the country can tel you something, but some people just won’t listen. People did what they wanted to do and still are. People are still going out not caring about it, even with record cases. Why do people think citizens of a state just listen. Sometimes, they just don’t.

And Disney would have a zero PR issue if people got infected at Disney. You know why? Cause any person going to Disney now knows the risk and is gladly taking it. It’s their decision. The CMs are working because they want to make the money and work. So if people go to Disney, knowing all the risks, seeing Disney do everything they can do to protect you, no it won’t cause a PR problem. Nobody would be surprised if it happened. Disney would have taken every step to keep everyone safe. Sometimes enough isn’t enough. Can’t help that. I hope everyone who goes stays healthy and enjoys themselves.

I don’t see them not opening.

We will see in a few weeks

 

[Mit88]

Yeah legally apparently they can't keep the DVC resorts closed. They've really gotten themselves into quite the pickle by having subsidized their resorts by having the public help pay for the construction costs so they can't close the DVC resorts again. DVC is a timeshare. I think IF Disney delays reopening of the parks they should, at minimum, offer free park tickets to DVC owners for their troubles. I mean, what does a free admission to the theme park cost Disney? Nothing. But it would probably make the DVC issue less of an issue in the eyes of the DVC owners.

Yeah, that could go over well, but that would be on a case by case basis. If members wound up losing points because they had trips planned that were cancelled and they were borrowed points, and they couldn’t use them before the extension period ended, then a park ticket probably wouldn't make up for the lost points

Not to mention, I’m guessing us DVC members will still be receiving, or still paying (monthly) our member dues. As far as I know, we’re still paying the normal full year of dues while not being able to use our memberships for 3 months. Now if shut back down, and we’re talking 4, 5, 6 months of non usage, plus having to pay 12 months worth of dues, and potentially having a future points issue...Hurricane season would have nothing on that storm

 

[Mit88]

Let’s stop with the poor decisions by officials. People who aren’t wearing masks and aren’t being safe are their own decisions. Every elected official in the country can tel you something, but some people just won’t listen. People did what they wanted to do and still are. People are still going out not caring about it, even with record cases. Why do people think citizens of a state just listen. Sometimes, they just don’t.

And Disney would have a zero PR issue if people got infected at Disney. You know why? Cause any person going to Disney now knows the risk and is gladly taking it. It’s their decision. The CMs are working because they want to make the money and work. So if people go to Disney, knowing all the risks, seeing Disney do everything they can do to protect you, no it won’t cause a PR problem. Nobody would be surprised if it happened.

You also had to agree to the terms of agreement when making your parks reservation which has in the clause that they’re not liable for any positive COVID cases and entering the parks is under the guest’s discretion

 

[heaven2dc]

Your logic is flawed. I never said Disney shouldn't open. I clearly stated that opening while Florida is in the middle of a major outbreak is a huge issue. I have reservations for mid-July and feel Disney is making the place as safe as possible; the problem is that it isn't safe enough. This is no fault of their own. The employees are the issue. They live and frequent establishments in the community. Thus, community spread will infect some of their employees. Their employees will be working in the resorts and parks. They will spread the virus. If the numbers continue at their current exponential pace, math is not in Disney's favor. I never said Disney "were a bunch of meanies". I also never said they should wait for a vaccine. Unfortunately, those in charge at the state and federal level have made poor decisions for which we all, Disney included, must pay. And I can assure you that Disney is NOT safer than my grocery store. My county in NY is testing at around 1% and Orange is over 15%. If Orange County gets its numbers down to 1%, you might have a case, until then, it's a silly argument.

Can I ask if you want or have hope that WDW will open any time this year? With all due respect, your statement that employees are the issue because they live and frequent establishments, etc. doesn't make sense to me. Guests also live and frequent establishments in a community. Guests outnumber the amount of cast members on a given day. I hope the parks open on time but if not, it is for the best for cast members and guests.

 

[MrsBooch]

I would be fine with a resort only stay if the parks are closed - I'm DVC and I spend one of our two yearly vacations at either Vero Beach DVC or Hilton Head - so i'm cool with no parks if there are no parks open to go to - I was holding my breath to see what would be available at resorts without parks and it's actually kind of a lot more than i thought.

1. pools are open (at least both are in my fave resorts - poly, CCV and OKW
2. kids splash pads are open
3. pool activities, crafts and games are still going on (trivia, bingo, etc)
4. slides are open
5. pool bars are open, resort restaurants, lounges and quick service are open (for the most part)
6. you can still get grocery delivery and we book a one bedroom every time so YAY
7. Golf is open - we are a golfing family so this is HUGE
8. Disney Springs is open

I don't think that's too shabby - it would make for a nice little getaway from the same four walls we've been staring at since March 6. My 5 year old has been around his parents exclusively for too long - he is starting to talk like he's in his late 30's. This morning he was annoyed that I was taking too long to get ready for our walk and yelled upstairs - "what are you doing up there? I'm not getting any younger. Lets rock and roll".

....yes sir.

I would welcome a resort only stay.

 

[Gabrielle Broughton]

Welp, you jinxed it.

C'mon y'all, we've already had a whole string of posts deleted today. Let's not go there again.

Someone on the resorts board said Jambo House has been pulled from the list of resorts opening July 10. I can't find that list or an updated list on Disney's site, though. Anyone have a link?

 

[JacknSally]

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Thank you! Do you have the link? I want to bookmark this page, lol.

 

[Gabrielle Broughton]

Thank you! Do you have the link? I want to bookmark this page, lol.

I took the screen capture from the MDE app but here's the link from the website.
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/experience-updates/resorts/

 

[JacknSally]

It did get pulled! I'll try and get screenshots soon.

ETA: Never mind. Screenshots posted above.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/experience-updates/resorts/

Thank you both!!!

 

[gottalovepluto]

Where does this leave Grand CA DVC? The state gave approval for GCH to open...

 

[heaven2dc]

Thank you both!!!

I second that thank you....oh wait should it be I third that? (Quarantine brain!)

 

[RamblingMad]

Disneyland opening delayed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/disneyland-delays-its-reopening-date-beyond-july-17.html

 

[rteetz]

Can never have too much of a good thing I guess. A weeks worth of news saved us from political and mask drama for a while but here we are again...

 

[SaintsManiac]

Can never have too much of a good thing I guess. A weeks worth of news saved us from political and mask drama for a while but here we are again...

It’s literally an echo chamber for the last 10 pages or so. I gave up.

 

[JacknSally]

Reposting this info...

Jambo House was slated to reopen July 10 but has been pulled from the list and has not yet been rescheduled for another date.

Link to the list below for anyone else who wants to keep up with it.

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/experience-updates/resorts/

 

[MrsBooch]

Where does this leave Grand CA DVC? The state gave approval for GCH to open...

Good question.
I wonder if it opens up like the WDW DVC resorts and just - is a resort. No park.

 

[anthony2k7]

Lots of discussion on social media about the Disneyland reopening delay and Disney World. A few articles popped up today that I hadn't seen from some mainstream outlets. Very interesting.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news..._source=twCNN&utm_content=2020-06-25T01:15:06https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...d-19-cases-spike-n1232022?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

"Uptick"!? Understatement!

 

[anthony2k7]

For sure, it will be the same groups as Universal: marketing, group events, private venues and tours, etc

It will be more than that I think.