So I joined WW because my company paid for it. I have not attened in years but was able to do the diet on my own and maintain my weight fairly well. NOW it is not a diet but a " life style change" blah blah blah. What upset me was that they try to sell you things like used car salesmen telling us that we would be more successful if we purchased them. Like a start up kit for 75.00! AHH my insurance just paid you 156.oo so I could come and be weighed in don't you think you should give me more than a number on a scale? If I had wanted a tupperware party I would have hosted one! I decided that since the Winning Points Diet ALWAYS worked for me and each new incarntion of WW is based pretty much on the same thing I was going to just do WP and then go for the weigh in and lecture. I lost my points slider! IN the past I had found a website where you could print and make your own points slider? I have searched and searched but still cannot find this site. Anyone know what it is? I have a friend who works for WW and she told me that the POINTS PLUS and now the Points Plus 360 was not the success that they had hoped. SO rather than waste my time I am going with the one that is tried and true.