Crash beats Brokeback!!! Yay!

[swea_pea1]

Bravo Dakota_Lynn! Bravo!!!!!

 

[LukenDC]

As to the James Dean referance, it was a movie made to glorify a counterculture, it influenced a large part of that generation that would have never even come into contact with that type of lifestyle if not for that movie.

Rebel Without a Cause was about the consequences of parents withholding love and understanding from their teenage children. Given the number of problems surrounding children of broken homes and indifferent parents, I'd say that Rebel Without a Cause was right on target with its message.

 

[mick67]

Dakota Lynn....you have many supporters here. Morality judgements are usually based on nothing more than fear, but you probably know that better than me. I think our great country has taken a step back in the last few years, but that's the pace of progress...two forward one back. Freedom and liberty are the true ideals of this country and will always prevail in the end.

 

[LukenDC]

Dakota Lynn, I am so glad that you're on my side!

 

[SeattleRedBear]

Bravo Dakota_Lynn! Bravo!!!!!

My feelings exactly!! Thank you for articulating it so well! Now I need to go buy something Danish!

 

[bubie2.5]

And to those of you who would like to say my post is too harsh...

Not harsh at all, especially if you compared it to being called immoral.

I guess harsh would be if I called all the homophobes here HIPOCRITS... after all, they're using and taking advantage of a site graciously maintained by a so called "immoral one".

 

[beckmrk04]

Your post just invigorated me. I have always fought hard for my rights and the rights of other gay and lesbian people. But my 14 year old daughter who is also a lesbian will have to face people like you. I, at this moment, am rededicating myself to fight the battle against the likes of you. You will not dictate to my child who she can marry and how she will live her life. She will live her life with the same freedom as heterosexuals if it takes every last breath in me to fight this battle and WIN it.

We're here to stay. I suggest you learn to live with it.

And to those of you who would like to say my post is too harsh; imagine coming to the DIS and being told that your life lacks morals and values and that it is not "right." Imagine being told that your life with your heterosexual partner is a "lifestyle" and an unacceptable one at that. It's all a bunch of bull and I am here to say her post is insulting and offensive. A racist wouldn't get on the DIS board and make negative comments about the group they hate; if they did they would be banned in the beat of a heart. So why then is it ok to come on here and say that many of the DIS posters are living immoral lives? I will not apologize for my post. I will not relax. I will not chill. And I will not take a pill. I am pissed off that she is allowed to make such comments regarding dozens of people in the DIS community but if I spoke my honest opinion about her, I would be banned.

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Good for you!! I would neither suggestthat you are out of line, because you're not, nor that you should relax, because the fight isn't over!! But don't worry-plenty of straight people rooting for your rights and your daughters! I'm one of them!!

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

Oh my, and here I was expecting to be flamed!

 

[phamton]

In my original post I said that there were major problems in the fifties, but, people weren't afraid to go outside at night.

Well I am a child of the 50's. I was born in 1950 in Texas. You are correct in that we weren't afraid to go outside at night. I spent many summer evenings playing "kick the can." We stayed out after dark playing games and rode bikes or roller skated during the days. No one locked their doors and everyone left their car keys in the cars. Ahh, the happy carefree days of the 1950's.

Unfortunately, I was molested by the kindly grandfather that lived next door. He lived with his daughter and her husband who were best friends of my parents. They sat on the front porch many days with my parents drinking iced tea while the kids played happily in the yard...A picturesque scene right out of "Leave it to Beaver." Unfortunately, no one knew of the monster who lived next door. Even after the truth came out, no one went to the police. It was just too humiliating back then. It was all just a dirty little secret that was hidden away. My father confronted this grandfather and he just moved to another town to live with another daughter---probably to continue molesting children in the new town.

Things were so beautiful in my hometown. The Blacks lived in one part of town and were not allowed to mingle or even go to schools with the whites. We had seperate restrooms and drinking fountains clearly labelled "Whites only" and "Colored." There was no eating in the restaurants together with African Americans and whites. "Negroes" ate in a back kitchen at the restaurant. They were welcome to go to the only movie theater in town but must sit in the balcony away from the whites.

Rape was never publicized. The family kept it a secret because it was too shameful and, of course, date rape was never heard of. Everyone knew if you were raped on a date that you "led the boy on."

We also had no mentally challenged children. Most Down Syndrome children or blind or deaf children were sent to live in state homes. Families sent away almost all disabled children except for the ones who were "crippled" by polio. That was OK, because they weren't born with a disability. One year, I had a blind girl in my class in 2nd grade. Her parents insited that she be educated in the public schools. She lasted a couple of months before the school board determined that she couldn't fit in there. She, too, was sent off to a state school.

There were still kidnappings, murders, wifebeaters, child beaters, molesters, and even gays but it was mostly all kept under wraps or whispered about. We knew how to keep secrets back then.

 

[mick67]

Phamton...that was a touching commentary. And a tale not dissimiliar to DW's family, and I suspect many others. Thanks.

 

[beckmrk04]

phamton- Thank you. Beautifully written.

 

[eclectics]

Oh my, and here I was expecting to be flamed!

Can't see how anyone could flame you for your post. Rock on!

 

[Dakota_Lynn]

Phantom, my mum who was a child in the 50s has a similar story of abuse. She told me when I was a teenager in the 80s about how her mother abused her in truly horrible ways. I remember asking her "but why didn't you tell anybody...?" And her answer was "it was the 50s and people just didn't talk about such things."

Yikes! I can't imagine living in such a time. We may have our problems in 2006, but I'd rather live in this time than a time when society turned its back on victims of abuse, rape and domestic violence. And how awful that disabled kids were sent away. And my daughter can't even imagine a world where blacks are forced to be separate from whites. I tired to explain it to her and the whole idea of racism is so confusing to her that it leaves her baffled. Her mind can't even comprehend why somebody would want a black person to sit in the back of a bus. Thank God for our more open minded 2006! Yeah, we have our problems, but I think overall we are much better off today.

 

[beckmrk04]

And my daughter can't even imagine a world where blacks are forced to be separate from whites. I tired to explain it to her and the whole idea of racism is so confusing to her that it leaves her baffled. Her mind can't even comprehend why somebody would want a black person to sit in the back of a bus.

This is what gives me hope for the future.

 

[Free4Life11]

I thought Crash was WAY too over the top. It had a good message, BUT the extremes of the movie made the message not as good for me. I'd much rather see a movie with the more SUBTLE racism I see on a daily basis. That would have much more meaning to me.

Brokeback Mountin was good. I enjoyed the story, but it was a little overdramatic for my liking. And too long and too slow.

Good Night and Good Luck was a snoozefest. Most boring movie of the entire year.

And I didn't see Munich or the other movie.

Personally, I think "Lord of War," "The Constant Gardener," or "The Weather Man" should have won Best Picture. All three were excellent in movies in my book!

 

[JPN4265]

They are not cowboys, they are sheep herders. Big difference. Sheep don't mind, but the cows would be scared.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Sugar,
Did you really see the "Pimp" movie? I did but the movie you describe is not the one that I saw.

 

[RobinMarie]

Bravo Dakota_Lynn! Bravo!!!!!

Here Here! You ARE right, we are much better off today but we are not where I believe we should be.

 

[mickeyfan2]

We all go to the movies for different reasons , and none are better than the other.

I must be the odd one here. I never go to the movies to change my life or learn anything. I go to escape for a few hours and laugh. I for one love comedies, good horrors and Disney animation and will take any of them any day over a drama or preachy movie.

 

[mickeyfan2]

Either you people are REALLY dense or your all messing with me. I just can't believe people are this dumb.

Well all my education and testing said I am in the top 1% intellectually, but I am another who does not understand your ramblings. So your rambling must be making me REALLY DENSE.