Crash beats Brokeback!!! Yay!

Um, Spoon full, were those rhetorical questions? Because if you want answers to all of that, I need to know if my paper should be double- or single-spaced and should it contain page numbers? Holy moly!

Just a spoon full of sugar helps the condemnation go down in the most delightful way.
 
You all were able to get past the first two lines??!??!! Wow. :rotfl:
 
Miss Jasmine said:
You all were able to get past the first two lines??!??!! Wow. :rotfl:
just a bunch of babble, you didn't miss much. :confused3
 
Actually, spoonful of Sugar, from your sig (since you listed no birthdate in your profile), if your first trip with your DS was in 2001, I doubt you were around in the 1950s. And most likely weren't born until the very late 60s to mid 70s. All you really know from the 1950s is what you see on Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best.

I suspect if you had any true knowledge of that era you may not be so quick to defend it.
 

pearlieq said:
What I did get, though, is that we have a National Man Boy Love Association. Good to know... :rolleyes2
You did not know about NAMBLA? South Park did a great episode on this years ago!!!!!
 
Yes bad things did happen in the 50's. Yes there were people who were unfairly and unneccesarely discriminated against,detained, and even lobotomized ( the sainted Kennedy's did this to their own daughter/sister, it was a short lived experiment that was tragically flawed) BUT at least my son could go across the street to the park and play without fear.

Well, I was able to get this out of it, spoon full- honestly, did you mean to say what this sounds like- bad things happened, but not to your family so it was ok?

We have progressed as a society. We need to progress more.

Hah, funny how this thread turned. Movies are movies. It's entertainment.
 
JennyMominRI said:
Did that post make sense to anyone? I tried,I really tried


:confused3 and I'll add a :rolleyes: for the parts I was able to figure out.
 
let me get this straight...being judgmental is a moral value? I think that it is hatred toward minorities that rips a the moral fabric of society. Acceptance seems like a better moral value. Whatever happened to Love thy neighbor!
 
buddy&wooz said:
Well, I was able to get this out of it, spoon full- honestly, did you mean to say what this sounds like- bad things happened, but not to your family so it was ok?

We have progressed as a society. We need to progress more.

Hah, funny how this thread turned. Movies are movies. It's entertainment.
I wonder what the African Americans ,Jews and other minorities on this forum, would think about turning back the clock to the 50's
 
Sorry, didn't mean to strain any of you. Nobody addressed my question, how can you condone the pimp culture brutalizing women? Please answer just this one little ? if it's not to taxing for you. :)
 
hubby_of_newtodisney said:
I'm glad that Brokeback Mtn didn't win Best Picture! It's basically a picture about cheating and living a lie.

I must respectfully disagree.

Movies such as Breakfast at Tiffany, American Beauty, Bridges of Madison County, Wuthering Heights, Excalibur, Casablanca, etc. came to my mind when you mentioned cheating and living a lie. :goodvibes
 
JennyMominRI said:
I wonder what the African Americans ,Jews and other minorities on this forum, would think about turning back the clock to the 50's

And women! Don't forget women. Many of us would not be thrilled with turning the clock back to the 50's.
 
spoon full of sugar said:
Sorry, didn't mean to strain any of you. Nobody addressed my question, how can you condone the pimp culture brutalizing women? . :)
Because it's hard out here for a pimp?
 
JennyMominRI said:
I wonder what the African Americans ,Jews and other minorities on this forum, would think about turning back the clock to the 50's

Well, I can only speak for myself. But, I was just thinking how much more...um, exciting my upcoming trip to Florida with my white husband and biracial kids would have been in the 1950s. :scared1:
 
Yeah! I have a brand new "scarriest post I ever read on the DIS" to show DH when he comes home. It's been weeks since I had anything truly horrifying to show him. Thanks, "spoon full of sugar" (my nomination for most ironic DIS name of the centruy) for providing tonight's after dinner entertainment.

:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2
 
I was shocked that Crash won--and was surprised when it was even nominated.

While I loved the film when I first saw it, I saw it as way too obvious to have serious artistic merit, and it's unabashedly didactic (teaching/ preaching) in a simplistic sort of way. So much so, that I showed it to my college students last semester during a unit on the myths of diversity. Ironically, I'm showing it again this semester and had to buy the dang thing because it was all checked out at the video stores after its big win

I think it's an enjoyable film to watch because it uses a lot of over the top techniques to pull at audiences hearts and tear ducts, and it's useful for simplifying racial issues because it spells them out, but from an artistic or literary standpoint, I just can't buy the brillance in having characters routinely say such bigoted remarks to other characters as if it's commonplace--it's so artificial--even a cliche of artificial. Does anyone NOT remember they are watching a movie when Sandra Bullock yells about homies in front of the locksmith she is complaining about--does anyone do this?? Movies don't have to be realistic to be good--there is plenty of evidence for this--but when the movie pretends to be real on the obvious use of smoke and mirrors--that's when you question it's integrity. And yes, I'm from LA and even work sometimes in the movie business doing short-term freelance stuff (like the kind of people who were supposed to be swayed by the fact that Crash was about LA themes)--and while I liked the film, the best picture nod made me question the integrity of the outcome.

Brokeback was slower and made me a bit uncomfortable (and I'm fully supportive of gays) just because the sex parts was still a little...yuck. But gosh, it was a gorgeous film with incredible acting and great scene after scene. It was so much more deserving, the results almost seem criminal. Recount, anyone?
 
In my original post I said that there were major problems in the fifties, but, people weren't afraid to go outside at night. I would like to bring THAT part back, duh. Stop trying to twist my words. By the way, I'm part Jewish and part Native American, so my ancestors had to put up with things you wouldn't believe. My great grandmother was raised on a reservation, that wasn't lovely. My great grandfather was a jew in the backwoods of West Virginia, what fun. Today I have alot more harrasment issues with being female than being jewish or indian. And I think it's a real joke that YOU middle class white people are telling me about discrimination :lmao: . :rolleyes:
 
spoon full of sugar said:
Sorry, didn't mean to strain any of you. Nobody addressed my question, how can you condone the pimp culture brutalizing women? Please answer just this one little ? if it's not to taxing for you. :)

Not taxing, just pointless. How are we condoning the pimp culture? Because we're not all up in arms that a song from a MOVIE about pimps won an award? :confused3

I'd love to expand on this, but I'm late for an afternoon of trick-turning. Can't disappoint my pimp. It's hard enough out here for him as it is.
 
spoon full of sugar said:
And I think it's a real joke that YOU middle class white people are telling me about discrimination :lmao: . :rolleyes:

Ahem... :wave2:
 












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