COSTUMES NO MORE FOR ADULTS!

[Odelay]

Dressing up for the parks is considered a costume? Matching t-shirts must be a costume then. can I even wear an unbuttoned flanel shirt or is that a cape? Disney sells dresses that look like costumes in a couple epcot stores, is that ok since they sell it? Hey look, that man looks like he's from 2014, I thought no costumes were allowed? Excuse me security, that lady is wearing a goofy hat, I thought no costumes were allowed..

Disney just lost their mind..

This picture from september means so much more to me now....

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You consider matching t-shirts to be a costume? You must be a real blast at Halloween parties.

 

[kittyab]

I don't believe that is the same. Young families need to bring in diapers, wipes, change of clothes, sun lotion, baby food, etc. Some families with special needs have to bring an assortment of special items. All guests are toting ponchos and other things.

Water is water, and honestly I think we are all in more danger from a chemical being released in the parks than most anything else especially since it would be the easiest to get in the park. Water is provided free to guests from Disney, so there is no issue with banning water and/or other liquids from being brought in.

That's the thing, you can not bring liquids or gels on a plane, they could say the same at the WDW gate. You can buy sun screen, supplies in the parks. They can ban anything they want in the name of security.

 

[kittyab]

I'm 100% fine with this change.

They're doing the extra enforcement and higher level detection because they need to step up security for obvious domestic and international risk reasons. It has probably everything to do with preventing a serious problem.

Metal detectors should have been put in place years ago. I've never understood why they've taken this long.

Costumes are easy to conceal identity and I believe (reasonable hearsay) that Disneyuses face recognition and biometrics similar to casinos and government enforcement (airports, etc). Costumes mess that up.

It's a different ballgame these days and I'm glad Disney is stepping up security measures.

So I guess they should ban face painting for adults? No more wearing hats or sunglasses too. Sorry if it is chilly you cannot wear a jacket or hoodie. Too bad if it is raining you can wear a rain poncho. Where does it end?

All this does is feed the fear.

I posted this on the other thread:

What I do know what Disney uses.... there are tracking devices in those magic bands. When my DH & DD rode the Dwarf train, there was a video of them on that ride and they did not scan their bands after the ride. Disney does not need facial recognition software, they know where you are all the time in the parks.

 

[Planogirl]

I just returned from a week at WDW yesterday and saw lots of adults and older teens in costumes (especially Star Wars), so I an now sure how much it was enforced. I never understood adults wanting to wear costumes anyway, so it is no big deal to me. I also only saw one set of metal detectors (at Epcot) the whole week and never was asked to go through them. Maybe this was just for those not staying on property.

I just returned today and from my understanding they just started enforcing this. And offsite visitors will be treated the same as onsite visitors.

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

I honestly don't get all the judgment on this thread for what others like to do.

What does it matter if someone wants to attend three parties? Haven't you ever had someone ask you why you continue to visit Disney over and over? To each his own.

I don't care that she goes to three parties, but I don't understand her "why don't you pay whatever amount it is" for the three parties?" She asked me to pay for them lol. Why would I pay for them? She is more than welcome to go to three parties, have at it. I don't get why people are getting so defensive of people having differing opinions.

I've never really had anyone ask me why I continue to go to Disney. But I'm sure one day I will, and that question won't offend me or upset me.

 

[wilkeliza]

So I guess they should ban face painting for adults? No more wearing hats or sunglasses too. Sorry if it is chilly you cannot wear a jacket or hoodie. Too bad if it is raining you can wear a rain poncho. Where does it end?

All this does is feed the fear.

I posted this on the other thread:

What I do know what Disney uses.... there are tracking devices in those magic bands. When my DH & DD rode the Dwarf train, there was a video of them on that ride and they did not scan their bands after the ride. Disney does not need facial recognition software, they know where you are all the time in the parks.

There are long range RFID readers at the picture taker of Seven Dwarfs. Disney just knows your band passed through the reader and loads the photo and video closest to it onto the account linked to those bands.

Disney can not track people as closesly as say GPS tagging can. Your smartphone actually tracks you more closely than any company would care to admit. Google being the worst offender of this.

At the end of they day we decided how comfortable we are with all the tracking and if someone doesn't like it they can use an old style phone and a plastic card instead of Mb.

All that aside any information put on a a magic band could be completely false so they are not accurate for locating someone who may have committed a crime.

 

[wilkeliza]

As someone who has some really intricate costumes, this just isn't going to happen. Anna isn't going to be out walking around trying to sneak backstage in fantasyland without a handler, and neither is Cinderella or anyone else. Red flags all around, and huge princess dresses aren't exactly hard to spot. No matter how accurate your costume is, you aren't getting in anywhere because of it. I have found CMs love the guests with super all out costumes and offer lots of compliments, but they know it's a costume, and a guest.

As someone who has worked in the parks I can tell you I didn't bat an eye if someone was in a well made costume akin to CM costumes. The last party I went to I saw several people dressed exactly like they worked at the haunted mansion. Had they gone down to the utilidors not a single person would have stopped them. Also having worked at Epcot I can tell you for a fact that characters do walk to the back with out their handler. If I saw Marry Poppins walk into the International Gateway backstage area I would have assumed her handler was near or had followed ahead. Same for Alice and that area. Often times Alice would come play at our carts with out her handler. If someone was dressed exactly like the park Alice and in the right height range all of us would have assumed that she was in fact a character performer and not a guest.

I can't tell you how many times guest just wander backstage at Epcot and how hard it is to make the quick descision on if you ask for ID, call security, or just leave it alone. Having well done costumes on adults makes that decision 10 times harder.

 

[Robo]

All that aside any information put on a a magic band could be completely false so they are not accurate for locating someone who may have committed a crime.

Just to keep things as clear as possible, there is no information ever "put onto" a MagicBand.
Any info relating to a guest is put into that guest's MDE files.

That info is then accessed by the unique digital number that is permanently encoded
into a MagicBand.

 

[rajak73]

I don't care that she goes to three parties, but I don't understand her "why don't you pay whatever amount it is" for the three parties?" She asked me to pay for them lol. Why would I pay for them? She is more than welcome to go to three parties, have at it. I don't get why people are getting so defensive of people having differing opinions.

I've never really had anyone ask me why I continue to go to Disney. But I'm sure one day I will, and that question won't offend me or upset me.

Because it's 2015 and a differing opinion is WRONG! I will add with security measures, not at Disney but when we go to our University Basketball games we now have to unzip our coats. If I was that offended by that, I'd stay home.

 

[rajak73]

[QUOTE="kittyab, post: 54878268, member: 490277"

What I do know what Disney uses.... there are tracking devices in those magic bands. When my DH & DD rode the Dwarf train, there was a video of them on that ride and they did not scan their bands after the ride. Disney does not need facial recognition software, they know where you are all the time in the parks.[/QUOTE]

 

[wilkeliza]

Just to keep things as clear as possible, there is no information ever "put onto" a MagicBand.
Any info relating to a guest is put into that guest's MDE files.

That info is then accessed by the unique digital number that is permanently encoded
into a MagicBand.

True anything put on your MDE account could be fake.

 

[disneyseniors]

As someone who has worked in the parks I can tell you I didn't bat an eye if someone was in a well made costume akin to CM costumes. The last party I went to I saw several people dressed exactly like they worked at the haunted mansion. Had they gone down to the utilidors not a single person would have stopped them. Also having worked at Epcot I can tell you for a fact that characters do walk to the back with out their handler. If I saw Marry Poppins walk into the International Gateway backstage area I would have assumed her handler was near or had followed ahead. Same for Alice and that area. Often times Alice would come play at our carts with out her handler. If someone was dressed exactly like the park Alice and in the right height range all of us would have assumed that she was in fact a character performer and not a guest.

I can't tell you how many times guest just wander backstage at Epcot and how hard it is to make the quick descision on if you ask for ID, call security, or just leave it alone. Having well done costumes on adults makes that decision 10 times harder.

Yes, THANK YOU!, common sense from someone who has actually worked at Disney and who has experiences related to this whole costume thing!
I never understood grown ups dressing up, but that's just me. It should be a non-issue as far as security is concerned (my opinion only, no flames please, remember it's Christmas time My 2 cents, I think Disney and universal and sea world were notified by homeland security about pending threats to these parks around Christmastime. Why would they set this up so fast otherwise and "alarm" the guests?

 

[wilkeliza]

Yes, THANK YOU!, common sense from someone who has actually worked at Disney and who has experiences related to this whole costume thing!
I never understood grown ups dressing up, but that's just me. It should be a non-issue as far as security is concerned (my opinion only, no flames please, remember it's Christmas time My 2 cents, I think Disney and universal and sea world were notified by homeland security about pending threats to these parks around Christmastime. Why would they set this up so fast otherwise and "alarm" the guests?

I do want to clarify that during parties they are usually on their toes but this was the first year I had seen recreations of actual CM costumes and not just Disney characters. I saw a group as the Dapper Dans, some Haunted Mansion peeps, and even a group of friends dressed as one person from each land. I think a big issue has become that people didn't respect the line in the sand of what was an okay costume. Dressing as Cinderella at a party, sure go right ahead. Dressing as the New Fantasyland attractions CMs, nope not okay and never was.

 

[kittyab]

True anything put on your MDE account could be fake.

All I know they had a video of my dh and dd on the train ride on our MM. It was not a fastpass, they never scanned their magic bands for that ride. So how did Disney knew 1. they were on that ride, 2. they had a MM account?

 

[wilkeliza]

All I know they had a video of my dh and dd on the train ride on our MM. It was not a fastpass, they never scanned their magic bands for that ride. So how did Disney knew 1. they were on that ride, 2. they had a MM account?

They don't care if you have a MM account or not. It gets loaded onto every magicband. There is a long distance reader on the ride right after your photo and video are taken. As the ride vehicle passes through that reader every magicband that passes through it has the photo and video added. They are timed pretty specifically to know who is in what car. They would just know that you had been on Seven Dwarfs that exact moment because of the photo and MB. If you didn't have a MB but instead had one of the RFID enabled cards it would not have been able to do it. If there wasn't a reader/transmitter built into the ride it wouldn't have been able to do it. They don't have readers every where in the park so they can only tell when your unique Disney ID number was last passed through a reader.

 

[kittyab]

They don't care if you have a MM account or not. It gets loaded onto every magicband. There is a long distance reader on the ride right after your photo and video are taken. As the ride vehicle passes through that reader every magicband that passes through it has the photo and video added. They are timed pretty specifically to know who is in what car. They would just know that you had been on Seven Dwarfs that exact moment because of the photo and MB. If you didn't have a MB but instead had one of the RFID enabled cards it would not have been able to do it. If there wasn't a reader/transmitter built into the ride it wouldn't have been able to do it. They don't have readers every where in the park so they can only tell when your unique Disney ID number was last passed through a reader.

You are missing my point, he never scanned his magic band. They are tracking our every movements in the parks.

 

[wilkeliza]

You are missing my point, he never scanned his magic band. They are tracking our every movements in the parks.

You are clearly missing mine. Yes he never scanned it but by ridding the ride it went through a long range reader. They can't track every step like GPS since that isn't how RFID works. They can only track when you go through a reader. You may not even realize you are going through one but unlike GPS (which your phone tracks with out you knowing unless you opt out and block it from doing so) they can't know exactly where you are at any given time. They can only tell that your MB has crossed by a reader. That is why the person who posted about getting a text was asked if they were in line for Pirates when there was a substantial delay. All Disney knew was that their band had passed through the reader at the front of pirates. They had no clue if the person left when the wait got longer than posted or if they were one of the people it took 40 minutes instead of 15. All they knew was that the band was there at roughly the time it happened.

There are things RFID just won't even be able to do and specific to the step tracking is one of them.

 

[kittyab]

It is still creepy

 

[jsmla]

Got this email from Dapper Days:


NEW DISNEY PARK RULES

Many of you have inquired weather Disney's new park security measures and rules (specifically the prohibiting of wearing costumes by anyone over 14) will end or impact our DAPPER DAY Park outings.

No, they will not. Our events celebrate great style from yesterday and today and are not, and never were, intended as costume or cosplay gatherings. Disney-inspired ensembles are always fun at our park outings, but keep in mind Disney will likely ask you to change your attire if guests could confuse you for a Disney employee or park entertainer.

We're working closely with Disney to ensure our events happen smoothly as we continue expanding our happenings at the Disney Resorts and look forward to all sorts of new activities for our followers with the Disney Company.

 

[larryz]

Was a LONG time ago, and maybe there was only the Magic Kingdom and Epcot. I think later it was changed to allow snacks and has since become very lax.

I remember discussions here on the boards 'way back about whether or not food and drinks was permitted for carry-in...