COSTUMES NO MORE FOR ADULTS!

[larryz]

So I guess they should ban face painting for adults?

Imagine what this face paint would do to facial recognition software...

 

[MakiraMarlena]

this looks like it's getting far afield. They said no costumes. They didn't say no hoodies, no saris, no Goofy hats, no coats, no unbuttoned shirts, no face painting, no vintage clothing.

No, they are not tracking everybody's every single movement all over the parks.

 

[wilkeliza]

I remember discussions here on the boards 'way back about whether or not food and drinks was permitted for carry-in...

For the longest there was language online that picnic lunches were on the prohibited list. This was taken out but not sure when. I always wondered what constituted a picnic lunch. I remember the went over it during my training and it was basically if someone was eating their own food at a quick service location or had set out a blanket and were enjoying their lunches it wasn't allowed. If they were just sitting on a park bench it was okay. I see now they have axed that.

 

[asc]

wow. you are now an adult at 14 at disney. who knew. do you get to order alcohol too?

 

[wilkeliza]

wow. you are now an adult at 14 at disney. who knew. do you get to order alcohol too?

Well seeing as 18 year olds are adults in the regular sense and don't get to order alcohol for 3 years that is a big jump to make.

 

[kittyab]

My issue with the ate is a child over 9 is suppose to eat off of the adult menu but is still child enough for BBB, etc. Who picks these ages?

 

[asc]

Well seeing as 18 year olds are adults in the regular sense and don't get to order alcohol for 3 years that is a big jump to make.

sorry, not where i am from.....

 

[larryz]

wow. you are now an adult at 14 at disney. who knew. do you get to order alcohol too?

You pay "adult" prices to get in when you're 10...

 

[asc]

You pay "adult" prices to get in when you're 10...

another stupid disneyism....oh well.

 

[wilkeliza]

sorry, not where i am from.....

Well Disney World and Disneyland are in the US so they have to follow US law for drinking.

The ages are set for different reasons. 10 years for entry and food is mostly because a lot of 10 year old do eat as much as adults now and 10 year olds usually can ride every ride.

14 for watching younger children, as well as entering and exiting is due to maturity rules. It can be reasonable expected that a 14 year old can care for themselves and in the event of an emergency a young sibling. I imagine 14 was chosen for costumes simply because most teenagers are out of the dressing up phase and some 14 year olds can look as old as young adults now.

 

[siskaren]

another stupid disneyism....oh well.

That seems like a pretty standard adult age for theme/amusement parks (not to mention movies), so I don't see how this is a "Disneyism".

 

[kittyab]

They could allow costumes that do not obscure the face for Party nights. There are ways to make everyone happy.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

They don't want adults in costumes at all now. Whether they obscure the face or not. When you read the post from the CM or former CM regarding persons getting into backstage areas, it makes sense why it doesn't matter whether they obscure the face or not.

 

[Dismama2boys]

Since none of us here know the specific nature of the threat(s), and yes, again, I am positive it was something specific and serious, it is ridiculous to speculate about what security measures will be useful vs. "security theater". (Anyone else sick to death of that phrase yet????) Disney is not in the habit of throwing away money, so I am of the opinion that multiple security EXPERTS believe for reasons not known to us that it is beneficial. That's enough for me, especially regarding something so trivial (IMO) as costumes.

 

[HopperFan]

You are missing my point, he never scanned his magic band. They are tracking our every movements in the parks.

You are clearly missing mine. Yes he never scanned it but by ridding the ride it went through a long range reader. They can't track every step like GPS since that isn't how RFID works. They can only track when you go through a reader. You may not even realize you are going through one but unlike GPS (which your phone tracks with out you knowing unless you opt out and block it from doing so) they can't know exactly where you are at any given time. They can only tell that your MB has crossed by a reader. That is why the person who posted about getting a text was asked if they were in line for Pirates when there was a substantial delay. All Disney knew was that their band had passed through the reader at the front of pirates. They had no clue if the person left when the wait got longer than posted or if they were one of the people it took 40 minutes instead of 15. All they knew was that the band was there at roughly the time it happened.

There are things RFID just won't even be able to do and specific to the step tracking is one of them.

Agree with wilkeliza, you are not hearing what several of us are telling you. We all know he didn't scan his band, we all know that Disney can see the bands. This is old news. This has been since day one and no surprise at all.

If you wear a MagicBand then you don't need to scan at ride photo booths. The RFID in your MB can capture the photo. It is supposed to work this way. They use your MagicBand to find out exactly where you are sitting at BOG to bring you food. They are not tracking your every movement, yet, but they can eventually. It's up to Disney if they will put readers all over. Do they want to track you as a "person"? No. Do they want to track you as a spending guest? Absolutely. Readers can be a real boost to their business in many ways, and offer guest perks. I have zero issue with them but if you do, they are optional and I would request a hard card to utilize so you don't have to be creeped out.

PS You do realize that department stores and many other private businesses are watching your every move on cameras (way creepier than RFID). You are even being taped outside of buildings and on public streets. Google is watching every single place you go on the internet. Your wireless carrier knows exactly where you are and what you do on your phone. Every insurance company knows exactly what you went to the doctor for. We live in the world of Big Brother and Disney is the least of my worries.

Here is what I posted to another thread where you were discussing your MagicBands, to explain exactly how they work vs the hard card ...

MagicBands have two versions of RFID in them. Passive and Active. The passive is the chip that needs almost direct touching to scanners for tickets, FP+, charging, dining plan, room key, gate operation. The active is the chip that needs to be in close proximity so that is where the ride photos come into play. This chip is only in MB because it needs a battery. This is the chip Disney will use more in the future for interactive experiences, knowing approximately where you are for working crowd flows etc. Complicated usage but will pay off in long run. Predict in future guests wearing these will receive more spontaneous offers of FP+, discounts at restaurants needing to be filled etc. Offering bonuses to those who wear may increase the usage of the MB by offsite guests.

Hard Tickets have only the Passive RFID chip in them. So they can not pick up where you are, so you can't get ride photos unless you tap. These will not help Disney in the "tracking" process. This will not help the guest in receiving any special offers

 

[Accident]

You consider matching t-shirts to be a costume?

No, but the dictionary says it is. My point is your at the whims of the staff and anything could be called a costume, especially if your a group in matching attire.

 

[Magpie]

No, but the dictionary says it is. My point is your at the whimsy of the staff and anything could be called a costume, especially if your a group in matching attire.

Autocorrect? I'm assuming you meant the "whims" of the staff.

And if you're going to use "costume" as a synonym of "outfit" or "garment", then whatever you happen to be wearing at the moment - even the most ordinary jeans and tees - is a costume. Clearly Disney isn't going to ban park wear and insist we all go "sky clad". (Though that would definitely ensure no one tries to smuggle in any contraband!)

Fortunately, you're never completely at the mercy of any individual Disney staff member. If by some unlikely chance a rogue cast member tries to stop you and your family at the entrance of Magic Kingdom for wearing matching tees, you have only to call over the nearest supervisor and you'll almost certainly be compensated for any distress you endured by having your clothing choices questioned.

There's nothing new going on here. This "Tinkerbell" was asked to change her outfit, way back in 2012: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tinker-bell-girl-disney-park-banned-334306

The rules relaxed for a bit, and now they're being enforced again (or so they say), broadened (possibly) to include runs and parties, and applied to more than just adults dressing specifically as Disney characters.

 

[mom2rtk]

Autocorrect? I'm assuming you meant the "whims" of the staff.

And if you're going to use "costume" as a synonym of "outfit" or "garment", then whatever you happen to be wearing at the moment - even the most ordinary jeans and tees - is a costume. Clearly Disney isn't going to ban park wear and insist we all go "sky clad". (Though that would definitely ensure no one tries to smuggle in any contraband!)

Fortunately, you're never completely at the mercy of any individual Disney staff member. If by some unlikely chance a rogue cast member tries to stop you and your family at the entrance of Magic Kingdom for wearing matching tees, you have only to call over the nearest supervisor and you'll almost certainly be compensated for any distress you endured by having your clothing choice questioned.

There's nothing new going on here. This "Tinkerbell" was asked to change her outfit, way back in 2012: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tinker-bell-girl-disney-park-banned-334306

Sure there's something new going on. That was during a regular park day. What we're talking about here is policy during the Halloween party.

 

[Accident]

Autocorrect? I'm assuming you meant the "whims" of the staff.

Yes, thanks for pointing out it did that.

And if you're going to use "costume" as a synonym of "outfit" or "garment", then whatever you happen to be wearing at the moment - even the most ordinary jeans and tees - is a costume. Clearly Disney isn't going to ban park wear and insist we all go "sky clad". (Though that would definitely ensure no one tries to smuggle in any contraband!)

My only point is I would like it better defined.. I'm not against the rule and not trying to make an argument to not have it. I just want it defined well so we know exactly what they are trying to accomplish. I personally like seeing everyone living it up and dressed for the day however they see fit (but agree with not getting confused with staff)

 

[Magpie]

Yes, thanks for pointing out it did that.



My only point is I would like it better defined.. I'm not against the rule and not trying to make an argument to not have it. I just want it defined well so we know exactly what they are trying to accomplish. I personally like seeing everyone living it up and dressed for the day however they see fit (but agree with not getting confused with staff)

I would love to see it better defined, too! However, I can also see a counter argument for leaving it vague, as that gives Disney more flexibility and means they can be more accommodating of people whose outfits are "close to the line", but who clearly aren't going to be confused with the real thing.