Tink & Goofy
Some days there isn't enough pixie dust.
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2008
- Messages
- 3,510
Conservative Thread: We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once
- Thread starter #1hockeymom
- Start date
- Status
Eschool? They have that now? Wish they'd had that when I was in hs.
I do too! There's a brick and mortar building but there's the option of doing work on the computer if the child is on vacation or is home sick.
Mahnahmahnah
<font color=purple>Pug Luvah<br><font color=magent
- Joined
- May 31, 2008
- Messages
- 1,584
Tink & Goofy
Some days there isn't enough pixie dust.
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2008
- Messages
- 3,510
Humphrey Bear
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2001
- Messages
- 1,088
If a broken nose is not bad enough, the poor kid gets a head cold too!
Hope she is better soon!
News for today:
The Government is looking at taxing cow flatulence!
EPA's Air Pollution Target: Flatulent Cows
Agency May Tax Livestock Farms For Greenhouse Gas Emissions; Farmers Furious
MONTGOMERY, Ala, Dec. 5, 2008
For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if the federal government decides to charge fees for air-polluting animals.
Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which they contend is a possible consequence of an Environmental Protection Agency report after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases emitted by belching and flatulence amounts to air pollution.
"This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the fees.
EPA officials insisted Friday that the lengthy, highly technical report, which mostly focuses on other sources of air pollution, does not include a proposal to tax livestock.
But the American Farm Bureau Federation said, based on federal agriculture department figures, it would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog.
The executive vice president of the Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation, Ken Hamilton, estimated the fee would cost owners of a modest-sized cattle ranch $30,000 to $40,000 a year. He said he has talked to a number of livestock owners about the proposals, and "all have said if the fees were carried out, it would bankrupt them."
Sparks said Wednesday he's worried the fee could be extended to chickens and other farm animals and cause more meat to be imported.
"We'll let other countries put food on our tables like they are putting gas in our cars. Other countries don't have the health standards we have," Sparks said.
The farm groups say the fee would apply to farms with livestock operations that emit more than 100 tons of carbon emissions in a year and fall under federal Clean Air Act provisions.
EPA officials said the agency has not taken a position on any of the matters discussed in its response to the Supreme Court ruling. And John Millett, a spokesman for EPA's air and radiation division, said there has been an oversimplification of the EPA's document "to the point of distortion."
"EPA is not proposing any type of tax on livestock," he said.
The EPA briefly mentions "raising livestock" in its report on ways to regulate greehnouse gases under the provisions of the Clean Air Act. Paul Schlegel, director of public policy for the American Farm Bureau Federation, said it determined the possible fees that could be imposed by using Agriculture Department statistics on the amount of greenhouse gases that come from livestock and applied it to the EPA's permitting rules.
It seems there is an ulterior motive, to destroy livestock farms.Perry Mobley, Alabama Farmers FederationFarmers from across the country have expressed outrage over the EPA report, both on Internet sites and in opinions sent to EPA during a public comment period that ended last week. Many call it a "cow tax" and say the EPA proposed it.
"It's something that really has a very big potential adverse impact for the livestock industry," said Rick Krause, the senior director of congressional relations for the American Farm Bureau Federation.
The fee would cover the cost of a permit for the livestock operations. While farmers say it would drive them out of business, an organization supporting the proposal hopes it forces the farms and ranches to switch to healthier crops. "It makes perfect sense if you are looking for ways to cut down on meat consumption and recoup environmental losses," said Bruce Friedrich, a spokesman in Washington for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
"We certainly support making factory farms pay their fair share," he said.
U.S. Rep. Robert Aderholt, a Republican from Haleyville in northwest Alabama, said he has spoken with EPA officials and doesn't believe the cow tax is a serious proposal that will ever be adopted by the agency.
"Who comes up with this kind of stuff?" said Perry Mobley, director of the Alabama Farmers Federation's beef division. "It seems there is an ulterior motive, to destroy livestock farms. This would certainly put them out of business."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/tech/main4651448.shtml
Mikelly1221
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- May 11, 2000
- Messages
- 1,496
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW! Eeew eeew eeew eeww. Nasty, blucky, icky, blarf. Yucka. Eww eww eww.
Okay, I feel better now.
So, exactly, how do you feel about eggnog? Go ahead, you can tell us, don't hold back!
Great news about the competition, but I'm sorry about her nose. That has got to hurt, esp. with a cold! Poor baby!
If a broken nose is not bad enough, the poor kid gets a head cold too!
Hope she is better soon!
News for today:
The Government is looking at taxing cow flatulence!
EPA's Air Pollution Target: Flatulent Cows
Agency May Tax Livestock Farms For Greenhouse Gas Emissions; Farmers Furious
MONTGOMERY, Ala, Dec. 5, 2008
For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if the federal government decides to charge fees for air-polluting animals.
Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which they contend is a possible consequence of an Environmental Protection Agency report after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases emitted by belching and flatulence amounts to air pollution.
"This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the fees.
EPA officials insisted Friday that the lengthy, highly technical report, which mostly focuses on other sources of air pollution, does not include a proposal to tax livestock.
But the American Farm Bureau Federation said, based on federal agriculture department figures, it would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog.
The executive vice president of the Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation, Ken Hamilton, estimated the fee would cost owners of a modest-sized cattle ranch $30,000 to $40,000 a year. He said he has talked to a number of livestock owners about the proposals, and "all have said if the fees were carried out, it would bankrupt them."
Sparks said Wednesday he's worried the fee could be extended to chickens and other farm animals and cause more meat to be imported.
"We'll let other countries put food on our tables like they are putting gas in our cars. Other countries don't have the health standards we have," Sparks said.
The farm groups say the fee would apply to farms with livestock operations that emit more than 100 tons of carbon emissions in a year and fall under federal Clean Air Act provisions.
EPA officials said the agency has not taken a position on any of the matters discussed in its response to the Supreme Court ruling. And John Millett, a spokesman for EPA's air and radiation division, said there has been an oversimplification of the EPA's document "to the point of distortion."
"EPA is not proposing any type of tax on livestock," he said.
The EPA briefly mentions "raising livestock" in its report on ways to regulate greehnouse gases under the provisions of the Clean Air Act. Paul Schlegel, director of public policy for the American Farm Bureau Federation, said it determined the possible fees that could be imposed by using Agriculture Department statistics on the amount of greenhouse gases that come from livestock and applied it to the EPA's permitting rules.
It seems there is an ulterior motive, to destroy livestock farms.Perry Mobley, Alabama Farmers FederationFarmers from across the country have expressed outrage over the EPA report, both on Internet sites and in opinions sent to EPA during a public comment period that ended last week. Many call it a "cow tax" and say the EPA proposed it.
"It's something that really has a very big potential adverse impact for the livestock industry," said Rick Krause, the senior director of congressional relations for the American Farm Bureau Federation.
The fee would cover the cost of a permit for the livestock operations. While farmers say it would drive them out of business, an organization supporting the proposal hopes it forces the farms and ranches to switch to healthier crops. "It makes perfect sense if you are looking for ways to cut down on meat consumption and recoup environmental losses," said Bruce Friedrich, a spokesman in Washington for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
"We certainly support making factory farms pay their fair share," he said.
U.S. Rep. Robert Aderholt, a Republican from Haleyville in northwest Alabama, said he has spoken with EPA officials and doesn't believe the cow tax is a serious proposal that will ever be adopted by the agency.
"Who comes up with this kind of stuff?" said Perry Mobley, director of the Alabama Farmers Federation's beef division. "It seems there is an ulterior motive, to destroy livestock farms. This would certainly put them out of business."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/tech/main4651448.shtml
(HEAVY SIGH) These people have waaaay too much time on their hands...
/
Hey guys, Illinois Gov. Blagojevich a democrat was arrested by the feds this morning at his home on corruption charges. He's part of the Tony Rezko scandal that many of you will recall incuded allegations of corruption by Barack Obama. Apparently the feds moved in because there were some shenanigans going on in his selecting the replacement in the Senate of Obama Blagojevich tried to "sell" the seat to the highest bidder, apparently. This is the political environment our new president comes from. Buckle up. It's gonna be a bumpy ride!
Tink & Goofy
Some days there isn't enough pixie dust.
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2008
- Messages
- 3,510
News for today:
The Government is looking at taxing cow flatulence!
EPA's Air Pollution Target: Flatulent Cows
Agency May Tax Livestock Farms For Greenhouse Gas Emissions; Farmers Furious
MONTGOMERY, Ala, Dec. 5, 2008
For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if the federal government decides to charge fees for air-polluting animals.
Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which they contend is a possible consequence of an Environmental Protection Agency report after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases emitted by belching and flatulence amounts to air pollution.
"This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the fees.
EPA officials insisted Friday that the lengthy, highly technical report, which mostly focuses on other sources of air pollution, does not include a proposal to tax livestock.
But the American Farm Bureau Federation said, based on federal agriculture department figures, it would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog.
The executive vice president of the Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation, Ken Hamilton, estimated the fee would cost owners of a modest-sized cattle ranch $30,000 to $40,000 a year. He said he has talked to a number of livestock owners about the proposals, and "all have said if the fees were carried out, it would bankrupt them."
Sparks said Wednesday he's worried the fee could be extended to chickens and other farm animals and cause more meat to be imported.
"We'll let other countries put food on our tables like they are putting gas in our cars. Other countries don't have the health standards we have," Sparks said.
The farm groups say the fee would apply to farms with livestock operations that emit more than 100 tons of carbon emissions in a year and fall under federal Clean Air Act provisions.
EPA officials said the agency has not taken a position on any of the matters discussed in its response to the Supreme Court ruling. And John Millett, a spokesman for EPA's air and radiation division, said there has been an oversimplification of the EPA's document "to the point of distortion."
"EPA is not proposing any type of tax on livestock," he said.
The EPA briefly mentions "raising livestock" in its report on ways to regulate greehnouse gases under the provisions of the Clean Air Act. Paul Schlegel, director of public policy for the American Farm Bureau Federation, said it determined the possible fees that could be imposed by using Agriculture Department statistics on the amount of greenhouse gases that come from livestock and applied it to the EPA's permitting rules.
It seems there is an ulterior motive, to destroy livestock farms.Perry Mobley, Alabama Farmers FederationFarmers from across the country have expressed outrage over the EPA report, both on Internet sites and in opinions sent to EPA during a public comment period that ended last week. Many call it a "cow tax" and say the EPA proposed it.
"It's something that really has a very big potential adverse impact for the livestock industry," said Rick Krause, the senior director of congressional relations for the American Farm Bureau Federation.
The fee would cover the cost of a permit for the livestock operations. While farmers say it would drive them out of business, an organization supporting the proposal hopes it forces the farms and ranches to switch to healthier crops. "It makes perfect sense if you are looking for ways to cut down on meat consumption and recoup environmental losses," said Bruce Friedrich, a spokesman in Washington for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
"We certainly support making factory farms pay their fair share," he said.
U.S. Rep. Robert Aderholt, a Republican from Haleyville in northwest Alabama, said he has spoken with EPA officials and doesn't believe the cow tax is a serious proposal that will ever be adopted by the agency.
"Who comes up with this kind of stuff?" said Perry Mobley, director of the Alabama Farmers Federation's beef division. "It seems there is an ulterior motive, to destroy livestock farms. This would certainly put them out of business."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/05/tech/main4651448.shtml
That would destroy the farmers. Don't they care?! No, it's all about protecting the earth.
"Looking for ways to cut down on meat consumption?" Crap on that. If you want to be vegan that's fine. But you can't force me to not eat meat!
That would destroy the farmers. Don't they care?! No, it's all about protecting the earth.
"Looking for ways to cut down on meat consumption?" Crap on that. If you want to be vegan that's fine. But you can't force me to not eat meat!
I don't believe it has a thing to do with protecting the earth. I believe that all of the global warming hysteria is about an ideology that is anti-capitalist and anti-individual liberty. It is about creating a world government, and limiting the sovereignty of free and productive nations in particular the United States. Leftists have never been able to figure out how to get around the American Constitution, with all of its EXPLICIT liberties. Global warming, they believe, gives them what they need because limiting freedoms becomes about "saving the planet" and who could be opposed to that? Al Gore is not an American, he is a globalist (he just happens to believe, like all leftists, that HE will be put in charge of the globe and therefore will be immune from the draconian measures the globalists will enact to ensure our continued misery and servitude). Fortunately, I think the wheels are coming off the global warming train as more and more scientists are having the courage to step and say it's a bunch of hooey, it was always a bunch of hooey, and if we really care about humanity we'll ready ourselves to face the coming cool down, because that's going to kill a lot more people than the warm up ever did.
JB111107
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Nov 18, 2007
- Messages
- 1,169
That would destroy the farmers. Don't they care?! No, it's all about protecting the earth.
"Looking for ways to cut down on meat consumption?" Crap on that. If you want to be vegan that's fine. But you can't force me to not eat meat!
NO KIDDING...I love my steak, and no PETA people are gonna tell me I can't have it. I am all over that (@#*$&)$@# organization.
We have 2 dogs and they stay in the backyard...one of them will bark at pretty much anything that moves....like....leaves. Needless to say Nanook is not the quietest dog in the world, but there are lots of dogs in the neighborhood so it's no biggie. I came outside one day mid-afternoon and there were PETA pamphlets plastered on my front door, apparently because I'm being cruel to my dog by having her outside....on a perfectly sunny spring day in Texas. Anyway, There was a number for a PETA headquarters on the pamphlets so I called them and told them that if I caught them on my property again I would shoot first, ask questions later, as per the castle doctrine in Texas, I viewed them as an imminent threat to my home, property, and safety.
They haven't been back since.
On another note...have any of you guys seen these new commercials from a group of Al Gore fans claiming that there is no such thing as clean coal technology? Makes me want to puke....
They're about as bad as WWF, with their sad-eyed hollywood actors claiming that the polar bears need our help, so please send them money. We actually called their number and when they answered, we asked them if the money we were donating was specifically going to go to help polar bears, because we wouldn't want to help save any of the not-so-cute creatures that are ACTUALLY ENDANGERED, as opposed to the cute fuzzy polar bears who appear to be having more sex than ever before, as they've had a 400+% increase in their population over the last 2 decades....they hung up.Nothing like ruffling the feathers of a few misinformed idiots to start your day
Tink & Goofy
Some days there isn't enough pixie dust.
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2008
- Messages
- 3,510
I agree but apparently that makes me a 'flat-earther'.
I remember when I was a child they were talking about the next ice age. I am amongst the unbelievers that need to be punished.
As for their motivation, to me it feels like it's all about control. They have to, need to, want to control every little thing from where we live to what we eat to how many squares of recycled toilet paper we use.
I agree but apparently that makes me a 'flat-earther'.
I remember when I was a child they were talking about the next ice age. I am amongst the unbelievers that need to be punished.
As for their motivation, to me it feels like it's all about control. They have to, need to, want to control every little thing from where we live to what we eat to how many squares of recycled toilet paper we use.
Control. Exactly. Because they want power. And it's hard to have power over free people, so take away their liberties under the guise of "saving the planet" (and who wouldn't be in favor of that?!), and presto! You've got power. Global warming enthusiasts hate freedom, and they hate productivity that results in personal wealth. Free, wealthy people are so darn hard to control. They tend to drive away while you're flappin' your lips. In their big SUVs.
Tink & Goofy
Some days there isn't enough pixie dust.
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2008
- Messages
- 3,510
Or my big dually Chevy quadcab with a 454 engine.Control. Exactly. Because they want power. And it's hard to have power over free people, so take away their liberties under the guise of "saving the planet" (and who wouldn't be in favor of that?!), and presto! You've got power. Global warming enthusiasts hate freedom, and they hate productivity that results in personal wealth. Free, wealthy people are so darn hard to control. They tend to drive away while you're flappin' your lips. In their big SUVs.
It's bigger than an SUV. Don't drive it, though. Not because of pollution but because it sucks gas like barbra streisand drinks the blood of virgins.
Or my big dually Chevy quadcab with a 454 engine.
Don't drive it, though. Not because of pollution but because it sucks gas like barbra streisand drinks the blood of virgins.
Make that Conservative virgins!
JB111107
DIS Veteran
- Joined
- Nov 18, 2007
- Messages
- 1,169
Or my big dually Chevy quadcab with a 454 engine.
Don't drive it, though. Not because of pollution but because it sucks gas like barbra streisand drinks the blood of virgins.
I don't care who ya are, that there's funny.
Tink & Goofy
Some days there isn't enough pixie dust.
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2008
- Messages
- 3,510
Make that Conservative virgins!
breezy1077
<font color=green><marquee behavior=alternate>Eat
- Joined
- Mar 2, 2008
- Messages
- 7,609
Good news:
Bad news :
ITA - on both counts
Make that Conservative virgins!
breezy1077
<font color=green><marquee behavior=alternate>Eat
- Joined
- Mar 2, 2008
- Messages
- 7,609
Here's lunch everyone...
- Status
-
Here's Your FIRST LOOK Inside Bourbon Steak at the Walt Disney World Dolphin
-
Visiting Disney Cruise Line's Dedicated Terminal in Fort Lauderdale
-
Where Can You Celebrate Christmas All Year at Disney World?
-
Disneyland's MASSIVE 2025 Halloween Time Foodie Guide Is Here!
-
NEW Lagoon Show Coming to HHN: Haunt-O-Phonic
-
New Abominable Snowman Sipper Available at Disneyland Resort
-
Official 2025 Universal Studios Orlando HHN 34 Discussion Thread
Receive up to $1,000 in Onboard Credit and a Gift Basket!
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE
