*Confirmed* G+ Changes to Advanced Lightning Lane

[dancergirlsmom]

Is anyone else having problems seeing this information when using the links that people are putting on here? I end up at a page that just seems to be guest services. What am I doing wrong? I don't see anything like what is below.




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[PatricioATX]

What a great opportunity for Disney to increase value of DVC by something simple like allowing these “blue card” members to book two tier 1 rides. Wishful thinking I know.

One aspect of the new system I have not seen discussed much but I really like is how you can group your ride selections in a specific area/order so that you can make your way through the park and not go back and forth as much as we usually do with Genie +.

 

[dancergirlsmom]

Is anyone else having problems seeing this information when using the links that people are putting on here? I end up at a page that just seems to be guest services. What am I doing wrong? I don't see anything like what is below.

Welp just got it figured out. I saw in another thread about people that aren't in the US getting redirected to this. I checked and for some reason it was showing Canada instead of the US. Not sure how that happened. Changed to the location and boom link worked.

 

[starlite_]

It's working for me, I think it's change in the right direction.

I am happy for you. To me having capacity disappear before even getting to the parks is horrible. Good luck to all getting a LL for more that one tier 1 ride.

 

[JimmyBean42]

I am happy for you. To me having capacity disappear before even getting to the parks is horrible. Good luck to all getting a LL for more that one tier 1 ride.

So essentially it's the old FP+ system is what you are saying? Where most Tier 1's were gone by day of. Gotta think this would also limit same day LL purchases.

 

[Brocktoon]

While I'm neutral on this plan and can usually figure out how to make the best of whatever ... I can't see how this won't introduce all of the advanced capacity issues seen in the FP+ days. You're just swapping once set of issues for a different set of issues

 

[reddog21]

I can't see how this won't introduce all of the advanced capacity issues seen in the FP+ days

One would assume the original FP+ would have been used way more since it was free.

 

[cat4hurricane]

I kinda wish they had just sorta not done Genie+ and just went straight to FP+ Paid. I’ve finally gotten used to Genie+ and how it’s supposed to work, and now they switch us back to the old system. Otherwise, now that I’ve given it a day, assuming they can somehow mitigate some of the problems of the old FP+ system that are probably bound to show up, I’m actually kind of excited for it? This feels a lot more right to me than the Genie+ system, it feels like a much more natural progression.

 

[Brocktoon]

One would assume the original FP+ would have been used way more since it was free.

That's a good point ... I don't think we know pricing yet?

 

[TheUnderstudy]

Selfishly (and I'm rubbish at early takes which are anything else, so apologies), I really like that I wont have to get up for 7am every day of my holiday. Honestly, that is going to make every trip there for two weeks so much more enjoyable for me and my family overall (I might actually go more because I wont have to choose between a rest and the best break when booking a holiday). But I understand the points made on stacking.

This definitely feels to me like it will be more expensive given the multiple bookings (even if we know the tiers severely limit that). So I sense (and this will be a shock to all of you) we probably haven't heard the last of the complaints here.

 

[kmill99]

Anyone who thinks this new system is better cannot have known how to use the Genie+ to any near optimal level. Or they are morning phobic to a level they cannot see the trading away of the benefits of waking up for 5 or 10 minutes to maximize more tier 1 rides being easily possible, even on higher crowd level days. I mean, I am in no way a morning person. I LOVE sleeping in. ESPECIALLY on vacation. But the value returned for a brief bit of consciousness at 650am was easily worth it.

This is probably going to even out the availability for rides for people like I noticed multiple times last visit (early June) who were purchasing genie+ (sometimes midday at the parks) and had done zero research to how it worked, let alone how to optimize it.

What a disappointment to not be able to book at a second park until you've ridden the 1st ride.

How much less enjoyable and efficient to be prevented from stacking a lovely evening flow of desirable (tier 1) rides.

How I am reading the release info, it seems pretty clear Disney is doing a blatant expectation reset to achieve less rides (at the least less desirable rides) when purchasing and using this system.

• Once you’re in the park and you enjoy your first multi pass experience, you may be able to make an additional selection (subject to availability).

yippee. Lucky us.

At least when fast pass was around: (1) it was free; (2) the most top tier rides were available too (7 dwarves, FOP); (3) you could use fast pass multiple times for the same ride.

Has anyone actually looked at the tier 2 options...?? They are mostly shows and low wait rides you don't need genie+ for most times anyway.

It just seems a really poor and uneven trade for a few zzzs. Far more restrictive.

I am unbelievably thankful we took our big trip earlier this month, and brought my parents for their 1st visit in 25-30 years at that time. We rode every single top tier ride, skipped almost every line, and hardly ever back tracked. With a little MEP fishing we easily re-rode a number of rides as well on several days.

I guess I look forward to seeing how the crafty fence testers find new ways to manipulate the new system and hopefully get some decent value out of it.

 

[spewey]

Anyone who thinks this new system is better cannot have known how to use the Genie+ to any near optimal level. Or they are morning phobic to a level they cannot see the trading away of the benefits of waking up for 5 or 10 minutes to maximize more tier 1 rides being easily possible, even on higher crowd level days. I mean, I am in no way a morning person. I LOVE sleeping in. ESPECIALLY on vacation. But the value returned for a brief bit of consciousness at 650am was easily worth it.

This is probably going to even out the availability for rides for people like I noticed multiple times last visit (early June) who were purchasing genie+ (sometimes midday at the parks) and had done zero research to how it worked, let alone how to optimize it.

What a disappointment to not be able to book at a second park until you've ridden the 1st ride.

How much less enjoyable and efficient to be prevented from stacking a lovely evening flow of desirable (tier 1) rides.

How I am reading the release info, it seems pretty clear Disney is doing a blatant expectation reset to achieve less rides (at the least less desirable rides) when purchasing and using this system.

• Once you’re in the park and you enjoy your first multi pass experience, you may be able to make an additional selection (subject to availability).

yippee. Lucky us.

At least when fast pass was around: (1) it was free; (2) the most top tier rides were available too (7 dwarves, FOP); (3) you could use fast pass multiple times for the same ride.

Has anyone actually looked at the tier 2 options...?? They are mostly shows and low wait rides you don't need genie+ for most times anyway.

It just seems a really poor and uneven trade for a few zzzs. Far more restrictive.

I am unbelievably thankful we took our big trip earlier this month, and brought my parents for their 1st visit in 25-30 years at that time. We rode every single top tier ride, skipped almost every line, and hardly ever back tracked. With a little MEP fishing we easily re-rode a number of rides as well on several days.

I guess I look forward to seeing how the crafty fence testers find new ways to manipulate the new system and hopefully get some decent value out of it.

This! All of the above.

With the rumored changes, I was hoping for a modification of Genie+, perhaps allowing for length of stay purchase, with some advanced selections. Not eliminating it.

I certainly get many, many people hated Genie+. But then many hated Fastpass+, many hated the old paper system, and so on. When this was announced, last night I said to my wife "Alright! I get to learn from scratch a FOURTH different system in 10 years!".

And I'm sure I'll make it work. But - for us anyway, simply being completely selfish - this is a step back. By far the best experience we had with these "express" systems came in our last trip, in 2022. We were some of the lucky ones who were able to purchase Genie+ for our entire length of stay, so no worrying about that every day. And, acknowledging having getting up before 7 to book certain rides is a bit inconvenient in theory, in practise - again for us - it was not a big deal at all.

Our first day that trip was a textbook example of what could be done with the system. We booked an ILL for SDMT at MK for just after lunch, and roped dropped that park; we also booked an ILL for RotR for about 4, and Genie+ for SDD in the evening. We toured MK at open hitting rides based on wait times, and two hours in I booked another Genie+ for the afternoon in HS. And so on, every two hours, stacking times at HS. Hopped over there after SDMT, and began to "churn" through our Genie selections, adding another after each tap in.

Sounds complicated, right? And stuck staring at your phone all day, right? Not at all. I don't think that was ever true. I mean, are there folks out there that simply refuse to check wait times on their phones at all? Just on principle? Meaning you have to walk half a mile in the brutal heat just to see a line is too long?

In other words - you're in line for a ride. Where to next you wonder? Let's check the ride times. Oh look - there's a Genie+ return time for Big Thunder - I think I'll take it! It's not that hard.

Using this system, in the day I'm describing above we were able to (including the ILLs) skip the standby lines for about a dozen rides. It was awesome.

Oh well. La plus ca change ...

 

[CJK]

Is anyone else having problems seeing this information when using the links that people are putting on here? I end up at a page that just seems to be guest services. What am I doing wrong? I don't see anything like what is below.

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Are you located outside of the United States? I'm in Canada, and I have to switch the website to the American website, in order to see it. International guests (as of now) won't be able to book rides in advance unless they are physically in the USA.

 

[starlite_]

Indeed. You can only book in advance one Tier 1 ride. That means:

• Guests with longer trips (staying at WDW resorts can book up to 14 days ahead) have an advantage over all other guests.
• Guest is not staying at the resorts? Good luck getting a Tier 1 ride, since they can only book 3 days in advance.
• You can only book another LL after using one of your pre-booked 3. So if you book for basically any later than 1-2 hrs after park opening then chances are all Tier 1 rides will be sold out by the time you can book a second one. But if you do that then you are basically wasting a LL because lines are short at park opening.

Why anyone would like this is beyond me but each to their own xD. Once again super happy DLR is not adopting these changes.

So essentially it's the old FP+ system is what you are saying? Where most Tier 1's were gone by day of. Gotta think this would also limit same day LL purchases.

 

[irlandaise]

Is anyone else having problems seeing this information when using the links that people are putting on here? I end up at a page that just seems to be guest services. What am I doing wrong? I don't see anything like what is below.

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Are you going to:

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/lightning-lane-passes/

Once you're on that page, to see the qualifying attractions for each park, you need to click on the View Lightning Lane Experiences link for the park you want.

 

[Obi-J Kenobi]

So, if I got this straight CommuniCore Hall opened this month with a LL for character meet and greets, and starting next month there will be no LL for character meet and greets.

Aren't the people in this company and at WDW speaking to one another?

Just bizarre.

 

[bizaro86]

Are you going to:

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/lightning-lane-passes/

Once you're on that page, to see the qualifying attractions for each park, you need to click on the View Lightning Lane Experiences link for the park you want.

That site doesn't work outside the USA unless you change the country to USA.

It sounds like selecting rides in advance will be geoblocked to the US as well, which probably means we aren't coming to WDW anymore (unless there's a workaround). All-standby doesn't appeal given the level of LL priority, and being stuck with the leftovers once we've arrived doesn't seem worth it either.

 

[irlandaise]

That site doesn't work outside the USA unless you change the country to USA.

That could have been the issue, or the OP just didn't notice the links.

It sounds like selecting rides in advance will be geoblocked to the US as well

Which is a good reason to prevent people in other countries from seeing the details and thinking they'll be able to access the reservations before they get to the U.S. They'd be confused and frustrated when they couldn't find the option on the Disney app.

It would be good if Disney put a link to more information for people in that situation, so they know they'll be able to make reservations as soon as they're in the country.

 

[CT Disney]

Can you purchase the multi pass for some days of your trip but not others?

Is the purchase day 7 days before check-in to a Disney resort or 7 days prior to your first park day?

So if I’m checking in to a Disney resort on Sunday and my first park day is Monday, but I want to buy the multi-pass for only Tuesday and Wednesday, when can I purchase? Would it be 7 days before Sunday or 7 days before Monday?

 

[adizzle819]

Think we will be able to choose overlapping time windows?