College Program Questions Thread, Pt 3

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Question about getting around:
Okay, I haven't even applied for the CP yet but this thought crossed my mind: I don't plan on bringing a car to the CP when I do it, but I do plan on getting a Vespa for college anyway. Would it be worth it to bring that down and use it instead of a car? (I'm saving up for one of the ones that can go faster than 40 mph, but we shall see.)
 
I'm planning on applying for the Spring '10 CP, and have a question about roles.

What exactly is 'recreation'? I mean, I read the basic description online about it, but I would like to hear more about it from people who've done it before. What are the common positions? Was it fun?

I also heard that recreation was combined with life-guarding? Is this true? i was thinking about putting recreation down for one of my top 3 roles, but I don't want to do life-guarding, so I just want to be sure.

I also heard that the merchandise role incorporates a lot of storage work. Does it?

I'm really excited to apply, but I want to make sure I choose the roles that I would like the best!

TIA!!
 
Question about getting around:
Okay, I haven't even applied for the CP yet but this thought crossed my mind: I don't plan on bringing a car to the CP when I do it, but I do plan on getting a Vespa for college anyway. Would it be worth it to bring that down and use it instead of a car? (I'm saving up for one of the ones that can go faster than 40 mph, but we shall see.)

I wouldn't. To get to and from work and around Orlando you will have to go on some very heavily travelled roads and highways and the drivers there are horrible! Hit and run accidents were nightly occurrences. I don't think I would feel safe on a Vespa (and it may not even be allowed. Normal bicycles aren't, you wouldhave to check).

I'm planning on applying for the Spring '10 CP, and have a question about roles.

What exactly is 'recreation'? I mean, I read the basic description online about it, but I would like to hear more about it from people who've done it before. What are the common positions? Was it fun?

I also heard that recreation was combined with life-guarding? Is this true? i was thinking about putting recreation down for one of my top 3 roles, but I don't want to do life-guarding, so I just want to be sure.

I also heard that the merchandise role incorporates a lot of storage work. Does it?

I'm really excited to apply, but I want to make sure I choose the roles that I would like the best!

TIA!!

Yes, merch does involve a lot of storage work, but all my friends who worked merch really liked it. Can't help you with the recreation one.
 

To be honest, it will depend more on your location and season than your actual role.

Here are some examples:

-I worked attractions my first CP in Fantasyland. During non-peak season when the park was only open til 8 or 9 I was really only getting the bare minimum each week. During peak season when we were all on mandatory six days I was scheduled 60 hours a week and there were times I had as many as 80 because I signed up for extra shifts. Of course, it helps when your out time is something like 3 am because of extra magic hours, grad nights, etc.

On the other hand, I had friends who worked at AK which closes early every night (there is no nighttime parade or fireworks) because of the habitats. So they did not get nearly *** many hours as I did.

-In entertainment I was in a very in demand height range and because of my reputation/work ethic was often asked to do special events, so I pulled similar hours in entertainment that I did in attractions. It also helped that I was trained for several parades and shows. Friends who were in more common height ranges/ height ranges with fewer characters did not get as many hours.

Another example might be merchandise. If you work merchandise in the parks (particularly Magic Kingdom) you will probably get more hours than merchandise in a resort or water park.

So really, it will depend on not only what your role is, but where you are.

My guess for roles with the most hours will be attractions, merchandise, and custodial- particularly if you are in a park. Restaurants (including QSR) will close before the park closes while rides close after and merch continues up to an hour after park closing.

There is also a wonderful thing called Extra Hours Hotline. I have picked up several QSR shifts filling beverages even though I was not QSR trained. I have also picked up shifts in my own area or other areas where you had to be fast passed train. You can always find a variety of shifts that do or do not require training.
 
Thanks!

Also, what are the best roles for lots of hours?

If you want lots of hours QSFB is probably the best bet. Merch wasn't bad, particularly during Spring Break.

Let me tell you what I liked about merch. There were days that I was scheduled to stock and those days, I could "self break", so wasn't bound to CDS all day. I was usually out and about with a cart of merch and able to take time to talk to guests where when I was on a register, I was limited to the time of the transaction and if it was busy, often felt hurried. Stocking got me in and out so I wasn't always out in the heat/weather, but I wasn't cooped up inside all day, either.

Merch is an excellent way to have lots of guest contact and make lots of magic. There were MANY opportunities for me to do other things, as well. I trained in the money room, so got to add that to my list of competencies. I also was tasked with creating Magical Moments, one of which even won a contest the area was having (and if you do to Dinoland and get a special celebration song, you can blame me! ;) ) I did have the opportunity to switch to attractions part-way in, but opted not to and am glad. I'm sure it would have been a lot of fun, but I'm not sure I would have had the chance to make as much magic for the guests.
 
If you want lots of hours QSFB is probably the best bet. Merch wasn't bad, particularly during Spring Break.

Let me tell you what I liked about merch. There were days that I was scheduled to stock and those days, I could "self break", so wasn't bound to CDS all day. I was usually out and about with a cart of merch and able to take time to talk to guests where when I was on a register, I was limited to the time of the transaction and if it was busy, often felt hurried. Stocking got me in and out so I wasn't always out in the heat/weather, but I wasn't cooped up inside all day, either.

Merch is an excellent way to have lots of guest contact and make lots of magic. There were MANY opportunities for me to do other things, as well. I trained in the money room, so got to add that to my list of competencies. I also was tasked with creating Magical Moments, one of which even won a contest the area was having (and if you do to Dinoland and get a special celebration song, you can blame me! ;) ) I did have the opportunity to switch to attractions part-way in, but opted not to and am glad. I'm sure it would have been a lot of fun, but I'm not sure I would have had the chance to make as much magic for the guests.

Really, any role can make magic. I used to love working attractions and felt like I really had the opoprtunity to make magic for guests! There were a variety of things we did:

-If a person was having problem with the fastpass machine I could just print them out myself and then they could use their cards for fast passes for another ride. Sometimes if it was slow we would pick a family and just give them fast passes before they even walked up to the machines!

-If a ride was slow we could offer them to go around again or choose a family to randomly bring them up FP.

-We would sometimes play with the guests in line, sing Happy Birthday, etc.

-If you work attractions you often get to work parade control which is a lot of fun. Again, we would play games, pin trade, do all kinds of things that made magic for guests. Since Fantasyland handled the Priority Seating, if it wasn't full we would pick a famiily or two to sit there.

-If there are characters in your area you can sometimes arrange for an extra special greeting.

My absolute favorite was one that was featured in a news story. When I worked in Fantasyland we had this little boy named Ben. Every Wednesday his parents would bring him to ride Snow White. He had a GAC that allowed him to use the alternate entrance. He would ride three times, go do something else, ride three times, etc. We would give him Snow White pins and always looked forward to seeing him. You see, Ben had autism and his family found out that when they visited Disney he began talking and doing other things that he had never been able to do before.

After I left Ben had his 2000th ride. Disney arranged for Snow White and all 7 Dwarves to be there. That was truly magic for that family!

Here is an article about Ben. I'm trying to find the one that describes his 2000th ride.
 
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My absolute favorite was one that was featured in a news story. When I worked in Fantasyland we had this little boy named Ben. Every Wednesday his parents would bring him to ride Snow White. He had a GAC that allowed him to use the alternate entrance. He would ride three times, go do something else, ride three times, etc. We would give him Snow White pins and always looked forward to seeing him. You see, Ben had autism and his family found out that when they visited Disney he began talking and doing other things that he had never been able to do before.

After I left Ben had his 2000th ride. Disney arranged for Snow White and all 7 Dwarves to be there. That was truly magic for that family!

Here is an article about Ben. I'm trying to find the one that describes his 2000th ride.

Here you go Jessi. I got it from another Disney message board, where Ben's father posts:

Before I start the actual story, I need to specifically thank three people who made this all happen. Carl Bond is the Area Manager for Entertainment at Epcot, and it was his initial involvement that got the ball rolling. Without his help none of this would have ever happened. Scott Cook is Carl's counterpart at the Magic Kingdom, and he jumped into action as soon as Carl contacted him. Finally, David Storm is one of the lead Dream Team members at the Magic Kingdom. He really took this story to heart, and created an event that so far exceeded our wildest imagination that I cannot even begin to thank him enough. All three of them will be getting personal letters of thanks from us this week, both directly and to their supervisors so that they can get the recognition they deserve. Yesterday was simply an amazing day all around, a piece of magic that neither Ben nor the rest of our family will ever forget.

The first notable thing that happened when we got to the Magic Kingdom yesterday was when a cast member at the Ticket & Transportation Center gave Ben an "Honorary Citizen" button after hearing about what was going to happen that day. Ben wore that button proudly all day. David Storm met us on Main Street just to meet Ben and to make sure all of the plans were in order for the day. David was exceptionally nice, said he would see us at 3:30 in front of City Hall, and told us that he had something spectacular planned for the 2,000th ride later that afternoon.

From there Ben made a bee line to the Snow White ride for his first three rides of the day, bringing his total to 1993. Next was a walk over to The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh for a quick ride, and then time for a snack at the Village Fry Shoppe. At this point I have to note that, much in the spirit of Pooh, it was a very blustery day. Ben sat down with his fries at a table out in the courtyard, but before he could even touch his first fry a gust of wind came along and sent the whole thing flying. The poor people at the next table found themselves on the receiving end of a fry storm, and Ben was distraught. It was like it was happening in slow motion, with Ben screaming, "Noooooooooooooo!" as his fries went sailing away. Fortunately, the people at the fry shop were kind enough to replace his fries, and then we found a more sheltered spot for Ben to sit and enjoy his snack.

Following the flying french fry episode it was time for another set of rides on Snow White, bringing his total to 1996. Next up was a visit to Pirates of the Caribbean, which has lately become popular with him. For years he refused to go anywhere near the ride (or any other water-based ride for that matter), but a few months ago he rediscovered Pirates and has wanted to go on it at least once every visit.

Coming back from Pirates there was a minor crisis because the candy store was apparently all out of Nerds. After three successive shops it became apparent that there was some kind of global shortage of Nerds at the Magic Kingdom, and Ben was on the verge of tears. Fortunately he settled for different candy, and a complete meltdown was averted. Three more trips on Snow White, and he was up to 1,999.

The timing was perfect, we left Fantasyland and got ahead of the 3:00 parade. We made it to City Hall just before the parade reached that point, and for the first time in his life Ben actually sat and watched the entire parade. Ben's mom met us there, as well as Ben's grandparents, and we had a great time watching the parade go by. Once it was over, we went into City Hall and let them know we were there. I expected David to come out to greet us, but instead we were greeted by an entire phalanx of Dream Team cast members. Ben seemed flattered by all the attention, and we stood around and socialized for a few minutes. Finally yet another Dream Team member came out to tell us they were ready. We were all escorted behind the counter and into the VIP room.

I had been told in advance that Ben was getting a private meet and greet with Snow White. What I didn't expect was Snow White, all seven dwarfs, Prince Charming, the Wicked Queen, plus a professional photographer and numerous other cast members. Ben was completely gob smacked. He waded into the crowd of characters, and was bewildered at all of them. There was a perfect moment when Snow White herself leaned down and kissed him on the cheek, leaving big read lipstick marks. Ben got a little bashful, then he took a step forward and had a huge grin on his face. He touched several of the dwarfs, and just generally soaked it all in.

When the meet and greet was over, it was time to walk over for the 2,000th ride. I expected David to walk us over, which he did, but he was also joined by an army of other cast members. He called ahead to let the folks at the ride know that we were coming, and when we were about to walk around the corner. The cast members cut a path for us, and Ben was escorted directly onto the ride. He sat in the front row with his mom, Kris and I sat behind them, and his grandparents sat in the back row. A photographer was there taking pictures as we got into the
mine cart and as we started the ride.

The ride itself was pretty much like it had been for the last 1,999 times. Seriously, there just aren't any surprises left in there for me, but Ben seems to love it just as much every single time he goes on it. Of course the photographer was there to get pictures of us as the mine cart was coming out of the ride at the very end. I thought the whole thing was pretty cool, and I was pleased with what Disney had done for us. I had no idea what was about to happen.

As soon as we got off the ride, we saw that a huge crowd had formed. At the center was a giant sign commemorating Ben's 2,000th ride, signed by Snow White and all seven dwarfs. There was also a cast member holding a display with a beautiful custom framed picture of Snow White and the dwarfs, also autographed by all of them, plus some collector's pins, a Snow White cup, another picture frame, and a pile of jewels. The photographer continued to take pictures as David announced to the entire crowd what Ben had just achieved, and the whole crowd cheered. Ben came forward, and they put on his head a pair of Micky Mouse Club mouse ears with his name embroidered on them. He wore that hat for the rest of the day, not taking it off until he crawled into bed. For a kid that never, ever wears hats that was pretty exceptional. We were all completely overwhelmed by the whole thing.

Of course, once all the hoopla was over (well, actually, *before* all the hoopla was over), Ben turned around and went back to the ride. It was just Ben and me on that 2,001st ride, and the whole time through he had a big smile. Now that he was in his quiet space, with just me and his favorite ride, he relaxed enough to show just how much he had enjoyed the whole thing.

All total yesterday he went on Snow White 14 times, and aside from the other rides I already mentioned he also went on the Haunted Mansion. He wore those mouse hears and kept that lipstick mark on his cheek all day long. When we finally made it home, he had some dinner and then collapsed in to bed by 8:30pm. He slept like a rock, and even now he still has the lipstick on his face. He has looked at the pictures from yesterday, and is very happy. All in all it was a completely amazing and magical experience.

One other thing worth noting - not long after the big ride I got a phone call from the photographer. He wanted to get my address so that they could mail out a photo CD with all of the pictures they took that day. Between the value of all of those pictures, all of the gifts they gave Ben, and all of the time and labor that Disney put in to making the event happen, Disney put in hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars into making one autistic boy feel special for a day. That is not something that I will soon forget. Disney often has a reputation for being some kind of evil, money-grubbing empire. And maybe some of that reputation is well deserved. But every time I walk into that park with Ben, not just yesterday but on *every* *single* *visit*, I am struck by just how much Disney has done for my son. His first recognizable words where when he started to sing along with me to "The Bear Necessities" when he was six years old. For years he carried a plush Sorcerer Mickey doll with him everywhere he went. The thing that most helps keep him calm when the world gets overwhelming is his iPod filled with Disney music. People like Carl Bond, Scott Cook and David Storm have had a direct and lasting positive impact on his life. Virtually every cast member that works in Fantasyland has at one time or another stopped and done a little something for Ben to make his day a little more magical. Walt Disney himself, who passed away decades before Ben was born, has seemed to reach across time all the way from 1937 in order to bring Ben a never ending source of happiness. I don't know what is in store for Ben in the future. I worry about what will happen when he is an adult, what will happen when I am no longer here to take care of him, but for this weekend at least I am content with my son's well being. I owe an important part of that to Disney and all that they have collectively done, and for that I am eternally grateful.

From http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=286202
 
To be honest, it will depend more on your location and season than your actual role.

Here are some examples:

-I worked attractions my first CP in Fantasyland. During non-peak season when the park was only open til 8 or 9 I was really only getting the bare minimum each week. During peak season when we were all on mandatory six days I was scheduled 60 hours a week and there were times I had as many as 80 because I signed up for extra shifts. Of course, it helps when your out time is something like 3 am because of extra magic hours, grad nights, etc.

On the other hand, I had friends who worked at AK which closes early every night (there is no nighttime parade or fireworks) because of the habitats. So they did not get nearly *** many hours as I did.

-In entertainment I was in a very in demand height range and because of my reputation/work ethic was often asked to do special events, so I pulled similar hours in entertainment that I did in attractions. It also helped that I was trained for several parades and shows. Friends who were in more common height ranges/ height ranges with fewer characters did not get as many hours.

Another example might be merchandise. If you work merchandise in the parks (particularly Magic Kingdom) you will probably get more hours than merchandise in a resort or water park.

So really, it will depend on not only what your role is, but where you are.

My guess for roles with the most hours will be attractions, merchandise, and custodial- particularly if you are in a park. Restaurants (including QSR) will close before the park closes while rides close after and merch continues up to an hour after park closing.

There is also a wonderful thing called Extra Hours Hotline. I have picked up several QSR shifts filling beverages even though I was not QSR trained. I have also picked up shifts in my own area or other areas where you had to be fast passed train. You can always find a variety of shifts that do or do not require training.

Thanks for all the info! I didn't know about the extra hours hotline (my sister is in the CP right now, and she hasn't mentioned this at all), but it sounds very helpful!

If you want lots of hours QSFB is probably the best bet. Merch wasn't bad, particularly during Spring Break.

Let me tell you what I liked about merch. There were days that I was scheduled to stock and those days, I could "self break", so wasn't bound to CDS all day. I was usually out and about with a cart of merch and able to take time to talk to guests where when I was on a register, I was limited to the time of the transaction and if it was busy, often felt hurried. Stocking got me in and out so I wasn't always out in the heat/weather, but I wasn't cooped up inside all day, either.

Merch is an excellent way to have lots of guest contact and make lots of magic. There were MANY opportunities for me to do other things, as well. I trained in the money room, so got to add that to my list of competencies. I also was tasked with creating Magical Moments, one of which even won a contest the area was having (and if you do to Dinoland and get a special celebration song, you can blame me! ;) ) I did have the opportunity to switch to attractions part-way in, but opted not to and am glad. I'm sure it would have been a lot of fun, but I'm not sure I would have had the chance to make as much magic for the guests.

Oh this is good to hear! That's the thing I'm looking for the most, being able to interact with the guests a lot and help create magical moments. It's something I've always admired when visiting the parks, and I've always wanted to be a part of it!
 
-If you work attractions you often get to work parade control which is a lot of fun. Again, we would play games, pin trade, do all kinds of things that made magic for guests. Since Fantasyland handled the Priority Seating, if it wasn't full we would pick a famiily or two to sit there.

OK, forgot about PAC! Used to be that PAC was anybody, but now it's only for attractions peeps. My 20yo is on "Team Possible", so she picks up PAC shift whenever she can b/c she REALLY enjoys it.

As for extra hours, maybe with Summer coming on it will pick up, but there weren't very many during the Spring CP until around Spring Break.

ETA: the other advantage to merch is MATRA training which becomes very useful down the road for picking up shifts. You don't get that in attractions. 20yo was VERY glad to have done merch before moving to attractions b/c now she has more opportunities.
 
Question about the summer session...I'm pretty sure I've heard about first-time CPers doing it in the past, but when I looked on the CP website a few weeks ago, it said that only returning CPers would be able to do a summer session. I looked again today and now it says that plans for a summer 2010 session are still being debated.

Any idea why they're changing it and whether or not first-timers will be accepted again? Has it not been very popular in the past? Thanks!
 
Question about the summer session...I'm pretty sure I've heard about first-time CPers doing it in the past, but when I looked on the CP website a few weeks ago, it said that only returning CPers would be able to do a summer session. I looked again today and now it says that plans for a summer 2010 session are still being debated.

Any idea why they're changing it and whether or not first-timers will be accepted again? Has it not been very popular in the past? Thanks!

That is correct. Currently the summer CP is just for alumni (people who have done the CP before). The last time there was a first-time summer CP was in 2006. And unfortunately I don't believe there will be one anytime soon. The CP has become too popular, and there just isn't enough room. So I am going to guess that if there even is a summer program next summer, it will be for alumni.
 
The summer program was discontinued for a number of reasons. By the time you move down there and train you have wasted a lot of time. To give you an idea of a typical time table:

The first week you arrive and move in. The next day is when you present the required documents and learn your location. Normally within 3 days you do Traditions. After that you have your home park training which is another day. Then you start doing your area training, typically the following week. That can last a week or more depending on the area and the responsibilities.

That takes up a lot of time and many participants said they did not feel like they had enough time to do things. Those who are only there for the summer sessions typically cannot take classes or take advantage of other opportunities that make the College Program the College Program.

It is very expensive to train people, so it makes more sense to open up summers to people who are going to be there for a longer period of time. The reason they open it up to people who have already been there is they do not have to go through all that training again. For example: when I ddi my second CP I was able to skip Traditions and Park training and go straight into my character training. The third time I started work immediately because I still had all of my approvals.

They did open it up in 2006 because they had a few roles that they could not fill up. With an increase in enrollment as well as a weak economy that has caused Disney to cut back on jobs the summer program is not necessary. What happened in 2006 was really a one time thing and I would not hold my breath on it happening again.
 
I have a question about picking up roles. I was accepted for merchandising, say I am placed in a Tomorrowland Merchandise location. Am I allowed to pick up Merchandise shifts in that park and around other locations. I understand that I will be trained in my area, and some places do need extra training, but I would like the opportunity to pick up shifts and work in different areas in the park.
 
I have a question about picking up roles. I was accepted for merchandising, say I am placed in a Tomorrowland Merchandise location. Am I allowed to pick up Merchandise shifts in that park and around other locations. I understand that I will be trained in my area, and some places do need extra training, but I would like the opportunity to pick up shifts and work in different areas in the park.

It will depend on the shift. For instance, many merchandise shifts may require training on the system Disney uses- which you will have. Attractions shifts may require Fastpass training or training on that specific ride. Parade shifts require PAC training, etc.

Then there are shifts that require no training. The one I most often saw were food and beverage shifts where you basically fill drinks all day. Not glamorous, but it's money in your pocket!
 
It will depend on the shift. For instance, many merchandise shifts may require training on the system Disney uses- which you will have. Attractions shifts may require Fastpass training or training on that specific ride. Parade shifts require PAC training, etc.

Then there are shifts that require no training. The one I most often saw were food and beverage shifts where you basically fill drinks all day. Not glamorous, but it's money in your pocket!

Thanks!! That's good enough for me filling drinks is easy money!
 
Just to throw in my 2 cents, entertainment is a huge work load!!! performers get paid more money than other roles and are usually on for only about 20 min. every hour. however, it all depends on height and how many hours you can pick up. Character attendants, however, can get a ton of hours if you are placed in the right areas. even now, it is pretty much any park has a ton of places for attendants. I have been scheduled for 52 hours this past week and next. they give an estimate of 52 hours in peak times, not off peak. so go figure. Not complaining though, it's overtime. but a 16 hour day, 6 hours of sleep and a 13 hour day is tough. At MK the judges tent and pixie hollow will keep you busy. the best is going out, doing a 20, then being off with the character. so much easier!!! So, yea. entertainment is tough at first, a lot of learning as you go, most Cast members are nice but some are just obnoxious, some photopass photographers. It's kinda a sad thing, depressing, so I try to just let it role off my back, realize they are also working super long hours, don't get breaks like 20 on 40 off, work outside a LOT deal with technology problems annoying guests, etc. but i take things to heart an its sometimes hard, or embarassing. It's a learning and comfort level thing. an try to meet people. I'm kinda introverted to it's a wierd thing, I take work seriously so loosening up an meeting other CMs is a work in progress. it is truly mindblowing and fun though!!!
Sorry this is so long!!
Goofster18
 
I have a question how do I get a taxi from the airport? Are they there or do I have to call and order one and if so do you know the number?? TIA!
 
There will be taxis and shuttles available right when you get off the plane. There is typically a line and someone will give you the next available taxi as they arrive.
 
Im going down the day before on June 14th and Im going to be staying at the hotel right across from vista way I think, holiday inn sunspree. Does anyone know how much a taxi will cost to get from the airport to there? TIA!
 
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