College Program Questions Thread, Pt 3

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Ok so I'm bringing my car and I'm wondering if it's bad driving down there? Like if there are always tons of cars everywhere, if the roads are confusing.. and whether it's hard to find places/how far away are the parks from where you stay? I might get a gps before then but I don't know, plus I know you can't always rely on that haha.

The GPS is not necessary. It's fairly easy to get around, once you figure it out. If you are directionally-challenged, then proceed with your purchase. My internal GPS never rarely, if ever, fails me. As for traffic, it can get heavy, but you will learn the areas to avoid and when. I didn't have any trouble using I-4 around rush hour if going from Animal Kingdom to Little Lake Bryan, but to each his/her own. The stretch of Buena Vista by the Hotel corridor/DTD is ALWAYS congested. The biggest annoyance about driving there is that there are so many tourists who don't have the slightest clue where they are going, or that the want to drive slow and stare because "Mickey's on that sign!!!" ...it's not to bad though. Carpool with friends...you won't notice much. It's worth having a car, but expect to have friends ask for rides from time to time. It's okay to say no, but more fun to share the trip, IMO.

Does anyone know how employers look at this type of experience? No offense, but it seems like a cheap way for Disney to get some cheap labor.

It depends on what you're looking to go into, of course. Yes, in a lot of ways, you're right, but everything we choose to do in life must be for ourselves--you only get one chance. You get what you put into the program. This experience changed my life and I'd do it again and again if I could. I would love to go back and work there and plan to at some point.

I have received job offers(non-Disney) because of this, but even if it didn't help, it filled a post-graduation gap on resume. I had a great time--and an INCREDIBLE experience. I made some of the VERY BEST friends of my ENTIRE life there--4 years later, we still talk regularly.

You have to decide what is best for yourself. This program IS NOT for everyone and is, for the most part, a LOVE IT or HATE IT kind of thing. Good luck deciding! :goodvibes
 
Does anyone know how employers look at this type of experience? No offense, but it seems like a cheap way for Disney to get some cheap labor.

When you think about it, it really isn't as "cheap" as it sounds. Disney puts a lot of money and effort into training and offers classes for free. There are Harvard Business certificates you can earn by doing coursework for FREE. The Development Connection and Disney U have offerings all the time that look fantastic on a resume (a course about which you can also take for FREE). The opportunities for education and plussing up the resume are boundless, so you are certainly getting a fair exchange of resume equity for your "cheap" labor. Business Week rated Disney as the number 1 place to launch a career. After Google, it is ranked as the 2nd most desired place to work. Something to be said for that.
 
When you think about it, it really isn't as "cheap" as it sounds. Disney puts a lot of money and effort into training and offers classes for free. There are Harvard Business certificates you can earn by doing coursework for FREE. The Development Connection and Disney U have offerings all the time that look fantastic on a resume (a course about which you can also take for FREE). The opportunities for education and plussing up the resume are boundless, so you are certainly getting a fair exchange of resume equity for your "cheap" labor. Business Week rated Disney as the number 1 place to launch a career. After Google, it is ranked as the 2nd most desired place to work. Something to be said for that.

Agreed! :thumbsup2

Also, as far as cheap goes, we did the math once and if Disney gave every WDW employee a 1-dollar raise per hour, they would spend over $2million more a week!!! It's really staggering, especially when you start to learn the figures of what it takes to maintain the parks as well as what goes out per week to pay the hourly employees. There is nothing cheap about it, and they do pay more than minimum wage.

I wish I had taken advantage of the educational opportunities, but fresh off of 4.5 years of university work, I was exhausted and wanted to be far from class for a while. The educational opportunities are most definitely worth pursuing and well worth the time and effort. Take advantage of EVERY OPPORTUNITY you can, should you decide to go!
 
Ok thanks everyone. I am pretty bad with directions so I'd feel better if I had one at least! I wouldn't mind bringing people I don't think but do many people ask for them to give them money at least if they're always riding? It only seems fair but I wouldn't want to feel rude even if it isn't at all.
 

Ok thanks everyone. I am pretty bad with directions so I'd feel better if I had one at least! I wouldn't mind bringing people I don't think but do many people ask for them to give them money at least if they're always riding? It only seems fair but I wouldn't want to feel rude even if it isn't at all.

If they are your real friends they will help you out with gas. If you give someone a ride a few times and they don't off to help I would ask. If they say they don't think they should have too. Well no more rides.:rotfl2:

But that's a personal decision.
 
Yo-la!

Question for CPW's:

How do those of you without cars fare? I have no vehicle. I'm pretty used to getting myself around and doing my errands here where I live. (Just an economy fare bus pass to get to the bank and store, and a hitcher's thumb past bus hours at night).

Er..I'd be hoping to make a lot of great friends I could carpool with to get around for my necessities in Anahiem.

The rest of you have managed?
 
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When you think about it, it really isn't as "cheap" as it sounds. Disney puts a lot of money and effort into training and offers classes for free. There are Harvard Business certificates you can earn by doing coursework for FREE. The Development Connection and Disney U have offerings all the time that look fantastic on a r esume (a course about which you can also take for FREE). The opportunities for education and plussing up the resume are boundless, so you are certainly getting a fair exchange of resume equity for your "cheap" labor. Business Week rated Disney as the number 1 place to launch a career. After Google, it is ranked as the 2nd most desired place to work. Something to be said for that.

This is very true, Disney as an organisation has long been well known as a good thing to have on your CV. In areas such as formation, training and the like, The Walt Disney Company and Walt Disney Parks and Resorts in particular have long led the way in quality and development of new ideas.

Case in point, there's a long standing informal offer in the Central Florida tourism industry: if someone is able to become a WDW manager and remain in that role for a certain amount of time, they can then get an automatic very generous pay raise over their WDW salary by going over and accepting a Management position with Universal Orlando.

Many other businesses, here in Orlando and elsewhere, have similar offers; and even those that don't will almost always be willing to look at you in a more favourable light then they would otherwise. Even if your long term plans don't see you with Disney. It can certainly be a benefit.
 
Well when I think of the labor issues I mainly think of fairness and equality. I may work up to 60 hours a week, but I'm still looked at on a smaller scale than maybe seasonal people. It's one of the first things they flat out admitted to me. We also don't get benefits as CPs. It's not like a "real" job where you have much say in your hours or schedule- because you have absolutely none unless you have a scheduled Disney class. However, part-time and full-time people who work just as much or way less than you will have those kind of benefits. Or even just, like I said, the ability to have the slightest control over your schedule and when (or where) you work.

And I wouldn't feel *too* sorry for Disney, personally, as far as money goes. I mean, look how much they probably spend on just, say, fireworks, for one week. I think they could afford to pay me a little bit more than minimum wage, especially when we're moving across the country, taking a semester out of school, and working over 40 hours a week for them.

If you're serious about it and make the program work for you then it can make you look really good. If you're like me and you were just wanting to get away from school that plan usually seems to backfire on people. I actually missed school while I was down there! I missed it terribly, lol! I never imagined a job could make me want to be back in biology class!

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As far as driving goes I HATED it. I loved the roads because they were nicer than our roads here, but the drivers were crazy. Everybody speeds and nobody's nice. You have to U-turn to turn around just about anywhere, which drove me crazy. There were way too many one-way streets. And gas was a lot more expensive there than it was back at home.
 
Well when I think of the labor issues I mainly think of fairness and equality. I may work up to 60 hours a week, but I'm still looked at on a smaller scale than maybe seasonal people. It's one of the first things they flat out admitted to me. We also don't get benefits as CPs. It's not like a "real" job where you have much say in your hours or schedule- because you have absolutely none unless you have a scheduled Disney class. However, part-time and full-time people who work just as much or way less than you will have those kind of benefits. Or even just, like I said, the ability to have the slightest control over your schedule and when (or where) you work.

And I wouldn't feel *too* sorry for Disney, personally, as far as money goes. I mean, look how much they probably spend on just, say, fireworks, for one week. I think they could afford to pay me a little bit more than minimum wage, especially when we're moving across the country, taking a semester out of school, and working over 40 hours a week for them.

If you're serious about it and make the program work for you then it can make you look really good. If you're like me and you were just wanting to get away from school that plan usually seems to backfire on people. I actually missed school while I was down there! I missed it terribly, lol! I never imagined a job could make me want to be back in biology class!

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As far as driving goes I HATED it. I loved the roads because they were nicer than our roads here, but the drivers were crazy. Everybody speeds and nobody's nice. You have to U-turn to turn around just about anywhere, which drove me crazy. There were way too many one-way streets. And gas was a lot more expensive there than it was back at home.

While I respect your opinion and perspective, I would like to reflect with my own experience (and that of my daughters who were also CP, then went into FT, PT, and seasonal, so we've all done at least one of those statuses) just to offer an alternate viewpoint.

"Fairness and equality" are relative. I'm getting my master's and I'm in an HR seminar right now where we are talking about defining "fair" for employees, much less 60,000 of them. When one is hired into the CP, one is treated the same as other CPs. Of course one is not going to be given the same benefits as a full- or part-timer as they are the ones who have made a long-term commitment to the company and the company is recouping their training investment. CPs are there for 5-8 months MAYBE, so not much chance for ROI there.

I've never had a "real" job where I got to have control over the days/times I worked. I agreed to work a certain schedule or have certain availability. Again, however, I was being hired for the long-term, not a short stint, so that gave me the privilege of asking for certain days off. The CP asks up front if you can give full availability, so it's not like you are blindsided by that notion.

You mention the 60 hour weeks, but it should be noted that you are paid overtime and often that overtime goes to CPs before it goes to statused CMs. I loved me some 60 hour paychecks!

CPs also are given housing and transportation at greatly reduced prices. Try seeing how much a similar (close to property, gated) apartment would cost with all of the deposits, utilities, etc. Those are costs incurred by statused CMs that CPs do not have to worry about.

Please remember that Disney is a corporation and profits matter to its shareholders. It has to find a balance of expenses, including wages, so, no, it's not going to drop some fireworks to bump up paychecks. The Company is well within the minimum wage laws and from an HR perspective, that simply isn't going to change, particularly when so much is invested in training and educational opportunities. That is an opportunity cost they are simply not going to make.

I think the above poster hit the nail on the head, though, about being serious about it. Life (and the CP) is what YOU make it. If you come with a positive attitude and a clear understanding of what you are in for (easily gleaned from threads like this one or blogs) and understand that it is work and not a big party all the time, you should be just fine. Yes, there are opportunities for friendship and fun, but there are also tremendous opportunities to learn and grow, IF you are serious about taking advantage of them and those are what will give you equity on your resume and in your life.

As far as driving goes, gas is the same here as it is in Ohio most days (my husband is there, we compare prices). I recently did a road trip through FL-GA-TN-AR-OK-TX-LA-MS-AL-FL and gas was within .10 everywhere I stopped. When my DDs were on the CP, they kept a "gas cup" in the car and friends who hitched rides made a donation. They generally never had to pay for their own gas. We also have not found it a difficult place to drive with the exception of their being tourist traffic and they sometimes don't know where they are going. You learn routes around the usual and which stores to go to in order to avoid them.
 
And I wouldn't feel *too* sorry for Disney, personally, as far as money goes. I mean, look how much they probably spend on just, say, fireworks, for one week. I think they could afford to pay me a little bit more than minimum wage, especially when we're moving across the country, taking a semester out of school, and working over 40 hours a week for them.

Ugh, this just makes me sick. Do you have any idea how many people are out of work? How many people are trying to make ends meet on shorter hours, and willing to work for ANYTHING? Just to keep a roof over their heads and be able to eat?

There were 8000 people at an open interview to make minimum wage at some crappy burger joint part-time here where I live.

What makes you think Disney should pay YOU, some kid with an overpriced college education, probably was still living at home, more than minimum wage?

Where do you get off thinking the Disney Company is looking for "cheap labor"?

In this economy, taking on someone holding a "Will Work For Food" sign is not "using cheap labor". Try to appreciate the blessings around you.

(This is not trolling, for some of the more sensitve members. This is a heartfelt and appropriately expressed opinion)
 
I think previous posters responded excellently, just a couple additional thoughts...

We also don't get benefits as CPs. It's not like a "real" job...

That's because it's not a real job, it's an internship; consider yourself lucky that they pay anything.

I think they could afford to pay me a little bit more than minimum wage...

They can afford it and they pay it. ALL CPs make more than minimum wage.
 
My son will be arriving Aug. 9 for the College Program and I have some questions about discounts they receive. We are planning our trips to visit and want to get the best "bang for our buck" as far as room and tickets go. I was fortunate enough to get a PIN for 40% but that will expire in a few days. I also got the 30/35/40 PIN which I can use until the end of the year.
My questions are: 1. When are the blackout dates for their discounts(until the end of 2010)?
2. How much of a discount do they get when they buy park tickets(we have 4 people and the gate pass is for 3, right?)
3. Do they get any discount on the meal plans for the friends and families?
Thanks--I know I will probably have more but Disney's extension of free dining is making my head spin with the possibilities!
 
And I wouldn't feel *too* sorry for Disney, personally, as far as money goes. I mean, look how much they probably spend on just, say, fireworks, for one week. I think they could afford to pay me a little bit more than minimum wage, especially when we're moving across the country, taking a semester out of school, and working over 40 hours a week for them.

What I said about the huge financial difference given a wage change is NOT about feeling sorry for the company. Not at all. I'd like to see how far that extra dollar goes for you when it is in your pocket and there are no fireworks at night. The guests would be complaining to you--and likely quit coming; therefore the company won't need or want you.

Furthermore, as I've said before, and I know others have, Disney pays MORE than minimum wage. At the time I did my CP I had never made as much per hour in a non-tipped job.

Most importantly, though, I have to say, whether or not Disney can afford to pay more is not the point. Those who participate in the program CHOOSE to move across the country, CHOOSE to take a semester off of school, and KNOW they will be working A LOT. Disney really doesn't mask this. They also don't scout out people who aren't independently interested and force them to participate. We CHOOSE to participate in an internship at Disney, and are informed of what to expect up front (wage, hours, living arrangements, etc.)

That said, again, the program is not for everyone. Some Love it. Some hate it.

I know a few people who share your opinion on all of this, and you are absolutely entitled to it, but I, necessarily, must disagree...
 
Actually GPS units don't work very well on Disney Property either. They have most of the major roads, but it's more of an issue that the legal addresses for most WDW Facilities aren't actually where they're physically located (or are located in Backstage areas where you can't go).

Case in point, every so often GPS units will send someone towards Avenue of the Stars in Bay Lake. Problem with that is that Avenue of the Stars is a Backstage Road at Epcot, and isn't publically accessible.

Goods news on this one though: MouseSavers.com actually has a Points of Interest for WDW locations that you can download onto your GPS. It supposedly has the hotels, parks, and stuff. You can check out more info on it here :)

Again though, you are right. I used GPS on a trip in March and it didn't do much for me at all! I haven't had a chance to use the POIs yet, but I think it's really helped other people on the DIS. :goodvibes
 
Here's a great website that a bunch of alumni put together with all the details about the program:

"The three different times that Disney has for their programs are spring, summer, and fall."

When a site misses something as basic as the actual program time frames, I have to question the accuracy of anything else on there. IMHO- not great.
 
"The three different times that Disney has for their programs are spring, summer, and fall."

When a site misses something as basic as the actual program time frames, I have to question the accuracy of anything else on there. IMHO- not great.

The Disney World CP offers a summer program for alumni
 
1. When are the blackout dates for their discounts(until the end of 2010)?

There are not blackouts on room discounts. It's more of a try to book and hope something is available. It's the same process for booking a dining reservation.

2. How much of a discount do they get when they buy park tickets(we have 4 people and the gate pass is for 3, right?)

10% off. Yes, it's up to 3 people per day (6 days).

3. Do they get any discount on the meal plans for the friends and families?

Depends. Sometimes they'll offer a discount during slower times. Currently there is no discounted dining.
 
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