Clearing out a family home

My mom's house was a mess when she died. I had to pay someone $15k to clean out her home and I had to be there in person to help/supervise. I threw out and donated soooo much stuff. Sadly, I brought home some stuff too. It's still in my garage. We have lived in our house for 30 years and I have 30 years worth of acquired junk myself. *sigh* I have started to go through stuff with 4 totes (keep/sell/give away/garbage). The hardest part for me, as a former eBay and Amazon seller, is giving away the "good" stuff I know that I could sell but won't because it's too much trouble.
 
my mom passed away last month and going through her things now. Anything that is semi good I put up on my towns "buy nothing" facebook page and so far every single thing I posted someone wanted- it is so easy- I put it out on the step and they come pick it up- if there is a lot at one time I set up a table and people stop and pick up their items they wanted. I have not had to get a dumpster yet because I just have bagging up into big trash bags and put out 10 bags for the garbage pick up twice a week and also toss a couple in front of my neighbors houses on each side so I can get rid of like 40 bags each week between me and the 2 neighbors houses. For big things like her bed you can only put out one mattress for each pick up so that took 2 pick ups to get rid of. But there is stuff I have no idea what to do with- like things I know she treasured, and I just can't toss them out of give them away and I have NO idea what I am going to do with them!
So sorry for your loss, @aprilgail.
 
I’ve just started with all of this. Mom passed away three and a half weeks ago. She lived alone in our very large family home even though Dad passed five years ago and all of us kids are long gone. She was never sick until she was. Lost her balance leaning over to charge her phone, ER just to get checked out, bloodwork ran, more blood tests and they confirmed Multiple Myeloma (blood cancer). Five weeks later she was gone. Only one out of three of my siblings still live in the same state as Mom and she’s recovering from breast cancer treatments so this has fallen on me from 600 miles away. My other two siblings can’t be bothered, want nothing to do with clearing out the house and apparently will just wait for their share of the estate. I’m beyond overwhelmed, angry and every other emotion. I went up there as soon as my sister called and just got back home after spending six weeks there. I don’t even know where to start. She lived in a fairly rural area so donate/post for free resources I have here won’t be an option there. The house should have had a good clearing out when Dad passed but that never happened. I can’t imagine going through 60+ years of stuff and throwing out things that meant so much to Mom but it’s just not practical, financially or otherwise to move things here. Our youngest graduated college last year so DH and I have already started cleaning out our own house. I don’t understand how two of my siblings can so easily say they won’t deal with anything. I haven’t even had a minute to grieve with their nonsense and I’m due back up there in two weeks. I’m hoping to make some calls soon about dumpster rental, etc. and then fighting with the siblings to help pay for that. I’m just trying to focus on doing what has to be done so I don’t completely lose my mind. Sending good thoughts for others dealing with a similar situation.
 
I’ve just started with all of this. Mom passed away three and a half weeks ago. She lived alone in our very large family home even though Dad passed five years ago and all of us kids are long gone. She was never sick until she was. Lost her balance leaning over to charge her phone, ER just to get checked out, bloodwork ran, more blood tests and they confirmed Multiple Myeloma (blood cancer). Five weeks later she was gone. Only one out of three of my siblings still live in the same state as Mom and she’s recovering from breast cancer treatments so this has fallen on me from 600 miles away. My other two siblings can’t be bothered, want nothing to do with clearing out the house and apparently will just wait for their share of the estate. I’m beyond overwhelmed, angry and every other emotion. I went up there as soon as my sister called and just got back home after spending six weeks there. I don’t even know where to start. She lived in a fairly rural area so donate/post for free resources I have here won’t be an option there. The house should have had a good clearing out when Dad passed but that never happened. I can’t imagine going through 60+ years of stuff and throwing out things that meant so much to Mom but it’s just not practical, financially or otherwise to move things here. Our youngest graduated college last year so DH and I have already started cleaning out our own house. I don’t understand how two of my siblings can so easily say they won’t deal with anything. I haven’t even had a minute to grieve with their nonsense and I’m due back up there in two weeks. I’m hoping to make some calls soon about dumpster rental, etc. and then fighting with the siblings to help pay for that. I’m just trying to focus on doing what has to be done so I don’t completely lose my mind. Sending good thoughts for others dealing with a similar situation.
Do you have executor or power to make decisions? I think the first thing to do is get in writing from the siblings that they defer all decisions to you.

Give them set dates to come get things they might want, and you take out anything you want.

Then I would call an auction/estate company in the area and turn it over to them. They will pull all costs out of the sales and ... what you get out of it you get out of it ... but at least the work isn't on you. I know from family in more rural areas this is how they handle it.

I know someone here who the company said "we'll empty the house free of charge." She got nothing but didn't have to deal with emptying house. The company would sell what they could for their part of it.

Good luck, been there.
 

Thank you, those are all great points. My sister was named Executor but due to her health issues she's trying to get that changed to me. No idea what's involved in that process. I will certainly look into an estate company.
 
Swedish Death Cleaning. It's something of a fad among my friends right now and I have no idea if this is actually a thing in Sweden, but it meshes nicely with my mindset. What holds meaning to me does not necessarily to my kids so I'll do them a favor by weeding out things before it becomes a burden to them.

It was eye opening to watch both sets of my husband's grandparents. The paternal side passed away much sooner than the other. There was dementia involved so everything had to be examined carefully. We found a ton of cash tucked away in books and in random drawers. After watching us spend weeks cleaning out the house, the maternal side's grandparents went through all of their possessions, gave stuff away, sold a ton, and made sure all arrangements were in order. In a way, it's a wonderful gift.

We moved last year and held a huge garage sale before leaving. I was absolutely ruthless and kept bringing out more and more items once I realized there was no reason for us to spend $ to move it several hundred miles away where it wouldn't fit in with the new house. It was a ton of work but feels so good to know that I love/need everything in our new home.
 
Thank you, those are all great points. My sister was named Executor but due to her health issues she's trying to get that changed to me. No idea what's involved in that process. I will certainly look into an estate company.

I have an appt this week to close out probate for my Dad's estate. I was his personal representative. Even if you aren't named executor or PR, keep track of ALL your expenses related to closing the estate. Your cost to get there to clean out the house and your time doing so. Charge that back to the estate. You are entitled to it since you are doing the work your other siblings can't or won't. If all siblings were doing their fair share it would be different.
 
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Lorilori, I'm so sorry and I feel your pain! It was very helpful to me (I had years to process my siblings denial, not weeks like you) to do the enneagram personality inventory. (I listened to podcasts while traveling back and forth.) It really helped me to understand their seeming inability to deal with the "work" of it all and how I ended up doing it. Obviously you won't have time to do that now, but it might help you in the future. I learned that my personality goes to action trying to control the situation in times of stress, while siblings go one to denial and one to emotion. It became more clear to me why I was stuck with the work and it was easier to forgive. My understanding changed the way I dealt with them and I actually got more help from them.

My top hint is ... save EVERY expense receipt having to do with dissolving the estate and make sure those expenses get paid by the estate. I haven't done this since my costs have been absorbed slowly over years, but in your situation I would absolutely track all of your hours and expenses for dealing with the estate (travel, including food, etc.) and have the estate PAY the expenses AND possibly even your time. (My understanding is that your time can be paid, but I haven't done this so you'll have to check the rules on that.) This could be a very expensive time period for you. All those expenses should get paid BEFORE any assets are distributed. Do not allow yourself to just absorb the cost of this and end up with less of an inheritance than your siblings because of all the expenses you incurred. It feels icky to spend estate money, but I know now that I would have been less resentful when eventually splitting the estate equally if I hadn't incurred so much expense over the years of caring for my parents and dealing with their estate.

OOPs... I took so long writing this post that I see SC MInnie said the same thing more succinctly! I have to add I wasn't ever named anything in the estate. My parents had/have a trust and we are all trustees. Someone had/has to deal with it, so I did/do.

My mom is still living and now living near me so once we get the house in another state is sold, it will get easier but the responsibilities still continue. (Cute story ... I just got back from visiting her. She has a mosquito bite and was worrying about having this Monkey Pox she's hearing about on the news. I looked it up online and showed her some stuff I thought would reassure her at which point she said "Monkey Pox? I've never heard of that!" After losing one parent and two in-laws in the last few years I'm trying to remember to enjoy these moments!)
 
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Do you have executor or power to make decisions? I think the first thing to do is get in writing from the siblings that they defer all decisions to you.

Give them set dates to come get things they might want, and you take out anything you want.

Then I would call an auction/estate company in the area and turn it over to them. They will pull all costs out of the sales and ... what you get out of it you get out of it ... but at least the work isn't on you. I know from family in more rural areas this is how they handle it.

I know someone here who the company said "we'll empty the house free of charge." She got nothing but didn't have to deal with emptying house. The company would sell what they could for their part of it.

Good luck, been there.
There are companies or individuals that can do much of the work for you. When MIL died, we had two condos to clean out. For the one far from us, we pulled out what was needed to stage and sell the condo, and we gave the rest to her caretakers. We said they could keep it, sell it or dump it it just had to be out of the condo. One week later, it was cleaned out. One week after that the “staged” condo sold. For the closer condo, DH and I bought boxes, strapping tape and markers and had the siblings and grandchildren take their pick, pack it up, mark it, and we delivered it to them as we had a minivan. We hired our son and another young man to box up the leftovers, some going directly to garbage, some going to an auction. It took quite a while but it was done.

Also, DH was the executor for both his father and mother. When a friend became executor for his father DH told him that household/personal items are worth between $10-15k even for an estate worth a million or more. You can liquidate it and find it out the hard way or just take it on faith. Why? Because most people don’t want your leftovers. The minute you buy something it’s only worth pennies on the dollar. If it’s worth more, it will still take considerable time and effort to find a willing buyer, cutting into the profits. Exceptions for cars, jewelry, etc.
 
I’ve just started with all of this. Mom passed away three and a half weeks ago. She lived alone in our very large family home even though Dad passed five years ago and all of us kids are long gone. She was never sick until she was. Lost her balance leaning over to charge her phone, ER just to get checked out, bloodwork ran, more blood tests and they confirmed Multiple Myeloma (blood cancer). Five weeks later she was gone. Only one out of three of my siblings still live in the same state as Mom and she’s recovering from breast cancer treatments so this has fallen on me from 600 miles away. My other two siblings can’t be bothered, want nothing to do with clearing out the house and apparently will just wait for their share of the estate. I’m beyond overwhelmed, angry and every other emotion. I went up there as soon as my sister called and just got back home after spending six weeks there. I don’t even know where to start. She lived in a fairly rural area so donate/post for free resources I have here won’t be an option there. The house should have had a good clearing out when Dad passed but that never happened. I can’t imagine going through 60+ years of stuff and throwing out things that meant so much to Mom but it’s just not practical, financially or otherwise to move things here. Our youngest graduated college last year so DH and I have already started cleaning out our own house. I don’t understand how two of my siblings can so easily say they won’t deal with anything. I haven’t even had a minute to grieve with their nonsense and I’m due back up there in two weeks. I’m hoping to make some calls soon about dumpster rental, etc. and then fighting with the siblings to help pay for that. I’m just trying to focus on doing what has to be done so I don’t completely lose my mind. Sending good thoughts for others dealing with a similar situation.

If you become the executor (or if not, have your sibling who is lead this meeting), have a Zoom/Google chat with your siblings. Tell them you will be creating a Google Doc for all of the expenses you are incurring on behalf of the estate, and that you all agree that these are appropriate and will be paid back prior to the splitting of the estate's final assets. Then, put that in an email and have them send back their written concurrence. In your expenses, include all travel to and from the estate. Inform siblings in advance of all major costs by email and give them a period to approve/dispute/do it themselves for free before you incur the expenses.
 
The process of clearing out a family home is way more expensive and demands more effort than we thought. Kids finished school and moved to the city place while I/we are still trying to transition and have completely filled two giant dumpsters and there is still a house full of stuff, most of it will go to people we know who can use upgrades but most of it was put away ages ago never to be seen again. Not hoarders, just shocked how much can be neatly collected in blue bins and tucked into crawl spaces, closets, cabinets etc. like ancient golf clubs that were scooped up by a kid as soon as they hit the curb, dust and all.

Three things I learned:

First, it seems moving triggers the same spell as the Lestrange vault because every time we remove a thing it seems like more stuff shows up behind it. So you look at, say, a cabinet and think, OK that's one thing, but no, it's not singular. That old cabinet is full of old files & junk and I am compelled to review this junk because random photos and such pop up so one cabinet is at least hour of time and a giant pail of garbage, plus a pile of things I want to keep (that will probably go into a box to be thrown out in another decade LOL kidding, not kidding)

Second, rule for first step applies to things that need to be fixed, adjusted or managed. Everywhere I look is a thing that needs attention, must be some kind of blindness that happens when you live in a place a long time, now the stress is reduced by each task being done but yikes, it's a lot.

Third, shocked how expensive dumpsters are and associated costs in general. Now I get why people have giant "Moving Sale" events because long distance prices are outrageous and enough to make me reconsider many things I never thought I'd give up because it's just such a nuisance.

Not really sure what else we will discover as we move through the process towards our age in place home, I'm sure there is a lot I don't know yet. One thing is true though, I will not get massive heavy stuff because getting rid of it is an ordeal. I can't even imagine how hard this must be for a family that needs to move abruptly or for adult children who need to clean out their parents stuff when they move into a facility of some kind, must be positively miserable.
When it was time to clear out our parents' home, we reluctantly paid for the big dumpster, cleared off our weekend schedule, brought some friends over, and said, "OK, let's get this done!" About 2 months and 6 dumpsters later, the place was finally empty, and we vowed we would not make our kids face the same thing when we're gone!
 
My dad passed away a few months ago, and I had to clear his apartment out. I read many of these posts with a heavy heart, but with much gratitude to find similar sentiments of sadness, loss and anger. I, too, went through (and am still going through) a period of self-decluttering because of my experience - at times it really felt like a nightmare. It definitely makes me rethink the stuff that I keep around the house.
 
My mum passed away last week and I know I have all this to come. My dad died nearly 30 years ago but he and mum moved into the house around than 70 years ago. Mum was never a hoarder but and to a large extent, not a keeper of stuff but there's a lifetime of memories. I am not looking forward to the next few weeks.
 
My DH's Dad moved in with us in 2005. We sold his house and had to clean out and sell off a house full plus multiple barns/sheds. He was a borderline hoarder.

Fast forward a few years later and he moved into a rental house near us. Somehow in a couple of years he packed it full plus a huge shed. We ended up moving out of state and he decided to move, too. Packed about half and git rid of the rest.

Two years later he passed away and we had a third house and standalone garage to do it AGAIN.

JUNK JUNK AND MORE JUNK. PSA to hoarders - please remember that your loved ones will have to deal with it when you are gone. :(


Sadly, this must be a gene because my DH and his sis have it. My 10 DD is showing signs. Arrgghhh! Lol
Ugh I'm trying to do this now. My husband and I have lived in the same house for over 30 years. I'm having a hard enough time trying to whittle things down, but my husband is insisting that the "kids" and grandkids will want all of these things. I am just determined not to leave all of this stuff for them to deal with.
 
Sending warm thoughts to those doing this or having had to deal with this while grieving.

Sounds to me like a business helping someone coordinate & dig through stuff would be an amazing small business for college graduates, stay at home mom's & anyone who has time. I have family but their time is limited and I physically just can't by myself so it's taking so much longer than it should, I would love a helper & it seems I'm not alone.
 
Oh my gosh, I can’t believe how many of us have lost a parent in the last few months. And dealing with emptying homes on top of grieving. At least we know there are others here that understand when we need emotional support or to vent. Hugs to all…. :grouphug:
 
Thank you all for your kind words and stories. Mom’s passing was so unexpected and she never talked about the what-ifs, even after Dad died. I sat alone with her in the hospital for five weeks as she slowly faded away. I’m still trying to process all that so having to deal with the reality of the house is so overwhelming. I do know however that once I get through this, DH and I will do whatever is necessary to ensure our children never have to deal with this. Thank you for the suggestions on estate sales, keeping track of expenses, etc. Sincere condolences to each of you.
 
All I can say is that it is incredible how possessions multiply and accumulate. My mother was in her house since I was born well over 50 years ago, and when she passed the amount of stuff was just incredible. The caregivers and, I think, my mother had neatened up the house quite a bit but there was just so much packed away into closets and nooks and crannies that it was incredible--plus the garage.

In my own home, where my late husband and I lived for about 20 years before he passed about 18 months ago, I was also amazed by how much stuff was stashed away. I have easily given away/disposed of 40-50 boxes of things, not even including clothes which I don't count in the "clutter" category. Some of these were things, such as a huge collection of books in boxes, that I favored giving away long ago but my husband wanted to keep.

Still--and my house is hardly huge at about 2,000 square feet--I look around , especially in the garage, and see so much stuff that I haven't used in many years. It's the "maybe I'll use that someday" thinking that allows so much to pile up. I need to take another run at all that stuff soon. I may move to a smaller place in the next few years and don't want this hanging over me. Just a basic move is stress enough without having an epic decluttering at the same time.

The lesson is it really takes ongoing diligence and discipline to stop things from accumulating. No matter who has to deal with it--you or your family after you are gone--it can otherwise be overwhelming. Basically, if I haven't used it in a year, it will need to go.
 
I'm currently contemplating how to time the THIRD dumpster we will need to get rid of all the stuff in bedrooms & basement storage. The basement is quite the grab bag of oddball gifts I never wanted but felt I needed to keep over guilt. There was an electric chicken rotisserie that was unopened for maybe 15 years, back when they were the in thing like air dryers are now. I also noticed all sorts of things like ugly espresso cups and giant crystal picture frames.

Mental note to self to remember that gift cards are probably better than junk people can't bring themselves to throw away.

Not sure if I do it in late summer or over the holidays, it's all so time consuming.
 

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