Children at DVC

[ClarabelleCow]

DSNY FN - you just don't get it! But I did read another of your posts, did you really charge your family 14.00 per point to rent your points? Is that Canadian or US?

 

[LisaR]

Originally posted by DSNY FN
So by letting my kids play at and under my table is a big and if my kids are playing at my table and you don't care for it then don't watch them I am not concerned with what others are doing at their tables it is after all thier family and their vacationjust like kids crying etc in the rooms it happens and that is it ids are not robots we can't controll everything they do all the time and sometimes they act up you try and help them through it and hope they remember for the next time.

And there it is in the nutshell. You do NOT care if your kids disrupt the other people in a restaurant because it is your vacation, afterall. Entitlement at its finest.

Lisa

 

[Sammie]

Originally posted by Desperado
Do you remember what I was wearing that day? I sure taught my wife a lesson didn't I? Why didn't you feed my kid anyway?

That was a bad day anyway, I left the pool and forgot my confederate flag towel. Do you have it? Do you still have my kid? Hope my kid has the towel, I'd like to find them both.

It was funny until you included the "confederate flag" remark. That could have been left out.

As to children who are allowed to play under the table. All I can say is they are going to have a very hard time at school during lunch. I would break them of this habit very soon.

 

[Pinnie]

Desperado,

Thank you so much for putting a smile on this tired kindergarten teacher's face this Monday!

I have been a teacher for almost 28 years and let me tell you, that the parenting style that a poster has talked about is getting to be the norm and it scares the crackers out of me.

All I have to say is; "If you can't control them at 3, 4 or 5, don't be surprised when you can't control them as teenagers!"

pin

 

[wilderness01]

Desperado~

Thanks for the giant laugh. Your posts were soooooooooooo funny!

I agree that there needs to be way more consideration. Dsny FN you really are just kidding right? I can't believe anyone would allow their kids to act like that in a restaurant, whether it be a "kid friendly" place or not. Yes when kids don't sit and behave while at a restaurant it is considered very rude. My littlest was our biggest challenge for EVERYTHING. He was just awful. Stopped napping at 1 as well so many times he was overtired. Other times he was just strong willed. Like I posted before we rarely went out until he could behave. It wasn't fair to anyone. All parents know the cause and effect of dropping an item with a 1 year old. Although the parent might think it is just adorable, as I did with our first child, it is not so cute while in a restaurant. Save the games for at home when it stays cute and not annoying. I have never looked down my nose at anyone's child misbehaving but I didn't and still don't look the other way when our children are misbehaving. I would never make one of our kid's sit there and scream. One or all of us would leave so the other patrons could still enjoy themselves. A little consideration really goes a long way. I guess one can call me a controlling parent for my young children. But isn't that my job? I am not there to be their friend or for them to even like me while they are younger and being taught. For this, they will thank me one day. I thought my mother was the meanest person around while growing up. You know what? She was just doing her job and a great one she did with me and my sibling. I thank her for doing what needed to be done. She is my best friend now. I never thought as a kid I would ever say that. I now understand what she meant by "it is harder to do the right thing and discipline you". It would be much easier to just look the other way and let it go. I'm so glad she didn't!

P.S. My kids are still young enough that they do like me and I am their "best" friend as they say. We haven't hit the teenage years though. That might be another story. But by then, hopefully the pattern has been set with the message being clear who is in charge and who is not!

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

I have seen lots of people who try to controll the kids and make them sit there while the parents eat after the kids are done and the kids get mad and scream and cry ya that is a great thing isn't it.

They can get as mad as they want and scream as loudly as they want, and they will hear about it when we go outside for an attitude adjustment. Then we come back in and enjoy the rest of the dinner. Simple, easy and it shows the little one who is in charge. My mother had a wonderful way to convince my brother and sister that sitting still was a good thing. She gave them a choice, either sit still now or you will not be able to sit for awhile.
The opted to sit still.
I really don't care where you eat, but the ones you mentioned are not inexpensive, why do you think it ok to disrupt someone elses dinner because you think your children's behaviour is ok?
That is totally inconsiderate, and dropping food on the floor is ok?
I guess if you aren't the one cleaning it, it is fine. Hopefully no one slips on your darling's droppings. And hopefully, some server won't trip and drop a tray of hot food on your child.
Your idea of outspoken children is one thing, but, madam, you are raising borish brats.

 

[lenshanem]

Yikes! I guessed I read over the confederate joke. Yes, that could have been left out!

EDIT - I went back and read the post. Coming from the south I find that purely insulting. So because these people were bad they were automatically southerns?!? UH?!? Please explain your comment.

 

[Nick@ VB+OKW]

Originally posted by Pinnie
"If you can't control them at 3, 4 or 5, don't be surprised when you can't control them as teenagers!"

Excellent post Pinnie..........Cindy has been a H.S. teacher for 27 years and agrees with you.

 

[Desperado]

Originally posted by Sammie
It was funny until you included the "confederate flag" remark. That could have been left out.

Originally posted by lenshanem
Yikes! I guessed I read over the confederate joke. Yes, that could have been left out!

You mean you two really have confederate flag beach towels you take to DVC and your more worried about those being returned than you are knowing where your children are? Did you read the part about the wife with "A very big belly and a thick Jersey accent..."?????

If that isn't political correctness gone amuck, I don't know what is. Give me a break....

 

[borncinderella]

If you can't control them at 3, 4, and 5, don't expect to control them as teenagers!

Unfortunately, that is when the police usually become involved. More unfortunately, where I live, the police are so bombarded with trying to do delayed teenage parenting, they don't care, either. This is all really very sad.

 

[Nick@ VB+OKW]

Originally posted by borncinderella
Unfortunately, that is when the police usually become involved.

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[Sammie]

Originally posted by Desperado
You mean you two really have confederate flag beach towels you take to DVC and your more worried about those being returned than you are knowing where your children are? Did you read the part about the wife with "A very big belly and a thick Jersey accent..."?????

If that isn't political correctness gone amuck, I don't know what is. Give me a break....

No I do not own a flag towel, all of mine are Disney. However I don't find humor in "profiling". Maybe I misunderstood your intent.

 

[Desperado]

Originally posted by lenshanem
EDIT - I went back and read the post. Coming from the south I find that purely insulting. So because these people were bad they were automatically southerns?!? UH?!? Please explain your comment.

What hogwash. I'm not wasting time explaining anything in those silly satirical nonsensical posts, those imbiciles described could be anybody, and I did it in first person describing myself!!!! And your claiming to be insulted??!!!

Instead of explaining what is obviously nonsense and equally attacking north (bald head and thick Jersey accent, and who says a confederate beach towel has to mean it's a southerner) why don't we pause and spend the time allowing a couple of you a few moments to get a grip.

 

[lenshanem]

You mean you two really have confederate flag beach towels you take to DVC and your more worried about those being returned than you are knowing where your children are?

I'm sorry, I don't understand that question. I'm assuming it is a joke, but really I don't get it! LOL

Did you read the part about the wife with "A very big belly and a thick Jersey accent..."????? If that isn't political correctness gone amuck, I don't know what is.

I don't see how you can compare the two? How does being from New Jersey and having a very big belly have to do with being politically incorrect? Having an accent and a big belly... Couldn't that be from anywhere? LOL Guessing a family is from the south cause they let their kid misbehave is not.

Southerns even teach their kids to say please, thank you, no sir, yes mam, etc. I don't think Northerns even do the sir thing.

Give me a break....

OK.

 

[jaysue]

Desperado, curb your horse!

This post is getting out of hand

 

[maburke]

I just have a favor to ask you all. Before you judge the parents, like:

"As for kids having meltdowns, I ALWAYS think the parents are responsible for that."

please consider the possibility that the kids, like mine, have a disability that makes them more difficult to understand and control in new situations. My boys have autism, and often, these kids cannot communicate or understand the way other kids do. Basic rules, especially social graces, can be very difficult, if not impossible, for these kids to learn. And they can have obsessive/compulsive tendencies that make the slightest change in routine difficult, and vacations in new places can result in complete meltdowns simply because they are unpredictable. (THAT'S why WE bought into DVC -- now it's "home", so the kids are getting used to it.)

One of my sons (5 years old) just couldn't recover from waking up from his nap in the Norway restaurant, and not knowing where he was. He cried and cried (he cannot talk). When I took him out into the courtyard to try to calm him down, a woman walked by and said, "There is something WRONG with that child." I swallowed my pain and tried to patiently describe that there IS something wrong with my child.

So please, before you judge, or do or say something that could be hurtful to parents, try to imagine that maybe it's NOT their fault. Because one of the hardest things about this very difficult life is having other people judge me when they know nothing about my world.

Thanks, and to those of you who have people compliment you on your children, relish it.

 

[Nick@ VB+OKW]

Originally posted by lenshanem
Having an accent and a big belly... Couldn't that be from anywhere?

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[Desperado]

Originally posted by lenshanem
.....Couldn't that be from anywhere?

Exactly! I'll let you in on a little secret. Up north they also have rednecks who have confederate flag beach towels who live no where near the south. Shhhhhhhh. Don't tell. Also, guess what. Southerners generally don't have Jersey accents. Enough baloney. Enjoy the joke if you like it, ignore it if you don't.

By the way, I'm a southerner with probably stronger souther ties and a more rich southern history through the civil war than many of you have, I don't have to take any grief off another southerner. Good day.

 

[OneMoreTry]

Originally posted by maburke
please consider the possibility that the kids, like mine, have a disability that makes them more difficult to understand and control in new situations. My boys have autism, and often, these kids cannot communicate.

Two more cents before the thread is shut down.

This is the reason I think that Disney should NOT discriminate against those with kids. And I think we should all learn to NOT judge. People with disabled kids should not have to live in caves, and the little we can do to help one another can really help the pain of those who struggle with these things.

 

[Desperado]

Originally posted by maburke
I just have a favor to ask you all. Before you judge the parents, like:

"As for kids having meltdowns, I ALWAYS think the parents are responsible for that."

please consider the possibility that the kids, like mine, have a disability that makes them more difficult to understand and control in new situations. My boys have autism, and often, these kids cannot communicate or understand the way other kids do. Basic rules, especially social graces, can be very difficult, if not impossible, for these kids to learn. And they can have obsessive/compulsive tendencies that make the slightest change in routine difficult, and vacations in new places can result in complete meltdowns simply because they are unpredictable. (THAT'S why WE bought into DVC -- now it's "home", so the kids are getting used to it.)

One of my sons (5 years old) just couldn't recover from waking up from his nap in the Norway restaurant, and not knowing where he was. He cried and cried (he cannot talk). When I took him out into the courtyard to try to calm him down, a woman walked by and said, "There is something WRONG with that child." I swallowed my pain and tried to patiently describe that there IS something wrong with my child.

So please, before you judge, or do or say something that could be hurtful to parents, try to imagine that maybe it's NOT their fault. Because one of the hardest things about this very difficult life is having other people judge me when they know nothing about my world.

Thanks, and to those of you who have people compliment you on your children, relish it.

Agreed, this is an entirely different situation. As for the statement ""As for kids having meltdowns, I ALWAYS think the parents are responsible for that." - I think it's nonsense. With all the overstimulation, exhaustion, commotion, travel, little one's schedule changes, and disrupted sleep patterns, the Disney touch of trying to sell kids something at every turn, at thier eye level at a big $$$, WDW is a prime place for any little ones to have a melt down, mine certainly have. When they do, you take them out of the restaraunt and do your best to sooth them, just like you described.

Best of whishes and prayers in working with your children. Thank you for reminding us how we are lucky. My son's crying right now, I'm going to go see what he needs.