Children at DVC

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Originally posted by LisaR
Here you say you ask people around you if it is okay.

QUOTE]Originally posted by DSNY FN
I know my 1 year old can be really loud he is a little ham and loves to play it up for people and the carachters when he sees them. He also likes to throw his food around when he gets to playing. My 3 year old well almost 3 anyhow she likes to crawl under the table and doesn't like to sit still I have no problem with that if she is playing around our table no big deal. We do eep her from roaming to other tables but if she wants to play around our table that is fine if we are still eating and she is done no big deal it makes me laugh to see people that scowl at the kids playing or point and whisper it makes you want to send the kids over to them and ask them if they have a problem come on folks they are kids and they are at the one place in the world that turns us all into kids.


This is from your earlier post. You say that basically it makes you laugh when your kids are disturbing the other guests around you. Which one is it?


Obviously we need to agree that we disagree on what is appropriate discipline/behavior in public. I will continue to teach my kids to be respectful individuals and that there is a time and place for everything. Because they are at WDW does not mean they have the right to throw their manners out the door. It doesn't mean because they are tired from being at parks all day that they have a right to throw food, play under tables, etc. It means that as a parent, I need to use common sense and recognize that eating out after 10 hours at the parks might not be in anyones best interest.

Lisa
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Before one can throw manners out the door, one must have them to begin with. ;)

ITA with your excellent post.
 
Desperado, LOL!:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
You forgot to mention how you feel about being quiet in the rooms!

Oh, just saw your edit. The best!!!!:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
 
Originally posted by Kelly Nelly
I really do not think that WDW can only be for one certain type of person.

I dislike rude kids just as much as you do. It irks me when I put so much time and effort into teaching my kids how to behave and others are too lazy or inconsiderate to do the same. (It's a lot of work!) I've seen a lot of people at WDW I wish weren't there.

BUT I don't think the answer is to ban people from here and there -- at least not at Disney World. I agree that Disney World is not "for one certain type of person." And that includes children, adults and, unfortunately, polite people. So your quote above can be used for both sides of the argument. That's why I don't think WDW should start trying to separate people based on their preferences. It would be quite a slippery slope. (They do provide some children-free experiences, don't they?)

When I get irked enough, I'll say something. If I don't want kids and crowds, I go to an isolated beach or to the mountains. There are lots of upscale resorts for those times where "no kids are allowed" and rudeness is controlled. But WDW is for everyone!

I'm sorry if I came across as harsh or obnoxious. If there's something I need to edit out of my post, let me know -- please -- I'll be glad to do it.

Peace?
 

Hey from NC also:wave:

As for kids at DVC resorts we have two DD is 11 DS is 9. They love the DVC resorts. We make them behave and remind them there are others around. We like others who have posted here get the stares from folks we sit near only to have them comment on how well behaved our kids are.
Now mind you, they are still kids and not perfect by any means, but they distinguish the difference in wrong and right. They know if they do wrong they may have to deal with the consequences.

Children need to behave no matter where they are staying, whether its at Motel 6 or a DVC resort. It boils down to how the parents deal with them IMHO. We know folks who have kids that they will not make mind and we will not go out with them. Kids need discipline. What form or fashion again depends on the kid and the parents.

I have heard this arguement before. Again, respecting the fact that other people are around, should warrant how kids AND adults act.
 
After reading desperados pool behavior post. I remembered last summer at AKL.There was a very cute little girl about 6 at the pool. Well she was cute for about 5 minutes. I was with a very large group we ourselves had about 12 little ones in the pool. Well this kid was with us the entire day. Cute as all heck little french braids, someone had taken the time to braid her hair, So I assumed she had a parent somewhere. She was one of the freshest kids I have ever seen, first pushing the little ones (under) She then graduated to climbing on my BIL's back in the water. She was asked to stop over and over to no avail. Then she was splashing adults in the face and laughing. There was never a parent to be seen. Honestly this was hours. Long after we had eaten lunch and come back she was still there. It got to the point that she splashed my Ill Aunt in the face on purpose, and I happened to see it, I went right up and said. OK enough where are your parents? I don't have to tell you your not my mother. I alerted the lifeguard who spoke to her she raspberried him. And went across the pool to annoy someone else/ When we packed up at about 4. The guy next to my BIl's chair called her over. He had been sitting the entire time. Mom shows up w/bags and says did so and so eat he says no. She says why? He responds because I told you I was sleeeping today not watching her. She has been playing with that nice family all day.:eek: They were horrible people. I must add we were very vocal on our chairs about this childs behavior and he just sat there and said nor did nothing.
 
Originally posted by twinmomplus2new
After reading desperados pool behavior post. I remembered last summer at AKL.There was a very cute little girl about 6 at the pool. Well she was cute for about 5 minutes. I was with a very large group we ourselves had about 12 little ones in the pool. Well this kid was with us the entire day. Cute as all heck little french braids, someone had taken the time to braid her hair, So I assumed she had a parent somewhere. She was one of the freshest kids I have ever seen, first pushing the little ones (under) She then graduated to climbing on my BIL's back in the water. She was asked to stop over and over to no avail. Then she was splashing adults in the face and laughing. There was never a parent to be seen. Honestly this was hours. Long after we had eaten lunch and come back she was still there. It got to the point that she splashed my Ill Aunt in the face on purpose, and I happened to see it, I went right up and said. OK enough where are your parents? I don't have to tell you your not my mother. I alerted the lifeguard who spoke to her she raspberried him. And went across the pool to annoy someone else/ When we packed up at about 4. The guy next to my BIl's chair called her over. He had been sitting the entire time. Mom shows up w/bags and says did so and so eat he says no. She says why? He responds because I told you I was sleeeping today not watching her. She has been playing with that nice family all day.:eek: They were horrible people. I must add we were very vocal on our chairs about this childs behavior and he just sat there and said nor did nothing.
Do you remember what I was wearing that day? I sure taught my wife a lesson didn't I? Why didn't you feed my kid anyway?

That was a bad day anyway, I left the pool and forgot my confederate flag towel. Do you have it? Do you still have my kid? Hope my kid has the towel, I'd like to find them both.
 
Balding on top? fringe on the sides? A very big belly and a thick Jersey accent... Was it you?;)

You jest about lunch, but we did say are we supposed to feed her? and my BIl said no way once you feed her she will never leave.
 
Originally posted by twinmomplus2new
Balding on top? fringe on the sides? A very big belly and a thick Jersey accent... Was it you?;)
No, that's my wife. I was the skinny guy with the pony tail, tatoo, and large stain on my muscle shirt. Gimme back my towel, will ya.
 
Oh yes, WDW. That magical place where children are free to do as they please and parents can stop being parents. You know, if they come "visiting" my table, I may accidently spill ice water all over the poor little waif, I'm such a klutz.
 
You are TOO funny, you wicked, wicked man!!!

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Originally posted by Nick@ VB+OKW
I think 98% of DVC members have no problem with chidren at DVC resorts. I think the problem is with the PARENTS who allow the children to miss-behave and look the other way.

DSNY FN
Thanks for confirming my post above.
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Chuck S - I'll have to remember that: water doesn't stain, but could be a chilly reminder to behave in public.

Desperado: Classic! It's posts like yours that make me wish there was a DVC Post Hall of Fame.

To all of you who try to discipline your children: thank you. DW and I have made it out the other side - DS is 23 and on his own - but we do remember what it was like; and we only had one. However, we were always very concerned how we were impacting those around us, be it in a theatre, restaurant, pool - or any public place. I remember the meals where a meltdown caused us to pay for things we didn't eat - or ate cold out of a styrofoam box; pool visits ended quickly and movies missed. Now there weren't THAT many; DS was actually a good kid - but on those times when he wasn't, we took great pains not to disturb others. Now he's 23, and a nice guy - so there is a light at the end of the tunnel; to those who try to discipline - and not give up - thanks, and good luck.
 
(They do provide some children-free experiences, don't they?)

Very few. A few clubs at PI are over 21, but nightclubs aren't my idea of an "adult" experience. I believe the spas may be adults only, and golf courses may have a minimum age that forbids younger children (not sure about that, many courses do - or at least make your three year old have his own bag of clubs). If I were running the show I'd make V&As and a restaurant over in the Epcot resort area child free. Plenty of dining experiences for families, I think it would be nice to be able to put my kids in a kids club and be guarenteed I won't have to listen to someone else's kid whine. (I realize this is no guarentee of good behavior for the other ADULTS in the restaurant).

Now, I'm not a child snob. Love my own little darlin's and think Disney should be mostly for families. But I also enjoy time away from my little darlin's -- and I don't think much worse can go wrong with an evening out than to pay for a sitter so you can enjoy a little adult time, only to get seated next to a four year old who whines through dinner.

DCL actually does a great job of providing areas for adults, families and kids.

I think 98% of DVC members have no problem with chidren at DVC resorts. I think the problem is with the PARENTS who allow the children to miss-behave and look the other way.

98% of DVC members have no problem with well behaved (or at least reasonably behaved - we don't expect perfection) children. 98% of parents raise well behaved children(or reasonably behaved - they occationally melt down, or turn into sullen teenagers, or whatever). Most people have problems with both ends (although the childless aren't going to notice the 2% of adults who think their world should be child free and we all have to put up with the prodigies of the 2% who shouldn't be trusted to raise goldfish).
 
So by letting my kids play at and under my table is a big problem for people well guess what if it helps keep them quiet and not yelling and screamin and crying is that a bad thing I think not. I have seen lots of people who try to controll the kids and make them sit there while the parents eat after the kids are done and the kids get mad and scream and cry ya that is a great thing isn't it. My kids do not leave our table to go visit other tables and talk to others but others will talk to them no harm no foul hey I could tell people to stop talking to my kids does that do anything no not really it helps them become more social and to learn that not everyone in the world is a child craving psycho like the media tends to portray. We do not take the kids to places like California Grill or V&A places like that we go to Chrystal palace and Chef Mickeys and 50's prime time etc all the places where kids can be loud and it is acceptable. As for my son throwing stuff on the floor well he is 1 and it is a game to him he throws it and if you pick it up and put it where he can reach it he will do it again he isn't throwing it across the restaurant or at anyone etc. Once he does this he loses the plate cup etc and napkins he loves the big green napkins at Chef Mickeys anyway to each their own and if my kids are playing at my table and you don't care for it then don't watch them I am not concerned with what others are doing at their tables it is after all thier family and their vacationjust like kids crying etc in the rooms it happens and that is it ids are not robots we can't controll everything they do all the time and sometimes they act up you try and help them through it and hope they remember for the next time.
 
Yes, I think alot of the key is to pick kid friendly restaurants. We visit Sci-Fi, Chef Mickey's, 50's Prime Time, etc. Mostly, we do characters meals for our PSs.
We made the mistake of eating at Canada at Christmas as part of the Processional Package. I think my meal lasted about 15 minutes before I had to leave with my then 2 1/2 year old while the rest stayed and ate.
For my next two trips every restaurant planned is something I think my kids will find some amusement in enough to keep their interest for us to eat. I ALWAYS look at the menu before we sit down so we can order with the drink order, too.

I however don't have attitude or look disdainly at someone if their child is crying or having a meltdown or whatver.... I think that parent is having enough stress at that moment to add a nasty glare into the mix. Politeness can go both ways.
 
All I can say is, that is why we bought DVC -- so that we can retire to our room and cook our dinner and spread out to let the kids run around at the end of the day when they are tired!

Or are we just avoiding the misbehavin' masses at dinner . . .? LOL ;)
 
Desperado...thanks for the great posts...you made my night!

Twinsmom...your story about the little girl at the AKL pool is scary! Sounds like a spoiled rotten man for a father, too.
 
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