Chic Fil A helping out

[Christine]

What Mr. Cathy ( he started Chick-fil-A) said was that he believed in.. was traditional marriage...his thoughts on what traditional marriage is for him. he stated that this was his personal and religious belief. Here in the US we have the right to freedom of religion, personal beliefs without persecution. We have the right to believe in or not believe in something... we can choose here in the United States. So whether you agree or not... its his right. That's what the 1st amendment states " Prohibits impeding the free exercise of religion"

Marriage is about 2 people who love each other and commit to that.. So for me that's the definition traditional marriage. By the way, I am woman married to the man of my dreams.. I hope everyone can find the person of their dreams.

Just because someone doesn't believe like you do ... Doesn't mean that they are wrong.. They just believe differently than you... WE all should be more accepting of each other. With what has been happening here and a across the world.. Maybe we should band together and stop worrying about what consenting adults do behind closed doors, and put our energy into protecting each other. We need to focus on child hunger, homeless families, child abuse, domestic violence, the environment, terrorism both here and a broad, the list goes on and on.

It all boils down to respect... If I respect your point of view ... in turn you should respect mine... I am not saying we have to agree but mutual respect will go along way.

For me and my family, We support whoever and whatever makes you happy................Love who you Love........be You...

Peace, Love and Pixie Dust

As I said above, I think most people respect the different viewpoints (although I'm probably being generous there). What got CFA in trouble was taking it a step further and donating significant funds to causes that would stop what OTHERS believed in. That's where most of the outrage came from--not just from Mr. Cathy's beliefs, which I agree, he is totally entitled to and, while I disagree with him on that, I get why he feels that way and I am happy to eat his chicken and respect his beliefs. I don't like to hear about people with money (power) influencing others' rights. Now, it seems that CFA has stepped away from doing that, probably in efforts to honor all of their customers, and that's a good thing.

 

[IndyRnRfan]

What Mr. Cathy ( he started Chick-fil-A) said was that he believed in.. was traditional marriage...his thoughts on what traditional marriage is for him. he stated that this was his personal and religious belief. Here in the US we have the right to freedom of religion, personal beliefs without persecution. We have the right to believe in or not believe in something... we can choose here in the United States. So whether you agree or not... its his right. That's what the 1st amendment states " Prohibits impeding the free exercise of religion"

Marriage is about 2 people who love each other and commit to that.. So for me that's the definition traditional marriage. By the way, I am woman married to the man of my dreams.. I hope everyone can find the person of their dreams.

Just because someone doesn't believe like you do ... Doesn't mean that they are wrong.. They just believe differently than you... WE all should be more accepting of each other. With what has been happening here and a across the world.. Maybe we should band together and stop worrying about what consenting adults do behind closed doors, and put our energy into protecting each other. We need to focus on child hunger, homeless families, child abuse, domestic violence, the environment, terrorism both here and a broad, the list goes on and on.

It all boils down to respect... If I respect your point of view ... in turn you should respect mine... I am not saying we have to agree but mutual respect will go along way.

For me and my family, We support whoever and whatever makes you happy................Love who you Love........be You...

Peace, Love and Pixie Dust

You said that very well. My wife and I agree with you. The problem we have is those that think everyone should agree with this or that and if they don't then they are a bigot, racist, anti this or that and we just shake our heads at the stupidity of those. They want acceptance and tolerance as long as you agree with their views and ideology. That's not what this country is about.

 

[DanceswithDisney]

Truett Cathy started CFA, he passed away. Dan said what he did.

 

[Kimberlyann11]

You are right but the owners still have to abide by guidelines set forth from corporate. If corporate didn't want them donating(which I think would be bad to recant) they would not be able to. If they did it without approval they run the risk of losing their business.

PP on page 50 stated that the individual franchise owners, whom she knows personally, did this independently and did not need approval from corporate. I have no reason to question her.

And of course corporate wouldn't penalize them - could you imagine the storm that would hit. I'm sure they don't mind two independent owners donating their own time and resources.

 

[gottaluvPluto]

Like what? I'm honestly curious. I'm assuming these are the individual franchise owners and not the company itself. And I'm assuming if they commit to helping all families in some way, they're not just going to leave out the LGBT ones. That would be terrible press for them.

Press? The press is not involved and never would be. The owners do it because they believe in helping people. They have given jobs, bought food/gave food, paid utility bills, helped with rent.........

Can you imagine someone going to the press and saying Chic-fil-A didn't help pay my rent this month, or helped with my utility bill?

The owners know the lifestyle of the people because the families wanted them to know. HIPPA laws prevent us from saying up front anything about the people in need, but it seems the LGBT want them to know.

People tend to not look at the entire picture and only see half of something or what they want to see.

 

[IndyRnRfan]

PP on page 50 stated that the individual franchise owners, whom she knows personally, did this independently and did not need approval from corporate. I have no reason to question her.

And of course corporate wouldn't penalize them - could you imagine the storm that would hit. I'm sure they don't mind two independent owners donating their own time and resources.

Ok. I wasn't saying they needed approval if that's what it sounded like. Sorry for the misconception. I was just saying franchise owners still need to abide by corporate policy which in this case doesn't mind their owners donating their time and resources in a situation like this. I'm sure the owners know when they need corporate approval and when not. I agree with you, could you imagine the backlash if they didn't approve which I could not see them doing that.

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

 

[Hrhpd]

I am a large supporter of LGBT rights. I am also a large supporter of respecting people whose views may make me cringe. Everyone is allowed their point of view as long as their actions don't hurt others.

Cathy's views were his and he was entitled to him. For me, the decision not to eat there back during the firestorm stemmed from taking his views and putting them in hurtful action. He used corporate funds to support very controversial groups, some of them labled dangerous hate groups. Since corporate funds were being used, I didn't want a single penny of my money to contribute to profits of the corporation, profits that would be partially be used to fund named hate groups.

I also believe in people's ability to evolve. There have been several interviews written by LGBT journalists praising Cathy's willingness to listen and learn.

No one will ever change his views and that is ok because he is entitled to his views. But he has made significant changes to the groups his company funds. I am actually quite impressed with his willingness to listen and compromise. That doesn't happen often. The company still doesn't support LGBT rights. The company is entitled to that. The important thing is that they are no longer heavily funding hate groups that hurt the LGBT community. It's a good start. And I will support any company that is trying. I am not going to go out of my way to eat there, but if I am with a group of people that want to eat there, I am not going to refuse.

I haven't seen Chik-Fil-A take credit for what these two wonderful franchise owners did on their own. It is strictly people on Facebook making those claims.

 

[Patch'sD]

With about 39% of American's still supporting traditional marriage, why is chic fil a singled out. I would assume that 39% or even more of the companies out there have CEO's that support traditional marriage.

 

[JaxDad]

Dang this thread! I brought a perfectly healthy frozen meal for lunch today, but now I'm seriously considering going out for a Spicy Chicken Deluxe Sandwich, waffle fries, and a large lemonade! Yum!

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

With about 39% of American's still supporting traditional marriage, why is chic fil a singled out. I would assume that 39% or even more of the companies out there have CEO's that support traditional marriage.

I'm only guessing, but maybe because they have been so vocal and active about those beliefs? I really don't know for sure, but that would be my guess based on what I've read.

 

[gwynne]

With about 39% of American's still supporting traditional marriage, why is chic fil a singled out. I would assume that 39% or even more of the companies out there have CEO's that support traditional marriage.

JMO- I think the path of peaceful co-existence is not only decent, it's good for business.
If a fast food company chooses to loudly vocalize opinions on social issues they can, but it may have some negative effects.

 

[JaneBanks]

I just find it funny that some people (I'm not saying this about anybody on this thread, this is just in general) start yelling intolerance when people disagree with Chick Fil A's stance yet they are all gung ho about banning Muslims and others from this country because they have different beliefs. Hypocrisy at its finest.

*****Once again, I'm not saying this about anybody on this thread.*****

 

[Goofy_Disney_Dad]

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

As I said above, I think most people respect the different viewpoints (although I'm probably being generous there). What got CFA in trouble was taking it a step further and donating significant funds to causes that would stop what OTHERS believed in. That's where most of the outrage came from--not just from Mr. Cathy's beliefs, which I agree, he is totally entitled to and, while I disagree with him on that, I get why he feels that way and I am happy to eat his chicken and respect his beliefs. I don't like to hear about people with money (power) influencing others' rights. Now, it seems that CFA has stepped away from doing that, probably in efforts to honor all of their customers, and that's a good thing.

If it were his private money, I think there would have been less uproar. Using CFA money to fund his beliefs is where it upset a lot of people (that I know).

 

[bcla]

If it were his private money, I think there would have been less uproar. Using CFA money to fund his beliefs is where it upset a lot of people (that I know).

It's a more complex issue than that given that CFA is a privately held company. Dan Cathy could just arrange for a larger share of profits be distributed to himself such that he could donate himself. There's probably a tax benefit to corporate making a direct donation.

In any case, he's backed way off his public statements. Often very little good can come from a prominent executive making controversial statements regarding a divisive issue. Publicly traded companies have canned executives if it might hurt the company.

 

[pat fan]

I just find it funny that some people (I'm not saying this about anybody on this thread, this is just in general) start yelling intolerance when people disagree with Chick Fil A's stance yet they are all gung ho about banning Muslims and others from this country because they have different beliefs. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Maybe it's because his personal opinion is what it is, he doesn't bar someone from getting married, or being served a meal, or anything else. That other "opinion" happens to shoot up nightclubs, military bases/recruiting offices, fly planes into buildings, turn canning tools into bombs etc...And I don't believe anyone wants to ban all Muslims, just hold immigration from countries that are terrorist hotbeds. Big difference, to me anyway.

 

[Imzadi]

Hopefully no married gay people took any chicken biscuits.

Gay men cannot donate blood. So the only people standing in that line that Chick-Fil-A was feeding were straight people.

 

[pat fan]

Gay men cannot donate blood. So the only people Chick-Fil-A was feeding were the straight people.

Wow, what's wrong with the lesbians? You'd think they might have stepped up and donated some blood.
Right back at ya. What a ridiculous statement you made.

 

[JaneBanks]

Maybe it's because his personal opinion is what it is, he doesn't bar someone from getting married, or being served a meal, or anything else. That other "opinion" happens to shoot up nightclubs, military bases/recruiting offices, fly planes into buildings, turn canning tools into bombs etc...And I don't believe anyone wants to ban all Muslims, just hold immigration from countries that are terrorist hotbeds. Big difference, to me anyway.

Those personal opinions vote for legislation that prevents people from enjoying the civil liberties granted to others freely. Those personal opinions donated money to "pray the gay away" camps.

And just like most Christians do not agree with those views, the majority of Muslims don't shoot up night clubs, and fly planes in to buildings.

And there are plenty of people out there who want to ban and deport Muslims.