CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[mefordis]

Ok, so tell me of another vaccine that takes genetic material (RNA or DNA) and has that material enter your cells to make proteins that you otherwise wouldn't make. Go ahead, I will wait. That my friends is gene therapy...

Now, again for those who have trouble understanding, this is not necessarily a bad thing. If these truly don't cause any long term side effects in most people then it would be great for our prospects of current viruses/bacteria we don't have vaccines for, future outbreaks and even possibly to help treat or cure other diseases.

And no, they don't change your genetic material (DNA) but they do instruct it to produce proteins that it otherwise wouldn't make. So, I can see why the statement bothers you but again it isn't necessarily a bad thing. We just don't know what we don't know.

That's all I will say on this so feel free to respond but I will just not reply back.

Here is a good video/article that explains the mRNA vaccines very well.

https://www.asgct.org/research/news/november-2020/covid-19-moderna-nih-vaccine

 

[mefordis]

I wouldn't ever say never. The world has gone nuts. JMO

So true. Funny I can dig up posts from people yucking it up calling out speculation as "conspiracy theories", but now that these things are actually being officially proposed, same people are like, "Well thats a very good idea." Full on clown world.

 

[Jonfw2]

So true. Funny I can dig up posts from people yucking it up calling out speculation as "conspiracy theories", but now that these things are actually being officially proposed, same people are like, "Well thats a very good idea." Full on clown world.

Oh, just scroll back through this page to when I suggested even Disney might require some kind of vaccine passport...wow, was I the Dunce at the Dance for that one.

 

[mom2rtk]

This is supposedly what is happening in my county right now in NJ where we have a lot of community spread.....it's teens to early 20s....middle school, high school and college kids (who are home for breaks). My sisters were ecstatic to hear about the Pfizer study.....kids in our family are 13,14, and 15.

Unfortunately this is also going to be the harder group to get high levels of participation in. Your family might be excited to get the younger kids vaccinated, but many will decide their risk isn't high and not get it. More needle phobia, a sense of invincibility, feeling like they are at less risk. The key here will be school requirements, which I support once full authorization is obtained. I think if you can end school because of the disease, a mandate is a no brainer.

 

[mefordis]

Oh, just scroll back through this page to when I suggested even Disney might require some kind of vaccine passport...wow, was I the Dunce at the Dance for that one.

Oh yeah. CT accusations = "I'm triggered and scared! Stop saying those scary words."

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Unfortunately this is also going to be the harder group to get high levels of participation in. Your family might be excited to get the younger kids vaccinated, but many will decide their risk isn't high and not get it. More needle phobia, a sense of invincibility, feeling like they are at less risk. The key here will be school requirements, which I support once full authorization is obtained. I think if you can end school because of the disease, a mandate is a no brainer.

We've been watching my husband's younger sister. She's now 24. For her she's very swayed by who she is around most especially her significant other. Her husband (now ex-husband) wouldn't likely have gotten the vaccine but wouldn't have been too vocal about it. Wouldn't have felt strongly necessarily about it just kinda not important to him.

But her current boyfriend? He's very vocal, very anti-mask, anti-restriction, etc He's not at all interested in the vaccine and so as a byproduct she isn't. Nothing we can really say to change her mind but we all agree if she was with someone who was more about social distancing, mask wearing, and understood how the vaccine works (because yeah he's not really spreading correct information about it) she would have likely gotten it. She doesn't really fall into the feelings of invincibility or that they are less at risk because it's not that she herself came to those conclusions. Unfortunately for almost as long as I have known her (13+ years) she's just easily swayed by the opinions of others and before that was mainly her mom but when she started dating at 16/17 it became her significant others and the friends they shared.

Maybe time will change her viewpoint but at least her mom, her dad, her two siblings, their significant others (myself and other sister-in-law's boyfriend) have at least gotten 1 dose (mother-in-law and step-father-in-law had their 2nd dose today).

 

[dvcgirl67]

Unfortunately this is also going to be the harder group to get high levels of participation in. Your family might be excited to get the younger kids vaccinated, but many will decide their risk isn't high and not get it. More needle phobia, a sense of invincibility, feeling like they are at less risk. The key here will be school requirements, which I support once full authorization is obtained. I think if you can end school because of the disease, a mandate is a no brainer.

I agree...a lot of parents will balk at having their kids vaccinated. I hope at least public schools make it mandatory.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

So true. Funny I can dig up posts from people yucking it up calling out speculation as "conspiracy theories", but now that these things are actually being officially proposed, same people are like, "Well thats a very good idea." Full on clown world.

That’s true in so many aspects of this though. There are so many people who spent the last year screaming about “flatten the fear”, “don’t live in fear” using the death statistics as their validation, who are now terrified of the vaccine which statistically is (currently) safer than catching Covid.

 

[DLgal]

That’s true in so many aspects of this though. There are so many people who spent the last year screaming about “flatten the fear”, “don’t live in fear” using the death statistics as their validation, who are now terrified of the vaccine which statistically is (currently) safer than catching Covid.

 

[AvidDisReader]

The vaccine news just keeps getting better. 150 million with at least one shot, 55 million fully vaccinated. Plus Pfizer has announced that their tests show that their vaccine is still 92% effective after 6 months.

 

[bethbuchall]

That’s true in so many aspects of this though. There are so many people who spent the last year screaming about “flatten the fear”, “don’t live in fear” using the death statistics as their validation, who are now terrified of the vaccine which statistically is (currently) safer than catching Covid.

In the parent Facebook group for my son’s college, the people who are screaming the most about wanting all in-person classes in the Fall are the same people adamant that the vaccine should not be mandated and should remain personal choice. That “personal choice” for them doesn’t include the choice to forego in-person learning.

 

[piglet1979]

Unfortunately this is also going to be the harder group to get high levels of participation in. Your family might be excited to get the younger kids vaccinated, but many will decide their risk isn't high and not get it. More needle phobia, a sense of invincibility, feeling like they are at less risk. The key here will be school requirements, which I support once full authorization is obtained. I think if you can end school because of the disease, a mandate is a no brainer.

I agree with this. My nephew is 21. I reached out to him on Monday to see if he needed help finding an appointment. He responded with I am not going to fight the crowds and I will be fine. He also thinks the school (his college) will be giving it out. My mom and I both agree that the school most likely will not be doing this because none of the colleges in the area are doing them. He hasn't been socially distant this whole time either.

 

[mom2rtk]

I agree with this. My nephew is 21. I reached out to him on Monday to see if he needed help finding an appointment. He responded with I am not going to fight the crowds and I will be fine. He also thinks the school (his college) will be giving it out. My mom and I both agree that the school most likely will not be doing this because none of the colleges in the area are doing them. He hasn't been socially distant this whole time either.

I think once supply catches up you will start to see schools offering vaccine clinics onsite.

 

[PS11]

I agree with this. My nephew is 21. I reached out to him on Monday to see if he needed help finding an appointment. He responded with I am not going to fight the crowds and I will be fine. He also thinks the school (his college) will be giving it out. My mom and I both agree that the school most likely will not be doing this because none of the colleges in the area are doing them. He hasn't been socially distant this whole time either.

You’re in Ohio correct? DeWine announced today they will attempt to vaccinate all college students on campus before leaving for summer break.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...wine-gives-update-vaccine-rollout/7056106002/

 

[bethbuchall]

You’re in Ohio correct? DeWine announced today they will attempt to vaccinate all college students on campus before leaving for summer break.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...wine-gives-update-vaccine-rollout/7056106002/

I wish NY were up to that!

 

[Colleen27]

If dorms were as high a risk as prisons and nursing homes, they probably should have been prioritized for vaccine access early on.

That said, I am 100% supportive of vaccine mandates for college campuses. They require them for many other diseases that haven't shut down the entire system in the past year. But I do understand why some would have hesitation in vaccinating young people without full FDA approval. Hopefully it will come in time for the new school year.

I suspect the main reason they weren't is because so many were closed down or running in such a reduced form that they simply didn't register in the minds of many leaders. Some schools in my state opened in the fall but I don't think any went back after the holidays, and there's no rush to vaccinate kids who are supposed to be sitting home (or in their reduced-capacity dorms) and taking all of their courses online.

Unfortunately this is also going to be the harder group to get high levels of participation in. Your family might be excited to get the younger kids vaccinated, but many will decide their risk isn't high and not get it. More needle phobia, a sense of invincibility, feeling like they are at less risk. The key here will be school requirements, which I support once full authorization is obtained. I think if you can end school because of the disease, a mandate is a no brainer.

And add to this the fact that parents are likely to be more cautious in making decisions for their children than they are for themselves. Our medical history is littered with examples of treatments that turned out to have side effects only years later, and some people may be willing to take that chance for themselves but not for their kids because of the lower risk of serious covid paired with the longer time horizon for effects to develop. I've already had a couple of friends express surprise that I encouraged DD19 to get the shot and am eager to see one approved that DD12 could get. Both women are vaccinated (first shot) themselves but are taking a wait-and-see position with regard to their teen/young adult kids, mostly because of the rumors that the vaccine could impact their future fertility. One has a sister who developed Guillian-Barre Syndrome after a flu vaccine as a young woman, which has made her skeptical of all new vaccines and those that prevent diseases she doesn't see as serious. So she, as a mid-50s smoker, got the vaccine for herself but is against it for her college-age kid and her school-age grandkids.

I agree with this. My nephew is 21. I reached out to him on Monday to see if he needed help finding an appointment. He responded with I am not going to fight the crowds and I will be fine. He also thinks the school (his college) will be giving it out. My mom and I both agree that the school most likely will not be doing this because none of the colleges in the area are doing them. He hasn't been socially distant this whole time either.

I expect a lot of schools will be. DD's school has already communicated with residence life employees that they are hoping to hold a vaccination event during welcome week; they're telling RAs and other dorm staff to be prepared to come back to campus earlier than usual to accommodate a vaccination drive, an enhanced check-in process (proof of vaccination?), and longer move-in windows to space out the crowds.

 

[piglet1979]

I think once supply catches up you will start to see schools offering vaccine clinics onsite.

You’re in Ohio correct? DeWine announced today they will attempt to vaccinate all college students on campus before leaving for summer break.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...wine-gives-update-vaccine-rollout/7056106002/

I did hear that they were going to do this but just later in the day. This will help here to hopefully stop the rising numbers we have. Right now the surge seems to be the early by Detroit and seems to be more of the UK variant. It won't be long before this will be state wide.

I also heard that Cleveland State University will require the vaccine for anyone living on campus.

 

[Jonfw2]

I saw an absolutely fascinating point yesterday on the topic of why deaths are not falling faster. Well, here’s why:

California yesterday reported 179 deaths. Only 14 of them were from anytime in the entire MONTH OF MARCH. The other 93% were from as far back as December.

 

[RamblingMad]

I saw an absolutely fascinating point yesterday on the topic of why deaths are not falling faster. Well, here’s why:

California yesterday reported 179 deaths. Only 14 of them were from anytime in the entire MONTH OF MARCH. The other 93% were from as far back as December.

Reporting has been less than stellar. Best to look at the overall direction, rather than one off days. Right now, I'm not traveling to hot spots.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

 

[Jonfw2]

Reporting has been less than stellar. Best to look at the overall direction, rather than one off days. Right now, I'm not traveling to hot spots.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

I get that. But my point is that the number of deaths being reported now does not reflect people actually dying now.