CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[Colleen27]

If you read the article, it says that kids are often testing PCR negative, as in there is NOT enough detectable virus being shed, even when their blood shows antibodies after the fact (i.e. after being in the same home with infected family members). So, they are being exposed to the virus and their immune system is fighting it off BEFORE it replicates to the point of viral shedding. In these cases, they don't infect anyone else.

Which actually makes a lot of sense since the early struggles with accurate testing showed us that there is at least some potential for cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses. The fact that kids get more colds and other routine illnesses than adults and therefore have a wider variety of antibodies to various things floating around their little bodies could very well have a slight protective effect. Hopefully that will help to bridge the gap between adult vaccination/declining cases and the eventual approval of a vaccine for kids.

 

[Kamy04]

I am hoping and praying teachers can get it soon. I hope they don’t put a stipulation like K-12 or something.

I teach Early Intervention and I sit in a room of unmasked 3yo kiddos all day (due to disabilities). Can’t distance. I can’t get this vaccine fast enough. It’s so stressful to work when you feel like it’s just a matter of time and are relying on other people (parents) to make good decisions to keep you safe. Especially when it’s a subset of kids who really rely on school so parents are much less apt to keep their kids home.

 

[Kamy04]

We have also had very young (under age 1 and under age 2) have confirmed Covid in our school and give it to teachers. No one over age 2 (yet). Kinda interesting when you consider that MMR thread about maybe kids with recent MMR being less suspectible or whatever (first MMR is around 18 months, I believe).

 

[DLgal]

I am hoping and praying teachers can get it soon. I hope they don’t put a stipulation like K-12 or something.

I teach Early Intervention and I sit in a room of unmasked 3yo kiddos all day (due to disabilities). Can’t distance. I can’t get this vaccine fast enough. It’s so stressful to work when you feel like it’s just a matter of time and are relying on other people (parents) to make good decisions to keep you safe. Especially when it’s a subset of kids who really rely on school so parents are much less apt to keep their kids home.

I'm one of those parents. Trust me, we are also worried sick about this virus and how it affects kids, especially the vulnerable ones with disabilities. I have kept my son home from school for 7 days so far, out of an extreme abundance of caution, because he had some nonspecific symptoms (not covid) but I was thinking about all the other kids in his class that cannot wear masks. Special needs parents are a paranoid and overprotective bunch, in general. Try not to worry too much.

 

[DLgal]

We could debate all day over what should have happened - but we've got what we've got now which is why I won't. It's just too emotional of a subject. How do you balance "teachers could get sick" with "kids are losing a year of education"? It doesn't matter if it was necessary - what's done is done, that's the route we went. Going forward, if it were up to me, health care workers get vaccinated next week (follow up 3 weeks later), TEACHERS are next. Schools open as soon as teachers get their shots - NO LATER than end of January. The surge should not matter if teachers are vaccinated and kids don't get sick. It's not up to me though, and "TEACHERS are next" are not words I have been hearing.

Frankly, teachers deserve to be next after front line healthcare providers. I totally agree with you there. Kids NEED to go back to school and if our government isn't going to provide funding so schools can beef up safety protocols, this is the least they could do.

 

[KayKayJS]

And at my child’s daycare the teachers spread it to each other and it appears no children got it.

Are you sure the teacher didn’t contract it from a different source and only take a test because of the toddler exposure? With the virus being so prevalent it’s hard to contact trace.

There's no way to 100% know - for any spread. I can tell you we haven't had one positive until this. Then the teacher tested positive 7 days later. I 100% believe the transmission occured at the school. But if you don't believe that - I can't change your mind. I just don't want people to be complacent. I thought for sure we wouldn't see it spread from the toddler.

As far as your situation, the kids totally could have gottten it but been asymptomatic so they were never tested. This child was asymptomatic but tested positive.

 

[KayKayJS]

We have also had very young (under age 1 and under age 2) have confirmed Covid in our school and give it to teachers. No one over age 2 (yet). Kinda interesting when you consider that MMR thread about maybe kids with recent MMR being less suspectible or whatever (first MMR is around 18 months, I believe).

Interesting - the case I was discussing earlier is under age 2.

 

[Jonfw2]

FDA is currently setting the youngest age which will be eligible to receive the Pfizer vax. Could be as low as 16.

 

[Jonfw2]

And now they’re voting...

 

[jlwhitney]

We have also had very young (under age 1 and under age 2) have confirmed Covid in our school and give it to teachers. No one over age 2 (yet). Kinda interesting when you consider that MMR thread about maybe kids with recent MMR being less suspectible or whatever (first MMR is around 18 months, I believe).

12 months is when they get mmr but this year a lot of kids have missed scheduled vaccines due to offices being closed or parents not wanting to mess with the rules or fears .

 

[lifesavacation]

And now they’re voting...

Sounds like a handful are concerned about the age range starting at 16.

 

[Jonfw2]

FDA advisory committee votes:

Based on the totality of scientific evidence available, do the benefits of the Pfizer-BioNTech #covid19 vaccine outweigh its risks for use in individuals 16 and older?

YES: 17
NO: 4
ABSTAIN: 1

 

[Jonfw2]

And the advisory committee voted AGAINST the placebo group getting the real vaccine.

 

[Farro]

FDA advisory committee votes:

Based on the totality of scientific evidence available, do the benefits of the Pfizer-BioNTech #covid19 vaccine outweigh its risks for use in individuals 16 and older?

YES: 17
NO: 4
ABSTAIN: 1

And the advisory committee voted AGAINST the placebo group getting the real vaccine.

Is this good, bad, expected, unexpected?

 

[Jonfw2]

Is this good, bad, expected, unexpected?

It was expected they would let the placebo group get the vaccine.

 

[Buzz Rules]

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-...e_4380645_2_heads_hero_live_hero_hed#74660814

 

[DLgal]

Hmm...wonder why the 4 "no" votes?

 

[Jonfw2]

Hmm...wonder why the 4 "no" votes?

Because the final vote was to make the age 16.

 

[DLgal]

Because the final vote was to make the age 16.

Ah, so that was the point of concern then? That makes sense.

That isn't a huge issue, I don't think. I have a feeling by the time kids are eligible for vaccination, there will be several options and perhaps they will have the data from the trials involving kids by then.

 

[Pyotr]

There's no way to 100% know - for any spread. I can tell you we haven't had one positive until this. Then the teacher tested positive 7 days later. I 100% believe the transmission occured at the school. But if you don't believe that - I can't change your mind. I just don't want people to be complacent. I thought for sure we wouldn't see it spread from the toddler.

As far as your situation, the kids totally could have gottten it but been asymptomatic so they were never tested. This child was asymptomatic but tested positive.

We were all required to have our kids tested and quarantine to be allowed back in the school.