Casey Anthony NOT GUILTY & Sentencing Thread 6

[Lisa loves Pooh]

But, for many who are upset with the Jurors on this and it makes me quite ill actually. Especially now the names they are being called etc. is terrible.

However, I said this to many of my friends, what if it was your husband or your wife or someone you knew that was on trial. Wouldn't you want them to have a FAIR trail and be innocent until proven guilty?

I understand the emotion, I do, but maybe it was an accident? She panicked? Someone else her father, her boyfriend at the time told her we'll do something else. There is much more to this story than we may ever know.

What if that family member had their attorney blame YOU in the court of law. That you did horrible things to them and helped cover up an accident.

Only, you Are completely innocent.

Is their fair trial to be at all costs including YOUR constitutional rights of innocent until proven guilty.

George was placed on trial and had his constitutional rights violated with no way to hold that attorney responsible.

The jury presumed him guilty without a shred of evidence (an adulterer does not a child molester make) and THAT was the way to Casey's freedom.


No--I don't want my constitutional rights violated and vicious lies used to free a family member. That isn't fair at all.

 

[FredinFL]

Any mother who doesn't report her child missing is some kind of shady lowlife with something to hide. Out partying while your child is missing? Out partying while you know your little one is wrapped in a plastic bag and buried a few houses away in the dirt?

Oh, she's guilty alright. Hopefully someone will take care of her one night when she's out ******* around at the clubs.

 

[hellokitty86]

Okay, I am going to play Devil's Advocate here.... For those that say that the EVIDENCE was there. Tell me what it was then?


Where was the 100% proof A) that it was murder and B) That Casey did it?


Tell me what it was because many people keep saying it was right there, how could they not have convicted here.

Then if everyone else FEELS that she was guilty, what did the Jurors miss.

I am not being funny or sarcastic in any way I am being VERY VERY serious right now.
I would just like an answer.

Look at the first post at all the links and see for yourself...it lists all the evidence and then some.

I have never wished Casey dead, and I did not support the death penalty in this case.

 

[Aisling]

If Casey is a sociopath (she's being compared to Joran van der Sloot), doesn't that means she's incapable of of "normal" feelings? Maybe she couldn't love her child, or love anyone. Wouldn't that mean she's mentally ill? I don't know if being a sociopath is a mental illness or a character trait; I'm just throwing this out there for opinions.

 

[JaneBanks]

Look at the first post at all the links and see for yourself...it lets all the evidence and then some.

I have never wished Casey dead, and I did not support the death penalty in this case.

This is also another great resource http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_directory_index.htm

 

[chris1gill]

Juror #3 felt the evidence was too circumstantial and just couldn't be certain Casey killed Caylee on purpose. She mentioned multiple times that she needed more evidence.

Yet, she was certain that George was involved! How did she make that leap? There wasn't a single stitch of evidence to support that theory yet juror #3 was convinced George was somehow involved. Glad she can sleep at night. I guess there isn't much floating around in her head to keep her up at night.

But did juror # 3 feel that the state proved Casey killed Caylee at all? Because the way you just said that makes it sound like Casey did not kill Caylee on purpose but was involved with her death. There was a lesser charge that could have included that scenario, correct me if I am wrong.

Okay, I am going to play Devil's Advocate here.... For those that say that the EVIDENCE was there. Tell me what it was then?


Where was the 100% proof A) that it was murder and B) That Casey did it?


Tell me what it was because many people keep saying it was right there, how could they not have convicted here.

Then if everyone else FEELS that she was guilty, what did the Jurors miss.

I am not being funny or sarcastic in any way I am being VERY VERY serious right now.
I would just like an answer.

We've spent 6 weeks discussing this over 5 threads. If you need it in a paragraph I'm sorry, go back over the posts.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

There was plenty of circumstantial evidence which the Supreme Court Rules is sufficient as long as there isn't reasonable doubt.

But the image of Casey doing things to her dad was all the proof the jurors needed that daddy was involved. But that was in an opening statement...not evidence and deemed by the judge as not sufficiently proven.

So remove George--where is the REASONABLE doubt?

Okay, I am going to play Devil's Advocate
here.... For those that say that the EVIDENCE was there. Tell me what it was then?


Where was the 100% proof A) that it was murder and B) That Casey did it?


Tell me what it was because many people keep saying it was right there, how could they not have convicted here.

Then if everyone else FEELS that she was guilty, what did the Jurors miss.

I am not being funny or sarcastic in any way I am being VERY VERY serious right now.
I would just like an answer.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Judge Perry: Have you heeded and abided by all of my previous admonitions?

Jurors: Yes, Your Honor.

Judge Perry: Very good.

Juror #3: (whispering) Whah's a preeeveeeus ahdminishun?

Juror#4: I don't have any idea. You know how I hate to judge things, so I can't even BEGIN to say what it is and I think it's best if I just ignore it completely.

Juror #3: Yeah.....You're smart.

OMG, this is hysterical. I'm telling you...you need to hook up with LisaR and write a book.

Here is the thing, every single person who is upset about the verdict doesn't get it, because they are allowing their emotions to flow.

Here's the thing. DO NOT tell me how or why *I* feel about anything, ok? Or what *I* "get". If you feel differently about the verdict, have at it, and express your feelings and why or why not YOU feel that way. Again, as with some other people who have posted on these threads...it's all in the delivery.

 

[bumcat]

Juror #3 felt the evidence was too circumstantial and just couldn't be certain Casey killed Caylee on purpose. She mentioned multiple times that she needed more evidence.

Yet, she was certain that George was involved! How did she make that leap? There wasn't a single stitch of evidence to support that theory yet juror #3 was convinced George was somehow involved. Glad she can sleep at night. I guess there isn't much floating around in her head to keep her up at night.

and if she had doubts, you would think she would want to go over all the evidence, but none of them cared enough to ask for documents etc. while in the room deliberating.

juror #6 said he will talk now if compensated.

 

[Mickeyistheman]

Look at the first post at all the links and see for yourself...it lists all the evidence and then some.

I have never wished Casey dead, and I did not support the death penalty in this case.

I am asking right now,

It's should be 2 FACTS that were proven by the Prosecution that Casey was guilty.

If everyone KNOWS that she was, why can't anyone give me the facts that these Jurors missed?

 

[Samba]

http://blog.imperfectparent.com/201...eed-professional-jurors-and-not-idiot-jurors/


Found this interesting. Some swear words.

Good article. I am on that page with the writer. Everyday I become more and more of an elitist. Maybe we need a jury test.

Still reeling from getting OJ'd again.

 

[JimFitz]

Whats sad is that if Casey got rid of Caylee in the womb this would be no issue. No outrage for that? Late term where the baby can feel pain.


Our culture is nuts.

 

[CurlyGirl]

How about the police.....It took them over 6 months to find the remains just a few homes away from the Anthony's?????? If I was on that Jury and this is what I have said from the beginning it all didn't mesh well. There wasn't a motive, no murder weapon either. They don't even know HOW she was killed, so how can you convict without all the facts and evidence.

Did you watch any of this trial? If you did, you'd know that they could not determineHOW she was killed. They couldn't determine if she died by suffocation due to duct tape over her mouth, drug overdose, drowning (accidental or otherwise), etc. because all that were left were skeletal remains. Kind of hard to determine suffocation, drug overdose, and drowning based on skeletal remains.

How did it take them six months? For the longest time, they were looking for a missing child who was alive, not a dead child. The area Caylee was dumped in was covered in water after a tropical storm. Info. from Kronk that he thought he saw a human skull went ignored.

No motive? How about a mom who wanted to live a Bella Vita without the baggage of a child? Especially one that was starting to talk and would tell Grandma and Grandpa that there was no nanny? That she stayed overnight at some random guy's house? That mommy left her in the car while she went into Tony's house? How about her boyfriend didn't want Caylee staying overnight? Kind of puts a damper on her social life, you know?

 

[MyManGoofy!]

#2 speaks
http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/article1179177.ece

The more I hear from the jurors/alternate the more it makes me believe that they did NOT understand their instructions and did not know that murder 1 wasn't their only option.

But, for many who are upset with the Jurors on this and it makes me quite ill actually. Especially now the names they are being called etc. is terrible.

However, I said this to many of my friends, what if it was your husband or your wife or someone you knew that was on trial. Wouldn't you want them to have a FAIR trail and be innocent until proven guilty?

I understand the emotion, I do, but maybe it was an accident? She panicked? Someone else her father, her boyfriend at the time told her we'll do something else. There is much more to this story than we may ever know.

I would want any jury to be competent and do the job they promised to do.

Based on some of your statements, I do not believe that you watched the entire trial. There was so much more than a few photos and a tattoo. But even so, I will again repeat that the standard is reasonable doubt not possible doubt. I could think it was possible that there was some sort of accident (not punishable by law) that they chose to cover up and which made it look like a murder (punishable by law). But is that REASONABLE? Why would anyone ever do that? So even though there is a chance that it went down this way does not mean it is the most reasonable explanation.

Jurors are instructed this in the state of Florida:
A reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary or forced doubt. Such a doubt must not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. On the other hand, if, after carefully considering, comparing and weighing all the evidence, there is not an abiding conviction of guilt, or, if, having a conviction, it is one which is not stable but one which wavers and vacillates, then the charge is not proved beyond every reasonable doubt and you must find the defendant not guilty because the doubt is reasonable.

and also:
It is to the evidence introduced in this trial, and to it alone, that you are to look for that proof.

It is my opinion that this jury made their verdict on possible and speculative doubt. Not only that but they used information from the opening and closing arguments which is NOT evidence and should not be used as such.

 

[mrsksomeday]

Mare, you are my hero!!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

#2 speaks
http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/article1179177.ece

They know she did it...What evidence did they seek to know beyond a reasonable doubt that is NOT contrary to the requirements of law.

 

[hellokitty86]

Mare, you are my hero!!

 

[Brit17]

Seems to me ABC paid her... why watch these shows paying these jurors?

I know, I know - I really only came upon the show by accident because I was channel surfing - but I admit, I got sucked into watching it ... I'll try to do better tomorrow ...

 

[Dr.Girlfriend]

This just enrages me.

Many are outraged that Case Anthony may go free at her sentencing today. Juror No. 2 is no different.

"I just swear to God ...," he said, his voice falling silent, overcome by tears. "I wish we had more evidence to put her away.

"I truly do ..."

THERE WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PUT HER AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Aisling]

I am asking right now,

It's should be 2 FACTS that were proven by the Prosecution that Casey was guilty.

If everyone KNOWS that she was, why can't anyone give me the facts that these Jurors missed?

I think this is a reasonable question.

The prosecution didn't convince me with what evidence they had that Casey premeditated killing her child or that she killed her Caylee at all. In my heart I feel she did it, but if I were a juror I can't go by what my heart says.