Cases rising or dropping by you?

[disneypharm]

South Dakota 54.7%

This is terrible. I am so tired of people who still try to downplay the effect this virus has had in our country. Back in August, I remember watching the governor of SD talking about Sturgis and how little the virus had affected their state. Even reading posts here in Disboard saying the same thing. Well all those people went to their own states and took the virus with them. Look now where they are, 54.7% positivity rate! From someone who has lost family members from Covid-19, I am just upset to see how things have been handled. The other day, I saw 10 individuals (family members or friends) entering Sam's club together without masks. I could see the employees being worried but didn't want to confront them. I am glad that the store was big enough to stay away from them but extremely frustrating!
For God's sake, wear a mask!! Maybe we have to talk in simple words - Wear a mask --- Less Covid --- Better Economy. Not wear a mask -- More Covid -- Bad Economy!!

 

[HeatherC]

Sounds like that's a big issue. I know a lot of people early on assumed the kids would bring it to the teachers but community spread could mean the teachers get it from the community (as has been said for at least some of the cases in my county at schools) and spread it amongst each other. Are the teachers allowed unmasked (like break room/teacher's room/classrooms) with each other? Are they trying to use hand sanitizer (assuming they have some) before touching hands with each other (if that's occurring). Could the teachers be spreading it to the kids?

Kids could also be asymptomatic. We would never know because they aren’t being tested if they appear healthy.

 

[Dan Murphy]

US--152,391 new cases

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Kids could also be asymptomatic. We would never know because they aren’t being tested if they appear healthy.

Of course kids could be asymptomatic that goes without saying. As far as not being tested if they appear healthy well that varies from place to place. When school was starting up in my county they reallocated 20% (or 25% can't remember) just for the school aged kids. Even right now kids aged 5-15 in my county can get free appointment based testing (symptoms or no symptoms) through the county though it is advised to check with your doctor first. At the state level my governor is putting schools into the equation for targeted testing.

I'm just wondering seeing a pattern because the group of teachers (as described by the PP) in close quarters are testing positive. Everyone seems to think "oh gosh it's the kids" I suppose my health department is more willing to admit teachers have lives outside of the classroom. It could be the kids within the classroom OR it could be a teacher who gets it from the community who then brings it to school who then passes it to other teachers who are in close quarters with them.

 

[RamblingMad]

US--152,391 new cases

How many days before we break 200k a day?

 

[HeatherC]

Of course kids could be asymptomatic that goes without saying. As far as not being tested if they appear healthy well that varies from place to place. When school was starting up in my county they reallocated 20% (or 25% can't remember) just for the school aged kids. Even right now kids aged 5-15 in my county can get free appointment based testing (symptoms or no symptoms) through the county though it is advised to check with your doctor first. At the state level my governor is putting schools into the equation for targeted testing.

I'm just wondering seeing a pattern because the group of teachers (as described by the PP) in close quarters are testing positive. Everyone seems to think "oh gosh it's the kids" I suppose my health department is more willing to admit teachers have lives outside of the classroom. It could be the kids within the classroom OR it could be a teacher who gets it from the community who then brings it to school who then passes it to other teachers who are in close quarters with them.

And I’m just wondering if the kids are actually playing more into the case numbers than we know. Totally possible. And I would bet most districts are NOT testing kids. Colleges are different of course. But even free testing won’t make most parents have their kids tested.

And it very well could be the teachers from the community as you said. I guess the point is this thing is multiplying so fast that we will probably never know. We just need it to go away!

 

[OHmomof2]

Current cases in Ohio...

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

And I’m just wondering if the kids are actually playing more into the case numbers than we know.

Yes but I already covered that and it already had been covered. I was giving another viewpoint.

And I would bet most districts are NOT testing kids.

Am I not allowed to offer information about my area without the assumption being made I'm unaware of what other areas are doing? I'm sure many of them don't have the resources. I'm positive that many districts in my state are unable to do it for pure lack of funds. I do remember when my state and area got nadda for testing. It can easily get that way again and part of the testing kits in the past were private businesses purchasing them.

Me sharing what my area was doing was in response to this:

We would never know because they aren’t being tested if they appear healthy.

Because in my area in fact they are testing even if they appear healthy.

But even free testing won’t make most parents have their kids tested.

You can't make them do it, sure. But that is different than you saying we never test them if they appear healthy. At least when school was starting here the county health department made a big point of telling people about the reallocation because the point was to catch asymptomatic carriers in the beginning (like colleges were trying to do). But again just saying what my area was like.

And it very well could be the teachers from the community as you said. I guess the point is this thing is multiplying so fast that we will probably never know.

I'm not trying to be rude here I'm just not sure why me offering a different viewpoint means you had to quote me with a response of what I had already made a point to say. We know many people think kids are the point of transmission. I was saying they aren't the only one possible.

I think I'm just going to move on from this particular discussion so we don't end up going back and forth (though no offense meant)

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

161,542 today.
40 states over 1,000 A record.
27 states over 2000 A record.
17 states over 3000
14 states over 4,000
12 states over 5,000.

It's way out of control.

 

[dvcgirl67]

How many days before we break 200k a day?

From what I’ve read.... it’s possible by next weekend.

 

[godisney14]

161,542 today.
40 states over 1,000 A record.
27 states over 2000 A record.
17 states over 3000
14 states over 4,000
12 states over 5,000.

It's way out of control.

We are past the point of this surge that new cases per day metric is less informative than daily hospitalizations. We’re already more than 3x daily new cases (yes 3X) than the high point earlier this year when we thought we were going to be in trouble. Hospitalizations just broke the previous record and will only be increasing in the coming days, weeks and months.

 

[HeatherC]

Yes but I already covered that and it already had been covered. I was giving another viewpoint.
Am I not allowed to offer information about my area without the assumption being made I'm unaware of what other areas are doing? I'm sure many of them don't have the resources. I'm positive that many districts in my state are unable to do it for pure lack of funds. I do remember when my state and area got nadda for testing. It can easily get that way again and part of the testing kits in the past were private businesses purchasing them.

Me sharing what my area was doing was in response to this:


Because in my area in fact they are testing even if they appear healthy.



You can't make them do it, sure. But that is different than you saying we never test them if they appear healthy. At least when school was starting here the county health department made a big point of telling people about the reallocation because the point was to catch asymptomatic carriers in the beginning (like colleges were trying to do). But again just saying what my area was like.

I'm not trying to be rude here I'm just not sure why me offering a different viewpoint means you had to quote me with a response of what I had already made a point to say. We know many people think kids are the point of transmission. I was saying they aren't the only one possible.

I think I'm just going to move on from this particular discussion so we don't end up going back and forth (though no offense meant)

Oh my goodness. I was not disagreeing with you at all. I was just “discussing” the topic. Sorry if it came across that way. Part of a discussion board is the back and forth on a topic. That is all. I’m sorry if you thought it was personal. It really wasn’t.

 

[piglet1979]

Ohio had 7101 cases yesterday. Hospitals in my area are starting to make changes. The Cleveland Clinic is now postponing nonessential surgical cases that require an inpatient hospital stay at most Cleveland Clinic Ohio hospitals. Others are limiting how many people can come in. A person in labor is only allowed 1 support person with them. The same is true for any surgeries. University Hospitals has had this for awhile. My daughter had surgery in October and only one of us were allowed to be with her.

We are lucky that we do have tons of hospitals in our area but they are starting to have staffing issues from staff getting sick.

 

[gotomu212]

We are past the point of this surge that new cases per day metric is less informative than daily hospitalizations. We’re already more than 3x daily new cases (yes 3X) than the high point earlier this year when we thought we were going to be in trouble. Hospitalizations just broke the previous record and will only be increasing in the coming days, weeks and months.

I agree, and what’s been so hard for laymen to grasp is the time delays with this virus. When cases started spiking last month, I heard over and over but hospital rates are lower so this time is different. I kept thinking just wait 2-4 weeks and you’re going to see hospitalization spike. Now I’m hearing, hospitalization is up but death rate is still relatively low; again very sadly wait a few weeks.

Once this is exponential, it’s like a rocket. It takes weeks and weeks to get the cases, hospitalizations, and death to come back down once it spikes. I’m very worried that I’m hearing similar data analysis that I heard late March/April when the time lag was tripping people up. (And I mean “man on the street” conversations, scientists and doctors get it and that’s why they are banging on the desks).

 

[RamblingMad]

I agree, and what’s been so hard for laymen to grasp is the time delays with this virus. When cases started spiking last month, I heard over and over but hospital rates are lower so this time is different. I kept thinking just wait 2-4 weeks and you’re going to see hospitalization spike. Now I’m hearing, hospitalization is up but death rate is still relatively low; again very sadly wait a few weeks.

Once this is exponential, it’s like a rocket. It takes weeks and weeks to get the cases, hospitalizations, and death to come back down once it spikes. I’m very worried that I’m hearing similar data analysis that I heard late March/April when the time lag was tripping people up. (And I mean “man on the street” conversations, scientists and doctors get it and that’s why they are banging on the desks).

One of my friends that is an essential worker tested positive along with his whole family yesterday. It's going to be a bit before I find out if anyone in his family goes to the hospital. There is definitely a lag.

 

[NFLDERS]

Latest here in Niagara, Ontariohttps://www.iheartradio.ca/610cktb/news/going-out-for-dinner-in-niagara-new-rules-in-place-will-limit-who-you-are-sitting-with-1.13940126

Restrictions of family and caregivers only at dining room tables.
I'm not getting one restaurant owners balk? He said he will have to close.

 

[dvcgirl67]

One of my friends that is an essential worker tested positive along with his whole family yesterday. It's going to be a bit before I find out if anyone in his family goes to the hospital. There is definitely a lag.

This is definitely going to be the phase of the pandemic when most Americans are going to know someone who gets the virus. I had some family and acquaintances get it back in the spring. Haven't heard of anyone since. But our local news has a couple of convenience stores closing because employees tested positive. Our primary and middle schools went remote today because there are multiple kids who have tested positive.

I'm feeling like I need to do a big grocery store run, early when there are few people, and really decrease errands if I can.

 

[Dan Murphy]

County is advising 30 day stay-at-home.

Huge increase today for Illinois, 15,415. 13.2%

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20...19-cases-top-15000?utm_content=article column

 

[RamblingMad]

County is advising 30 day stay-at-home.

Huge increase today for Illinois, 15,415. 13.2%

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20...19-cases-top-15000?utm_content=article column

Yep. It's really bad in Chicago right now. My friend I mentioned earlier lives there.

 

[aprilchem]

How many days before we break 200k a day?

My guess is next week at some point? It was 166k yesterday...

This is definitely going to be the phase of the pandemic when most Americans are going to know someone who gets the virus.

I'm feeling like I need to do a big grocery store run, early when there are few people, and really decrease errands if I can.

I agree. Just in the last week we've had two students in my department (college) test positive and one was hosptalized and has already withdrawn for the semester. A faculty member was on her way to be tested and missed our dept meeting yesterday, and my department chair's mother is in ICU with COVID.

We decided a couple of days ago that our family is going to stop going to the grocery store in person and go back to all curbside for a while. It's getting worse very, very quickly, and I think there will be a huge spike after Thanksgiving, since so many seem unwilling to change their plans.